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Old 25-02-2016, 21:59
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I only caught the last 10 minutes but is it me or was there zero actual evidence that he shot her? Surely it was all circumstantial. Unless I've missed something...
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Old 25-02-2016, 22:00
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So it's the same plot yet again. Not killed when the shot went off, but earlier. The scenery is attractive, but apart from the local killing the plots have been hopeless this series.
The locked room added a touch of mystery to it.

Got it the same time as Humphrey!

I see Sally Bretton was playing...well..the same character she plays in everything.
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Old 25-02-2016, 22:39
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So it's the same plot yet again. Not killed when the shot went off, but earlier. The scenery is attractive, but apart from the local killing the plots have been hopeless this series.
Trouble is sticking to such a simple plot then they are very limited in what different methods etc they can use. I do think they could actually do more linkage across the weeks so that it's not so simple and worked out in less than 30 mins.
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Old 25-02-2016, 22:45
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Sad to say it got a bit boring towards the end of the series. I think it's had its day. I won't be bothered if there's no further series. I'd recorded both this and the Good Wife. I started to watch it, but once my recording had "got ahead of the commercials" I turned over to watch the Good Wife. I didn't go back to finish D I P.
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Old 25-02-2016, 22:52
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I only dip into it on occasion. It does all seem rather cheap, mechanical and simplistic at times. I know it's meant to be a lightweight detective show, but still, it needs to at least have a pulse of some kind. The actors often look bored out of their minds.
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Old 25-02-2016, 22:56
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I only caught the last 10 minutes but is it me or was there zero actual evidence that he shot her? Surely it was all circumstantial. Unless I've missed something...
I watched it all the way through and I didn't think they had any evidence against him. Usually they get the perp to confess and we have to assume the confession will be admissable, but no confession even this time.

I think they should take a break from "locked room" mysteries as they are repeating old plots so often. Can't they think up some other kinds of puzzles?
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Old 25-02-2016, 22:58
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I only dip into it on occasion. It does all seem rather cheap, mechanical and simplistic at times. I know it's meant to be a lightweight detective show, but still, it needs to at least have a pulse of some kind. The actors often look bored out of their minds.
You can say a lot of things about DiP but cheap?
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:02
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You can say a lot of things about DiP but cheap?
Well, the cost of sending the cast/crew out there to one side, yes the production itself has a very cheap vibe.

It has that familiar cheap TV drama feel, perfunctory camera shots/positioning, absolutely no time and care whatsoever into making it look dynamic in any way. Zero style. It could almost be an episode of Eastenders the way it's shot, just with nice views.
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:03
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I only caught the last 10 minutes but is it me or was there zero actual evidence that he shot her? Surely it was all circumstantial. Unless I've missed something...
That's exactly what we said. Entertaining enough, but a court would've thrown it out!
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:07
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So it's the same plot yet again. Not killed when the shot went off, but earlier. The scenery is attractive, but apart from the local killing the plots have been hopeless this series.
So because the murder didn't take place when it first seemed (in a show where the theme is every murder is seemingly impossible), it's classed as the same plot??

It must be awful for you knowing who how and why every episode after 10 minutes?

I love this series and that was a great episode. Nice scenery, like you say, catchy music, light hearted, feel good stuff.

Last one of the series tho
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:39
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Humphrey dancing to soca at the end lool!
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:43
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So it's the same plot yet again. Not killed when the shot went off, but earlier. The scenery is attractive, but apart from the local killing the plots have been hopeless this series.
So why do you watch the programme?
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:45
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The locked room added a touch of mystery to it.

Got it the same time as Humphrey!

I see Sally Bretton was playing...well..the same character she plays in everything.
There are some very distinguished award winning actress who always play the same part, at least she is easy on the eye.
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:49
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So because the murder didn't take place when it first seemed (in a show where the theme is every murder is seemingly impossible), it's classed as the same plot??

It must be awful for you knowing who how and why every episode after 10 minutes?

I love this series and that was a great episode. Nice scenery, like you say, catchy music, light hearted, feel good stuff.

Last one of the series tho
Agreed, there are probably not that many different murder plots so there are always going to be similarities. It's perhaps a pity that they used 'Death' in the title as they could perhaps branch out into other crimes.
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Old 25-02-2016, 23:53
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As I said earlier I haven't watched the end of this, but I did notice the big disco amp speaker on a table near the shower room. I'd decided quite early on, it'd be another "killed earlier" scenario and that maybe the recorded gunshot was broadcast by the speaker.
Was it?
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Old 26-02-2016, 00:08
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Well I, for one, am delighted to hear it's been recommissioned for another series.
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Old 26-02-2016, 00:11
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I found this somewhat more interesting than the previous 2 weeks. But similar storylines again, earlier death, crime of passion,
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Old 26-02-2016, 00:45
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So why do you watch the programme?
If it doesn't improve at the start of next season I won't be. The episode turned out not to be as weak as some, but no one could reasonably claim that the plots have been good this series.
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Old 26-02-2016, 00:47
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Last week was by far the worst, the killers were obvious from the initial scene.
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Old 26-02-2016, 07:01
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Yeas they have used the 'delay' scenario quite a bit this season. You immediately think it was that method as soon as the body us found now.

