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Old 19-02-2016, 09:31
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The actor that plays Catherine has a dream job.. months of paid accommodation and wages in the Caribbean for saying 1 sentence in every episode and serving the odd drink.

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Old 19-02-2016, 12:46
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Surely the phone call alibi went out of the window as soon as Catherine gave the suspect his own? Immediately passed suspicion onto the calls recipient. After all, who can tell if there's anyone on the other end unless you're on speakerphone.
Next week - I do hope that the ex (colleague, girlfriend?) shown in the trailer isn't the culprit. Then she can drag Humphrey back to the UK and finish the programme off.
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:40
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If everything had gone according to plan, the emergency services would have turned up and dealt with the body very soon after the phone call. Wouldn't it have been obvious that he had been dead for some time?
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:43
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Just as well the 'son' didn't fall off a boat. The last time that happened he ended up in Atlantis.

(took me ages to realise where I'd seen him before)
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Old 19-02-2016, 15:50
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I think this has rather gone off.
Maybe it's becoming a bit "samey."

It happens a lot with repeat series. They try to cut down on the production costs, so the plots and support cast aren't as good.
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:04
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Just as well the 'son' didn't fall off a boat. The last time that happened he ended up in Atlantis.

(took me ages to realise where I'd seen him before)
it was like a "prequel".
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Old 20-02-2016, 03:08
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Surely the phone call alibi went out of the window as soon as Catherine gave the suspect his own? Immediately passed suspicion onto the calls recipient. After all, who can tell if there's anyone on the other end unless you're on speakerphone.
Next week - I do hope that the ex (colleague, girlfriend?) shown in the trailer isn't the culprit. Then she can drag Humphrey back to the UK and finish the programme off.
The minute she answered the call anyone who has watched this would know he wasn't on the other end because we had no scene of him talking or even his voice. And as you said given he allegedly said on the call that the Newton guy stabbed him once Newton had the alibi the wife should have been the most obvious suspect in the world.

Also I feel the episode glossed over how these lovers were happy to throw Newton in prison all because the son had daddy issues and ended up in "love" with his step-mother. Like they had no guilt about setting up poor Newton.
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Old 20-02-2016, 08:38
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I would sooner swap 8 one hour episodes for 5 one and a half hour episodes per series.

Most detective series these days are either 90 or 120 minutes (less on ITV because of ads) but main problem is they have to gallop through it. A little more time to lay a few more false trails, (and slightly less obvious scenarios- she took the call so she must be involved) and this could be far better.
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Old 20-02-2016, 08:39
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The minute she answered the call anyone who has watched this would know he wasn't on the other end because we had no scene of him talking or even his voice. And as you said given he allegedly said on the call that the Newton guy stabbed him once Newton had the alibi the wife should have been the most obvious suspect in the world.

Also I feel the episode glossed over how these lovers were happy to throw Newton in prison all because the son had daddy issues and ended up in "love" with his step-mother. Like they had no guilt about setting up poor Newton.
Agreed about the call. I said to my other half that the call was fake immediately Newton had an alibi.

Is this two weeks in a row a son has stabbed a father?
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:21
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The minute she answered the call anyone who has watched this would know he wasn't on the other end because we had no scene of him talking or even his voice. And as you said given he allegedly said on the call that the Newton guy stabbed him once Newton had the alibi the wife should have been the most obvious suspect in the world.

Also I feel the episode glossed over how these lovers were happy to throw Newton in prison all because the son had daddy issues and ended up in "love" with his step-mother. Like they had no guilt about setting up poor Newton.
£300,000 worth of silver coins seems a good reason before you even allow for the father/husband.
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:13
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The actor that plays Catherine has a dream job.. months of paid accommodation and wages in the Caribbean for saying 1 sentence in every episode and serving the odd drink.

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The guy who plays the Commissioner has it pretty good too, he wasn't even in one episode this series. A couple of months in the Caribbean and needs to learn about 6 lines per episode.
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Old 20-02-2016, 14:40
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Whilst I've defended this programme ( and MSM) in the past, as something that does not need to be taken too seriously, I really think that the writers are taking the P, now, with implausible nonsense.

This is (at the very least) the third time that one of the prima facie prime suspects as made a crime seem 'impossible' by explicitly providing false timing information.

Humphery is supposed to be extremely sharp, yet, when presented with a crime that is made impossible simply because of the unsupported word of one or more of the most obvious suspects, he ignores the possibility that a suspect might be lying until close to the end of the episode.

I really do think it's time to either get in new script writers who can come up with better story lines, or bring the whole thing to a dignified end. (Preferably, former.)
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Old 20-02-2016, 15:22
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Agree, Humph always seems to just take what the suspects say as fact straight away.

