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Old 09-12-2015, 23:58
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I have been watching the show since it starts about 10 years ago i don't think i have ever seen the worst bunch of Candidates ever, not one has stood out this year imo other years you can normally spot the ones that have potenail(sp) but not this year

I understand some of the task are not in there field of expertise but you would of thought some of them would adapt to certain tasks but this year it clearly lacking, but last task was a joke as the could get any order which is a first, so out of this years candidates who is best of a bad bunch & who was/is the worst

So why did the producers decide to pick this lot, i don't think any of them are any good but that's just mho
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Old 09-12-2015, 23:59
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Series 4 and Series 8 want a word with you.
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Old 10-12-2015, 00:02
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Series 4 were unlikeable but some of them (only some before you all remind me of the various prats that year) were certainly a lot more competent than this lot.

Series 8, again, competent. Boring candidates for sure that year, but a good few competent ones.

This series' candidates are dull, unlikeable and unprofessional to the max. The ONLY candidates that have been of any noteworth quality are Ruth, David, Scott (for his exit rather than anything else), Selina (for all the wrong reasons), Charleine (again, for all the wrong reasons), Richard and Vana. Everyone else is just.... there. They leave next to no impression. So yes, yes OP, they are the worst candidates yet.
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Old 10-12-2015, 00:23
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Series 4 were unlikeable but some of them (only some before you all remind me of the various prats that year) were certainly a lot more competent than this lot.
But none of them came anywhere near the final though.

Series 8, again, competent. Boring candidates for sure that year, but a good few competent ones.
Think that the likes of Tom and Nick were not that different from a David this year. Very poor candidates like Laura, Jenna, Adam, Stephen and even Gabrielle stayed way too long in the show as well.


This series' candidates are dull, unlikeable and unprofessional to the max. The ONLY candidates that have been of any noteworth quality are Ruth, David, Scott (for his exit rather than anything else), Selina (for all the wrong reasons), Charleine (again, for all the wrong reasons), Richard and Vana. Everyone else is just.... there. They leave next to no impression. So yes, yes OP, they are the worst candidates yet.
Think it has been an improvement over the last three series.

Series 8 as mentioned, in series 9 you basically had Dr. Leah and Luisa (their version of Selina) and think that nobody can recall the final five from that year (even I would be struggling) , series 10 had a few competent candidates like this year but I prefer Richard as the master villain to the Aussie Mark.
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Old 10-12-2015, 00:40
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In terms of business skills, this year's candidates have been the worst. They're not as dislikeable as the horrors from Series 4, but they seem SO weak in other areas (although I appreciate the show is more geared towards showing the candidates in a bad light than ever before).

Selina, as bad she was, was a big character who has dominated the headlines (for all the wrong reasons), Scott's exit was entertaining, and Ruth was quirky and different (in a good way) - but so many of the others have either been bland, forgettable or just plain bad.
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Old 10-12-2015, 00:43
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I think this year's candidates have been very impressive. They excelled in some areas.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:36
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The only thing this year's candidates have excelled in is being obnoxious and unable to do what they claim they are expert in.

Richard and Vana are the only ones with any credibility left but they are still both flawed. If any of the other three make the final two I will be astonished.
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Old 10-12-2015, 13:47
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I've been watching ever since series 2, and have to admit that this is the first time it's got to the interview stage, and I haven't warmed to any candidate or thought at least one of them deserved a win.
How we can get so far into the process and they make such an utter cock-up of the task is beyond me. You'd expect that sort of malarkey on the first three weeks.
So it's all down to business plans. Again.
On a personal preference, I wish it would revert back to a simple job application again...

Having said that, Joseph has continually reduced me to laughter with his uncanny resemblance to "Baz" from "The Fat Slags" strip in "Viz" comic. Quite remarkable! Pity the comedy 'tash comes off next week...
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Old 10-12-2015, 14:42
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If I compare only the Final Five, I'd say it's no better or worse than the last few years.

I mean the last three years the producers have gone into overdrive with the negative editing, meaning that no one has really shone.

In Series 9, we had Fran, probably one of the most useless candidates ever to get to the Final Five. Luisa was also highly controversial, and Leah had question marks surrounding her. Neil and Jordan were the only ones who'd really shone throughout the process.