Also the production must be getting its budget cut we are down to four suspects this episode, we had only three a few episodes ago. Sorry it's losing its appeal.
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Old 26-02-2016, 08:21
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Well I, for one, am delighted to hear it's been recommissioned for another series.
So am I. It's never been the greatest kind of detective/crime series when it comes to plots and story lines. But it retains that feelgood factor which few series can match. And there's nothing wrong with a bit of "likeability" in the dreary winter months.
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Old 26-02-2016, 08:25
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I found this somewhat more interesting than the previous 2 weeks. But similar storylines again, earlier death, crime of passion,
Yes, why can't they have "normal", straightforward murders: drug gangs, robbery/murder, assault gone wrong, manslaughter, murder / suicide? (Ans: because the tourist board for the islands would never allow a "realistic" depiction of the place)

It's fortunate for the writers that they don't appear to have any forensic capability available. Otherwise they would have found no GSR on the victim but a clear indication on the killer. Plus the fibres from the pillow would have indicated the m/o immediately. The who thing could have been over in 5 minutes
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Old 26-02-2016, 09:13
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What I am fining more and more annoying (apart from the plot recycling which is, to be fair, the nature of the beast), is the way that the writers completely ignore obvious lines of enquiry just because they know who did it.

In the fashion episode they took no evidence from the security guards, even though it would have been vital to ensure that it was not an 'outsider' who may have got in.

In this episode, there was not the vaguest attempt to check if the shower room was actually secure. Could the shutters have been tampered with in some way? Was there a loose roof panel? Was there any access from below?

As for the actual method used, I'm not at all convinced that you could set up a freshly dead body in such a way that it fell exactly how you wanted it.

Just one last thing.

Is it very likely that someone would build a shower room with no windows for ventilation?
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Old 26-02-2016, 09:33
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What I am fining more and more annoying (apart from the plot recycling which is, to be fair, the nature of the beast), is the way that the writers completely ignore obvious lines of enquiry just because they know who did it.

In the fashion episode they took no evidence from the security guards, even though it would have been vital to ensure that it was not an 'outsider' who may have got in.

In this episode, there was not the vaguest attempt to check if the shower room was actually secure. Could the shutters have been tampered with in some way? Was there a loose roof panel? Was there any access from below?

As for the actual method used, I'm not at all convinced that you could set up a freshly dead body in such a way that it fell exactly how you wanted it.

Just one last thing.

Is it very likely that someone would build a shower room with no windows for ventilation?
There was the slatted window which the owner bashed down to get into at the start - that was a main point of the 'set up'!

Yes its not exactly Silent Witness when it comes to forensics and they do take a lot of short cuts in terms of procedure, but that's not going to stop it getting its regular (and substantial) audience.

It is a pity that the BBC do seem to have reigned in the budget a bit, but if they can still get a big audience for it why not? - such are the considerations and dilemmas of a publicly funded broadcaster.
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Old 26-02-2016, 09:38
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Aside from the Grand High Priestess of Holy Council Of Vital Tourism dictating what sort of criminal activity is permitted in these places - and the allowable context for any such crime:
... It's fortunate for the writers that they don't appear to have any forensic capability available. Otherwise they would have found no GSR on the victim but a clear indication on the killer. Plus the fibres from the pillow would have indicated the m/o immediately. The who thing could have been over in 5 minutes
I think there would have been a fair few clues that didn't need a full-on 3D-enhanced holographic CSI experience, the amount of scorching* (did that get a mention at all, even in passing?), definitely some fibres or possibly feathers if it's a posh hostel that doesn't care if people can sleep or not.

I hadn't thought about the towel trick, just holding the body against the door while it was open and letting it slump down to wedge it shut, same principle though. I hadn't guessed whodunnit but did at least start with the assumption that (a) someone was lying and (b) not all the 'facts' were correct, I'm obviously ready to be a genius detective
The other option (as mentioned above) was that the slatted window was tampered with or not fitting properly but breaking it in would have hidden that fact.


* assuming these newfangled automated flintlock contraptions still burn gunpowder underneath that ghastly blackened cast-iron outer covering they now have, dreadful things, no trimming, not even a proper hand-crafted walnut grip...
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