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Old 22-01-2016, 09:18
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For something with paradise in its title it always seem to be overcast, cloudy and even chucking down with rain at one point last night. Do they only get to shoot DIP out of season when they won't bother the tourists?

Last night's was a bit duller than the previous week's - it's losing its appeal. For us it was one of the few progs that we'll watch together (Top Gear was the other) but last night as prev week, I lost interest, boy #2 was buried in Youtube vids by halfway through and oh had returned to marking A level coursework instead of this. Even I got the answer by halfway, and I used to struggle with Midsommer Murders sometimes.

The long-drawn out will they won't they embers of a love story needs to get a move on. We've had the signals now thanks, so get a move on. Hopefully next week's episode will close with a murderer being carted away by Duane and the subsequent sounds of a squeaking bed and Humphrey's beach side cabin swaying lightly in time with the waves.
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Old 22-01-2016, 09:24
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Is the viewing figures really that important, ? People seem to slag programes if the viewing figures are below a certain figure. Just enjoy the program for what it is, imo it does not matter if 20 million watch, or your the sole viewer,
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Old 22-01-2016, 09:35
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People stop watching if it's become a bit dull, or a bit routine, or if the names that originally made it a good watch move on and are replaced with new identikit characters.

Viewing figures on their own aren't the only guide, but a steady fall from previous good figures is certainly an indication of a programme on the wane.
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Old 22-01-2016, 09:49
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For something with paradise in its title it always seem to be overcast, cloudy and even chucking down with rain at one point last night. Do they only get to shoot DIP out of season when they won't bother the tourists?
I believe peak season in the Caribbean is now, when it's on. So I guess it's shot during our summer which is rainy season over there. Even so miles better weather than the UK (unless a hurricane pops along of course)
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Old 22-01-2016, 10:00
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Another by-the-numbers episode. Trouble is, every week they use the same numbers. Has this series become a cheap Caribbean holiday perk for bored BBC film crews?
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Old 22-01-2016, 10:07
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I wish my high end camera had a "take a load of pictures automatically while I stand over there" setting in the menu.

And Oh look... another lesbian angle.

I fear that last night's episode may very well be the beginning of the end of the show for me
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Old 22-01-2016, 10:33
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I must admit that I didn't get it, although I considered the photographer, but dismissed the idea of him leaving the camera unattended because the fact that there would be a succession of images with exactly the same framing would be so blindingly obvious that he would have been nailed the moment they looked at the pictures.....................
Not to mention the fact that any of the others could have wandered past the camera at any point.

Why do these people insist on killing someone in a closed environment, with with only a few others present, who are in constant sight of each other anyway? Why can't they kill them at a time and place at which everyone on the island has the opportunity?
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Old 22-01-2016, 10:47
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Not to mention the fact that any of the others could have wandered past the camera at any point.
That can happen though even when the pictures are being taken manually.
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Old 22-01-2016, 10:55
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Not to mention the fact that any of the others could have wandered past the camera at any point.
Not to mention that absolutely nobody in the fashion show audience saw the photographer push trough the audience then climb under the stage at the end of the catwalk.
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Old 22-01-2016, 12:15
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And not to mention that he can leave his expensive camera unattended for so long without it getting nicked.
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Old 22-01-2016, 12:18
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Not to mention that absolutely nobody in the fashion show audience saw the photographer push trough the audience then climb under the stage at the end of the catwalk.
Did they even question the audience?
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Old 22-01-2016, 12:24
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Did they even question the audience?
Not that we saw, they seemed to just vanish. Now that you mention it any member of that audience could have been the killer, let alone a witness.
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Old 22-01-2016, 12:58
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Did they even question the audience?
Perhaps they could not afford to question the audience because they would have to pay any extras who spoke a higher fee!
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Old 22-01-2016, 13:08
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Perhaps they could not afford to question the audience because they would have to pay any extras who spoke a higher fee!
Chortle

DiP has always been one of those shows that uses a minimum of 'speaking' actors!

I may be wrong but I do sense there may have been a slight budget cut for this series, slightly less characters in each episode, less locations used per episode, more scenic 'stock' footage...... still enjoyable way to pass an hour on a cold, wet January evening though
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Old 22-01-2016, 13:11
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Chortle

DiP has always been one of those shows that uses a minimum of 'speaking' actors!

I may be wrong but I do sense there may have been a slight budget cut for this series, slightly less characters in each episode, less locations used per episode, more scenic 'stock' footage...... still enjoyable way to pass an hour on a cold, wet January evening though
I mostly agree with this sentiment
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Old 22-01-2016, 13:22
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Not to mention the fact that any of the others could have wandered past the camera at any point.