Last year, only Mark and Roisin looked like potential winners. Bianca, Solomon and Daniel in my opinion, hadn't properly proved themselves in business.

And this year, only Richard and Vana seem like viable candidates, having performed well most of the process, and Joseph looks as though he could be on track. I won't talk about Charleine and Gary though as they're both equally undeserving IMO.

So if I compare it to Series 9 and 10, I don't think it's any worse. It used to be a bit better, but even in Series 2, we had Ansell, who was just there, Series 3, out of which only Katie and Kristina were true contenders IMO, Series 4 had Alex and Helene, Series 6 had Stuart, Series 7 had Natasha and Tom, and Series 8 had Adam. None of the people I've just mentioned really proved themselves in the process.

I think people are just forgetting that the candidates are always bad.
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Old 10-12-2015, 15:19
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If I compare only the Final Five, I'd say it's no better or worse than the last few years.

I mean the last three years the producers have gone into overdrive with the negative editing, meaning that no one has really shone.
Yes, it was notable that on the Final Five programme, everyone's bete noire, Karren Brady, was really positive about all the remaining candidates.
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Old 10-12-2015, 19:24
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I've been watching ever since series 2, and have to admit that this is the first time it's got to the interview stage, and I haven't warmed to any candidate or thought at least one of them deserved a win.
You warmed to someone in series 4
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Old 10-12-2015, 19:58
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The best season was the season which had Jim 'Jedi' Jim. What a character people like that will always be remembered.
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Old 10-12-2015, 21:00
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The best season was the season which had Jim 'Jedi' Jim. What a character people like that will always be remembered.
Season 7 was quite dull. Jedi Jim was the only particularly memorable character
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Old 10-12-2015, 21:11
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Re Joseph

He reminds me of Mickey Pearce from Only Fools & Horses

Expecting him to say he comes from a Near Area Estate !
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Old 10-12-2015, 21:48
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Re Joseph

He reminds me of Mickey Pearce from Only Fools & Horses

Expecting him to say he comes from a Near Area Estate !
I think it was the Nyerere estate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Nyerere

as Delboy and Rodney lived in Nelson Mandela House.
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Old 10-12-2015, 23:15
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Yes, I do think the candidates this year have been low in ability and professionalism. Not sure if the worst ever but certainly unimpressive.
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Old 10-12-2015, 23:23
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The only thing this year's candidates have excelled in is being obnoxious and unable to do what they claim they are expert in.

Richard and Vana are the only ones with any credibility left but they are still both flawed. If any of the other three make the final two I will be astonished.
Prepare to be astonished imo! Joseph will definitely be there for me
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Old 10-12-2015, 23:36
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They need to get rid of The Sugarnator.
He is well past his sell by date.
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Old 11-12-2015, 08:44
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The only thing this year's candidates have excelled in is being obnoxious and unable to do what they claim they are expert in.

Richard and Vana are the only ones with any credibility left but they are still both flawed. If any of the other three make the final two I will be astonished.
The standard has been very, very poor this year. Many forgettable candidates, 2 absolute bitches of questionable competence (Charleine and Selina) and a couple who seem to know what they're doing.

Whether you like Richard or not, he's been by the far the most consistent candidate throughout the process. Been on the winning team 8 times, won twice as project manager, easily generated the most money throughout the process.

I don't know what Sugar was talking about the other night. Richard's marketing of the snacks was miles better than the other team's. The look and feel of his product was a million times more professional.

Vana is the most professional out of the rest of them but she threw Brett and Richard under a bus. If she hadn't been such a brainless cretin with the oil, their team would have easily won.

Charleine would have left and that would have been an entirely deserved outcome considering her management of the task was absolutely woeful.

Joseph has generally been competent (if a little forgettable) and would likely be a good fit for Sugar as they're both enormous plebs.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:34
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Richard is one of the best candidates the show's ever had, if not the best, in terms of task performance and contribution.