Agreed about the call. I said to my other half that the call was fake immediately Newton had an alibi.

Is this two weeks in a row a son has stabbed a father?
Yep basically the same storyline twice in a row, because last week although not the fathers wife the father had previously slept with the girl the son loved. Someone on the writing team has daddy issues.
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Old 21-02-2016, 20:14
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God that was obvious from 2 minutes in that they were having an affair and killed the father, ................r.
I agree that the basis of the plot was obvious from the point when she received a call. And the whole scene was purely for the benefit of the viewer ... nobody else at the scene could have said whether she had a phone call or not.

Surely the first thing an investigator would have done would be to contact the phone company for details of the call - and the location of the caller.
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Old 21-02-2016, 20:49
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Just as well the 'son' didn't fall off a boat. The last time that happened he ended up in Atlantis.
Ha, yes! I bet he wishes that had actually happened

Surely the first thing an investigator would have done would be to contact the phone company for details of the call - and the location of the caller.
I suspect that the number of mobile masts on the island is pretty small, and the phone could only be traced to an area surrounding the mast rather than an exact location, it's unlikely that they would have got much more than "it was Tosh's phone in an area near the harbour". I'd let them off that one given the other far more suspect plot areas
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Old 21-02-2016, 21:36
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I agree that the basis of the plot was obvious from the point when she received a call. And the whole scene was purely for the benefit of the viewer ... nobody else at the scene could have said whether she had a phone call or not.

Surely the first thing an investigator would have done would be to contact the phone company for details of the call - and the location of the caller.
It would not have proved much as they were using her husband's phone and in the same general area as he would have been if he had made the call.
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Old 21-02-2016, 22:06
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I agree that the basis of the plot was obvious from the point when she received a call. And the whole scene was purely for the benefit of the viewer ... nobody else at the scene could have said whether she had a phone call or not.

Surely the first thing an investigator would have done would be to contact the phone company for details of the call - and the location of the caller.
They also made it so obvious because the son and the wife were always together, the other random team member never was. Like when they were sitting all close together on the crates at the start it was so obvious they were having it off with each other. Also why the other guy went to the bar first ahead of everyone, also obvious the other 2 were in cahoots.
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Old 21-02-2016, 23:12
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The guy who plays the Commissioner has it pretty good too, he wasn't even in one episode this series. A couple of months in the Caribbean and needs to learn about 6 lines per episode.
He deserves the break after all those years of Rising Damp.
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Old 21-02-2016, 23:17
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He deserves the break after all those years of Rising Damp.
No he doesn't. It turned out in the movie that he lied about being a real African Prince after all.
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Old 21-02-2016, 23:54
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It would not have proved much as they were using her husband's phone and in the same general area as he would have been if he had made the call.
They can't have been that close : they left (I can't even remember the names now ) the husband and the framee, to go to the restaurant. The framee was in the the bar at 30 minutes past the hour, and we didn't seethe couple in the restaurant until 15 minutes later,

I have a feeling they can find the location of a mobile phone to within ten metres or so.
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Old 22-02-2016, 08:29
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I have a feeling they can find the location of a mobile phone to within ten metres or so.
The only time that they can find a phone with any accuracy is in very high density urban areas where every point is covered by multiple masts, Even then is is by no means an exact fix, relying as it does on relative signal strengths which can be dynamically affected by all sorts of issues.

On the island it's extremely unlikely that there would be sufficient base stations to provide any useful fix.
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Old 22-02-2016, 09:25
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But what is to stop the service provider's systems logging the GPS position of the phone when a call is made or received? But do they?
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Old 22-02-2016, 10:14
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The only time that they can find a phone with any accuracy is in very high density urban areas where every point is covered by multiple masts, Even then is is by no means an exact fix, relying as it does on relative signal strengths which can be dynamically affected by all sorts of issues.

On the island it's extremely unlikely that there would be sufficient base stations to provide any useful fix.
Isn't the island mountainous, or at least hilly? I'd have expected there to be more stations, in that case. Unless they just accept that large parts of the island have no coverage. I suspect it's the latter.
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Old 22-02-2016, 11:05
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But what is to stop the service provider's systems logging the GPS position of the phone when a call is made or received? But do they?
I don't think they do though it is possible however for that to work GPS would have to be turned on, certainly on my phone it is turned off unless I need it.
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Old 22-02-2016, 11:48
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But does it actually turned GPS off or just blocked all and sundry apps from being allowed to access it. I think I saw somewhere about this info being made available for emergency service use but can't remember if that was current actuality or future plans.

Has anyone used as a plot device someone unusually using a low cost basic phone that does not have these smart features or is it taken as read that these are the province of drug dealers and delivery drivers?
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