I don't think she won solely because of Aljaz but it would be disingenuous to say a new male pro isn't a pull for the typical demographic of this programme:
Without question could be a pull, but that pull aided by the celebrity. And also, if we're talking demographic, women are other women's biggest demographic, if we're to believe what is suggested by those people that visualise their target audiences. it is believed men can predominantly only watch and suport somethng predominantly with males in it, whereas females can watch and suport anything with males or females in it. The idea is if any woman on tv is to get support, she needs a female audience at minimum. Not my rules, what those gods of tv, film and media say about their ideas of viewership.
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
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Artem won in his first year with Kara.
Yes, Kara who was a lovely girl and also a lovely dancer. Both prob aided by the talk of a romance which may have helped connect some viewers to them, on top of the dancing. Artem was painted as the cold, strict terminator, with Kara his contrasting smiley, chirpy lovely opposite. The difference may have intrigued some viewers and he was blessed to be able to create nice routines with someone that had the tools for him to do it with on his very first outing. Artem didn't get as far with with Ferne, so he lacks pull with lesser dancers, but does well with good dancers. So the trend is perhaps his dancer's ability as much as himself.
Pasha got to the final with Chelsee in his first year (and wuzrobbed).
Yes, Chelsee who was sometimes seen as a dippy but harmless very nice girl that, like Kara, had a talent to dance. They had a nice relationship, so easy to watch as a pair on and off the floor. Pasha is a nice man too, so together they were a nice combo and he, like Artem was, lucky to have a talented dancer on his first outing. He does well with good dancers, didn't get as far with Rachel and Carol (though granted prob further than expected with Carol).
I would agree, I think Chelsee should have won that year, though I wouldn't say robbed as such, as the public vote is the correct vote (regardless of whether I persoanlly agree with it).
Aljaz won with Abbey and Kevin got to the final with Susanna, both in their first year.
Alijaz, i see pretty much in the same way as Artem and Pasha. Did well with two good dancers, but made no real mark with a lesser dancer like Alison. When the pros has a limited pro, sometimes himself is not enough.
As for this year, Gleb and Giovanni have come this far with their ladies and while there's a question mark over Georgia's head, Anita is most likely to get to the final.”
Gleb and Giovanni, both again have very decent dancers, Anita extremely decent for a total novice! So again, they have the tools to a degree. Georgia imo is a better dancer than Anita, so it's a shame for Giovanni that he might just miss out on the final in his first year, but how lucky was he to get a dancer in Georgia. he's even said it himself.
With Gleb, Alijaz, Giovanni, Pasha and Artem, all, imo, did well in there opening years because they were not limited by their partners. They could show what they were made of, as well as showcase their partner too. If Alijaz had Alison first year, Artem had Ferne in the first year, Pasha had Rachel the first year and Giovanni say.... the least best dancing female this year, their fortunes may well have been diffferent for their debut series. I know, prob silly to speculate, but as we know that they didn't get as far with certain partners, it may well be a good guess they would have similarly not got as far with them if they had been paried with them on their very first outing. Then we'd be saying, lets hope we see them with a better dancer next year, like has been said of Oti this year, or Joanne last year. We're not sure of how we totally feel for Oti and Joanne becasue they've not had good partners. It will be interesting to see how Giovanni and Gleb will fair with lesser dancers, as Pasha, Artem and Aljaz certainly had contrasting years when they didn't have good dancers.
As for Kevin, well, I will hold my hands up. Yes Susanna was the talked about tv presenter at the time, but I am surprised they got far, but... they did, and well done to them. However not surprised at all that he got to the final with Frankie, as she was pretty much a contender from very early on and she could dance. With Kellie, well, they made it to this later point, so have really done well again (be it having survived two dance offs to get there).
I know this show is watched by lots of females, but not all females will just vote for a male (celeb or pro) that they fancy. Amongst my friends my girlfriends have like watching the female pros and female celebs as much as the male ones, and a girl may vote easily for a girl celeb that inspires her (from the dancing) as much as a man she likes watching dance because it's the gender she naturally gravites towards.
So the pull of a male pro can be great, but I still think it's perfectly sensible to assume they can't do it on their own. Has there ever been a female winner of this show were there was an obvious love for her pro but no love or appreciation for her. It seems unobvious to me that a succesful male pro has not been in some way aided by the appeal (of whatever kind) of that of their female celeb. Jill, Kara, Abbey, Alesha, Caroline, even Natasha, they seemed liked enough at the time for people to want them to win (alongside that of the will of their pro to win).
Anyway, I apologise for going on, and randomly picking out your post. It's not personal really to you, I just had general thoughts on what you said.
) but simply because I enjoy watching them and I can finally, belatedly, appreciate her love of dance that I didn't really pick up on or connect with at the time.
