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Old 10-12-2015, 08:03
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i really had to chuckle when they health bar team was conferring after the first pitch and gary said they didn't like the name, the packaging or the product. so not alot going for it then.

edit : really didn't understand brett's decision to bring richard back to the boardroom

he defended richard previously in the discussion and from what we saw the major flaw in their product was the oilyness of the vegetables which richard had nothing to do with
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:41
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Brett....Richards's faithful sheepdog.....

Brett leapt in front of the poacher's smoking shotgun and took the full blast from the shotgun cartridge meant for his master. What a loyal servant
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:53
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Apologies if it's already been discussed in this thread, but I saw no reference to the manufacturing costs, selling price or profit margins in this task - that's normally something LS picks up on regularly.

What was the reason for that? Was it just out of scope for this particular task? Or the fact that as neither team made any sales, it became irrelevant to what the actual product cost to produce and so any mention of costs/prices were completely edited out of the programme?
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:58
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edit : really didn't understand brett's decision to bring richard back to the boardroom
LS made it quite clear that he thought Richard's unilateral decision to leave "raw" off the packaging was a major part of the task failure, and Brett's obviously watched the programme enough to know that when LS gives you that lead, you should follow it, or risk being fired for bringing the wrong people back into the boardroom... as it happened in this case, he was fired anyway, but I think it was the best decision in the circumstances...
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:04
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Apologies if it's already been discussed in this thread, but I saw no reference to the manufacturing costs, selling price or profit margins in this task - that's normally something LS picks up on regularly.

What was the reason for that? Was it just out of scope for this particular task? Or the fact that as neither team made any sales, it became irrelevant to what the actual product cost to produce and so any mention of costs/prices were completely edited out of the programme?
I'd imagine they were given price limits to work to, but it was primarily a product development / marketing / salesmanship exercise, so penny-by-penny costings would've been a bit of a red herring...

I was actually surprised that both teams were allowed to create such fundamentally flawed products though - as we often say here, they're supposedly being taken on for their business plans and general business acumen & performance, and not their one-off ability to cook, or create a dance class or whatever, so I'd always taken it for granted that the professionals & expert helpers were in a position to say, "no, don't add too much oil" or "you'll need a binding agent" or any input to ensure they'd have a viable product to demonstrate next day...
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:04
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LS made it quite clear that he thought Richard's unilateral decision to leave "raw" off the packaging was a major part of the task failure, and Brett's obviously watched the programme enough to know that when LS gives you that lead, you should follow it, or risk being fired for bringing the wrong people back into the boardroom... as it happened in this case, he was fired anyway, but I think it was the best decision in the circumstances...
maybe so but i still think the lack of sales was down to the level of oil in the snacks and how off-putting that was to the reps from the retailers

having said that making vegetable crisps and judging how much oil to add shouldn't really be a skill that is overly important for any of the contestants
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:13
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At least they didnt make up "Fake" sales like they usually do!
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:15
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Those snacks looked disgusting. Too bad the double firing quota was used up because I could totally see Brett and Gary go at the same time.
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:39
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If as people are saying LS prompted Brett to bring Richard back into the boardroom instead of Vana why would he have done that if Richard wasn't going to be fired anyway? I would have taken Vana back in for her overkill with the oil.
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:04
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Are these the worst group of candidates the Apprentice has ever had? Every one of them seems useless.

I did find myself feeling a little sorry for Charlene, strangely enough. She was left on her own in the kitchen (her choice admittedly), where she appeared to be going slowly crazy. But she managed to stay upbeat, despite almost poisoning Karren.

I don't think Brett should have been fired. It should have been Vana for the excess olive oil or Richard because he messed up the packaging even though he's supposedly an expert in design.

I keep seeing people comment that the tasks are impossible, that the candidates aren't experts in whatever the task's field is. But isn't that the point - throw them in at the deep end every week and see who drowns,
The candidates are supposed to be able to manage their team and use the skills of the available experts (like this weeks health food lady, the chefs and the graphic designers) to research, create, market and pitch a product. Between them they claim to be experts in those fields yet this week they messed up every aspect of that. It's true that this week none of them knew anything about cooking, but they shouldn't have needed to if they'd listened to the experts that were available to them. There was even mention on YF of there being a recipe available, which Vana ignored when adding every ounce of olive oil she could find. It shouldn't matter if you've never created or even eaten a healthy snack in your life, if you're supposed to be a marketing expert you find out what the USP of the product is and make sure it's on the packaging - at the very least you'd make sure to mention it in the pitch.
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:39
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I would have tried for a hard sell and made a cricket snack maybe covered in Yogurt or in dark chocolate and maybe a natural version
And I would have focused on the high protein, low calories part of it
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:45
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I would have tried for a hard sell and made a cricket snack maybe covered in Yogurt or in dark chocolate
lol.. I guess that's why you're watching rather than competing.
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:51
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Are these the worst group of candidates the Apprentice has ever had? Every one of them seems useless.
Yes, they are. If I'd been Lord Sugar I would have fired the whole bloody lot of them! Absolutely useless! None of them are worth the £250,000 investment.
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Old 11-12-2015, 15:08
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Did you get them from Mr Simms? That's a load of cola bottles

I love jellies so got some packets of sugar free years ago, ate most of them in one go, got stomach cramp and had to lower myself to the floor, and crawled to the bog that way! Horrendous! Wouldn't touch them with a barge pole now.
So was that you who wrote the hilarious review on Amazon then?...

This team are channelling Gus Hedges..
My God, now THATS a name I haven't heard in a long time. I think I'll have to pay a visit to the offices of Globelink News now...

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Old 11-12-2015, 15:24
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Are these the worst group of candidates the Apprentice has ever had? Every one of them seems useless.

I did find myself feeling a little sorry for Charlene, strangely enough. She was left on her own in the kitchen (her choice admittedly), where she appeared to be going slowly crazy. But she managed to stay upbeat, despite almost poisoning Karren.

I don't think Brett should have been fired. It should have been Vana for the excess olive oil or Richard because he messed up the packaging even though he's supposedly an expert in design.
You feel sorry for Charleine?! Seriously?

Charleine was absolutely f**king useless and deserved to be fired. Her management of this task was woeful and was the main reason why her team failed. She had no idea what ingredients she'd put in, her direction to her team was absolutely appalling and that's why they ended up with a confused, ridiculous product that they couldn't pitch which had felt tip pen all over it. It was the most amateurish thing I've ever seen. I could do better in an hour on Adobe Photoshop or GIMP and I'm not a graphic designer.

Whilst Richard may have omitted a couple of words, his snack design was miles better than the other team's. The look and feel of the product was a million times more professional and it looked like it could be sold in a shop. Rejuvenate on the other hand, was a f**king embarrassment.

Sugar was just being an a**e to Richard and had no real constructive criticism apart from calling him 'Tricky Dicky'.

Brett knew that if Vana had been such a stupid idiot with all that oil, they'd have won the task. The failure was entirely hers. But she still wasn't nearly as terrible as Charleine!
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