As for the rest Charleine's a sales bludger with highly questionable interpersonal skills. Vana's a tagalong who's floated to the end by having a professional veneer and occasionally closing a sale, Joseph's a "just like you Lordalan" wideboy who excels at dirty, and Gary's a steady Eddie who's got here via affability and his day job skills. They don't, to me, stand out as being obviously any different than your typical Final 5 line-up on this show, and it shows in the level of supremely petty stuff they've had to be picked up on over the course of the series to make for "interesting television", particularly Richard.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:16
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So if I compare it to Series 9 and 10, I don't think it's any worse. It used to be a bit better, but even in Series 2, we had Ansell, who was just there,
To me, Vana is about at Ansell's level. She's made quite a few mistakes, including a bad stint as PM, and not done anything outstandingly good. And yet she's being hailed as one of the best two. That really shows how poor the standard is this year. As does both teams getting zero sales, which seems incredible incompetence for this stage of the process.

Richard is the other of the best two? He's the person who took the word "raw" off the packaging when it was pretty much their prime selling point. He didn't understand the product they were making at all - and he was the PM.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:20
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Richard is one of the best candidates the show's ever had, if not the best, in terms of task performance and contribution.

As for the rest Charleine's a sales bludger with highly questionable interpersonal skills. Vana's a tagalong who's floated to the end by having a professional veneer and occasionally closing a sale, Joseph's a "just like you Lordalan" wideboy who excels at dirty, and Gary's a steady Eddie who's got here via affability and his day job skills. They don't, to me, stand out as being obviously any different than your typical Final 5 line-up on this show, and it shows in the level of supremely petty stuff they've had to be picked up on over the course of the series to make for "interesting television", particularly Richard.
Completely agree.

The way that Sugar talked to Richard last night was deeply unprofessional. He took it to a personal level because he had nothing really constructive to say. It was just for TV.

As we've both said, Richard stands out a mile against the others. He's generally far more competent and even discounting his Brent-esque personality, it's obvious that most respect him. I thought he was generally very fair as PM as well.

This series has been a low point tbh. I can't remember how many times that I've been almost too embarrassed to watch further. There have been so many cringe-worthy moments this year and so many lacklustre candidates.

Aisha, Natalie, April, Sam, Ruth, and Mergim were largely poor but Dan, Jenny, & Elle took it to a new level. What were the producers thinking having Jenny in the process? She's a 23 year old University student who has very little real experience in the world of work. What could she possibly bring to the process?!

She got 1st on her BA in Business - wow. I got a Distinction on a Master's in Business Management and can safely say it was the most pointless year of study I've ever done...I only did the MSc(Econ) so I could stay at Uni for another year and party a bit more.

The same is true of Elle who obviously embellished her CV and likely works/worked for family because there's no way she'd rise to a senior position at 20/21 without serious nepotism.

Dan was just a useless, personality-less wet blanket.

I can't see this show continuing for much longer unless there are some serious changes made. I think they need to get rid of both Sugar (who's long past his sell by date) and Brady (whose contributions are superfluous at best). Perhaps better screening of candidates would work as well?

But maybe they want shit candidates though as it makes good TV?
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:21
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I can see it being a final between Richard and Joseph myself.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:31
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Richard is the other of the best two? He's the person who took the word "raw" off the packaging when it was pretty much their prime selling point. He didn't understand the product they were making at all - and he was the PM.
He wasn't the PM though. Yes, this was a mistake by him but he designed a professional product that wouldn't have looked out of place in a supermarket. The reason Brett's team got no sales was because the product inside was hideous. If Vana hadn't have been such an idiot with the oil, they'd have walked this task and would have got orders.

Compare the look and feel of Richard's design with the other team's and it's night and day. I could do a better job than 'Rejuvenate' in an hour on Adobe Photoshop or GIMP and I'm not a graphic designer!

It was absolutely f**king appalling. Charleine's management was woeful and was the main reason why her team failed. She had no idea what ingredients she'd put in, her direction to her team was dreadful and that's why they ended up with a confused, ridiculous product that they couldn't pitch which had felt tip pen all over it. It was amateurish in the extreme.

Richard has a far better record in the process than anyone else. Won 8 times, won 2 times as PM, Won 2 times as sub-team leader and sold far more.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:38
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I feel like we were heavily spoiled with S9 and S10 candidates who were a great mix of competency/entertainment. I really ejoyed both series. This year....not so much. I have just found most of them so boring and generic
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