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Old 10-12-2015, 10:32
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Tricky dickie should have being fired on that team and Super Mario plumber fired from the other team.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:37
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I think it was wise of LS to not let the cock ups in the kitchen be a firing cause in the task. It's not really a great chef he's after.
Exactly, though having said that who was it got fired recently for basically making a mess of measuring in that preposterous builders task. Seems Lord Sugs is looking for a handyman/chef this year.
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:21
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^^Hmm No one?

It was mentioned again when David was fired, but that's not uncommon lots of mistakes are brought up when someone is fired.

But I take your point, I've said on numerous posts it's not the "Great British Bake Off"
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:28
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Its interesting that none of the suppliers bought into the products. I am sure there has been similar near disasters which the suppliers have agreed that with some tweaking could be a very good product. After all in real life it would take Tesco's a year to produce their own brand based on an established brand - let alone. Concessions should have been made for the two day turn around. Yes I believe this was a 'setup' for the desired results in the board room. 'Setup' in that the suppliers were told not to make a purchase if they were not happy with the actual product in front of them, when in reality it takes up to a year to produce & market test a product. Also I thought if Tescos' et al, did agree to purchase, it would mean that they could not run and claim product exclusivity when they copied and perfected the idea (although I can't believe that this idea is new to them).!
Perhaps but also the market might have changed. Walk round any large supermarket and you see shelves crowded with dozens of brands and types of crisps and health bars. A few years ago, vegetable crisps were novel, which might have been enogh to land an order; now they are commonplace.
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:38
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But I think their USP was the fact they weren't fried, I think the ones you see on shelves are. That was Richards only real mistake not showing that they weren't fried.
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:48
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yes Vana was responsible for the oily mess otherwise her team would have won
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Old 10-12-2015, 14:18
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Exactly, though having said that who was it got fired recently for basically making a mess of measuring in that preposterous builders task. Seems Lord Sugs is looking for a handyman/chef this year.
^^Hmm No one?

It was mentioned again when David was fired, but that's not uncommon lots of mistakes are brought up when someone is fired.

But I take your point, I've said on numerous posts it's not the "Great British Bake Off"
Yes it makes a mockery of the supposed business side of the show when they bang on about these side issues. If someone wants to start a cottage industry business maybe some practical skills will be relevant, although they would be very specific. If it is about more ambitious business plans it is about managing people, understanding USPs, risk/reward, supply and demand, vision, figures, margins, etc.

Being good (or even not terrible) at ironing transfers on t-shirts, directing a video, or personally making dehydrated vegetable crisps, and so on, is totally irrelevant. Even more so when you have never done anything like it before. Vana made a costly mistake but it was still based on something of no relevance to whether she might be any good running a business. The tasks provide entertainment but the investment will not be given based on much, if anything, that actually happens during them.
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Old 10-12-2015, 14:31
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Being good (or even not terrible) at ironing transfers on t-shirts, directing a video, or personally making dehydrated vegetable crisps, and so on, is totally irrelevant. Even more so when you have never done anything like it before. Vana made a costly mistake but it was still based on something of no relevance to whether she might be any good running a business. The tasks provide entertainment but the investment will not be given based on much, if anything, that actually happens during them.
Very well said, really don't understand why so many people here think Vana should be totally ruled out of the process just because she used too much olive oil one time when she's consistently shown herself to be the most level headed, competent, well rounded candidate we have left.
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Old 10-12-2015, 14:57
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I think she should of had a "rougher ride" than she got, she ignored the instructions and even refused to listen when her PM asked her to stop. Not saying she was totally to blame, but she did add to the failure of the task as did Richard. But neither of those 2 problems and Brett's dodgy pitch were worse than the other teams. Still thinking it was a fix, and by letting Vana go back it at least guarantees a women in the interview stage.
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Old 10-12-2015, 16:19
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I guess because she sold a £1.4m property, he's prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt and overlook the slimy mishap!
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Old 10-12-2015, 16:26
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I actually think they had a decent product, bar the horrible oily mess. Brett shouldn't have gone but not sure Vana could be held completely responsible either.
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Old 10-12-2015, 17:45
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Brett was robbed Vana should have gone as it was her who chose to override the recommended 50n ml oil and used 150 ml. I cannot understand why Brett didn't bring her back in the boardroom
She shouldve been there instead of Brett but she has done better over the weeks and Bretts time was up.
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Old 10-12-2015, 21:12
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cant put my finger on why but i also feel that Vana should have gone this week and Brett should have stayed. think he could have potentially been in the final so yeah he was robbed
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Old 10-12-2015, 22:45
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cant put my finger on why but i also feel that Vana should have gone this week and Brett should have stayed. think he could have potentially been in the final so yeah he was robbed
I think he should have taken Vana into the boardroom, because of the oil fiasco. That said, LS made it clear that he thought Richard was responsible for the failure of the task, and Brett contradicted him and backed Richard.
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Old 11-12-2015, 05:16
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I think he should have taken Vana into the boardroom, because of the oil fiasco. That said, LS made it clear that he thought Richard was responsible for the failure of the task, and Brett contradicted him and backed Richard.
I find it honorable that Brett did stick up for Richard, even when Richard outright lied and said he hadn't been told about the crisps being dehydrated which is why he didn't put that on the packaging. Had Brett gone in and perhaps pointed the finger at Richard, it might have saved him but I got the feeling that Brett was ready to go.

I think Brett decided to take Richard with him because it was clear LAS had more of an issue with Richard's mistake than Vana's so in his mind, he had a better chance of surviving against Richard.

Personally, I thought Brett and his team were very unlucky as their product was a good one and it surprised me that none of the stores placed an order, even a tiny one. It all felt like this was set up for both teams to lose from the get go to make it more interesting to be honest.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:17
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^^ Yes there's no way someone on Bretts team should of gone, I personally think it was wrong of LAS to basically make Brett bring back Richard, the only thing I can think of is they needed a guaranteed female in the interview stages. Because let's face it the women this year have been largely useless, and not one of them has shown any real talent.
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Old 11-12-2015, 19:54
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yes Vana was responsible for the oily mess otherwise her team would have won
She did seem totally responsible for this but then she wasn't a chef and didn't advertise herself as such whereas Richard was a Marketing Agent and the packaging was a big issue and also was the fact Richard decided unilaterally not to put 'raw' on the label. I think this was of greater significance.

I think she should of had a "rougher ride" than she got, she ignored the instructions and even refused to listen when her PM asked her to stop. Not saying she was totally to blame, but she did add to the failure of the task as did Richard. But neither of those 2 problems and Brett's dodgy pitch were worse than the other teams. Still thinking it was a fix, and by letting Vana go back it at least guarantees a women in the interview stage.
I can'y help wondering if Brett didn't actually push that hard regarding the amount of olive oil being used as he seemed happy to jump on that as a criticism of Vana and he would have certainly brought her back if it wasn't for LA pointing out Richard's negatives.

Vana made a mistake in the cooking but none of them are cooks and at least she gave it a go.
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