Why do these people insist on killing someone in a closed environment, with with only a few others present, who are in constant sight of each other anyway? Why can't they kill them at a time and place at which everyone on the island has the opportunity?
Part of the problem is it only being an hour long.

I'm not sure it has done enough to deserve to be extended to 90 minutes, let alone 2 hours, but it leaves no room for any plot development. A couple of blind alleys ('She won't let me search her room'- so we know it won't be her)- It's all too quick- right down to needing to keep it simple with no more than 5 suspects. 2 or 3 blind alleys (that because of time constraints can never be explored) and you realise they will be blind alleys (because they always are) and- hey presto- the one who couldn't possibly have done it turns out to be the murderer.

Every week.
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Old 22-01-2016, 13:29
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Did they even question the audience?
Not that we saw, they seemed to just vanish. Now that you mention it any member of that audience could have been the killer, let alone a witness.
I thought this about 'security'.

These would be some of the first and most important people they would question.

But, in reality, you have to treat this programme in the same way you treat Midsomer Murders and the various Agatha Christies. Enjoyable hokum.
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Old 22-01-2016, 13:57
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I thought this about 'security'.

These would be some of the first and most important people they would question.

But, in reality, you have to treat this programme in the same way you treat Midsomer Murders and the various Agatha Christies. Enjoyable hokum.
Indeed you do, apart from Agatha Christies.... she doesn't play by the rules so I've never been a fan of her books and don't watch the various tv adaptions. Also Hercule Poirot is such an annoying bugger that if there were any justice at all someone would lamp him every time pops up.
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Old 22-01-2016, 14:52
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Indeed you do, apart from Agatha Christies.... she doesn't play by the rules so I've never been a fan of her books and don't watch the various tv adaptions. Also Hercule Poirot is such an annoying bugger that if there were any justice at all someone would lamp him every time pops up.
I seem to recall an interview with her and she said that she does not decide who the murderer is until she writes the "big reveal" and so it is impossible to deduce it as all the clues are false. So until that point it is possible they all did it or none of them did it in equal measure. She then picks a random culprit and goes back and inserts one clue that the deductions rely on.

In a way, MIP does this a little bit as we (the audience) are shielded a little from the big clue that he spots near the end.
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Old 22-01-2016, 15:13
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I'm afraid I agree that the plots are getting terrible. I had the photographer as the culprit about half-way through, but thought he might have fiddled with the time stamp somehow. Still enjoyable piffle though, I don't like these 'dark' mysteries like Broadchurch or Shetland, give me sunshine any time.
Wouldn't TV be boring if we all liked the same stuff!
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Old 22-01-2016, 15:25
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Clearly this show doesn't take itself too seriously. It's a bit of fun in the sun, with a "mysterious murder thrown in'. Do we really have to deeply analyze why they didn't do this or that.

I tune in for the sun, the sights and the easy going plot line.
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Old 22-01-2016, 15:53
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I thought this about 'security'.

These would be some of the first and most important people they would question.
Yes, I thought that too, and guessed they didn't want to have to pay more actors or extras to play them.
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Old 22-01-2016, 17:13
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Clearly this show doesn't take itself too seriously. It's a bit of fun in the sun, with a "mysterious murder thrown in'. Do we really have to deeply analyze why they didn't do this or that.

I tune in for the sun, the sights and the easy going plot line.
Exactly, we never see any other police apart from the four of them but there is an elegantly uniformed Police Commissioner with a big car - I don't think we ever see where he is based. Who takes the 999 calls at night when they are all off duty but no one else ever responds, they just call one of the four - I have done 24/7 on-call, you do not touch any drink when on call. But still like it and find enjoyable, of course the 'scenery' helps.
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Old 23-01-2016, 17:34
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BTW: Did anyone else notice the Kris Marshall sounded as if he had a bad throat for a few of his lines?
Yes! I thought it was him trying to sound 'mysteriously sexy' in a gravely voice way to tie in with the story line of him looking for a female mate!!

I'm afraid I agree that the plots are getting terrible. I had the photographer as the culprit about half-way through, but thought he might have fiddled with the time stamp somehow. Still enjoyable piffle though, I don't like these 'dark' mysteries like Broadchurch or Shetland, give me sunshine any time.
Wouldn't TV be boring if we all liked the same stuff!
I wouldn't say the plots are getting terrible but yeah it wasn't the best. I agree with the rest of the comment above though - I had the photographer as the culprit and that he must have done 'something' backstage but not how. I also still like the programme as it is, nothing too gruesome or complex but an easy comfortable way to spend the hour.
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Old 23-01-2016, 19:36
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I seem to recall an interview with her and she said that she does not decide who the murderer is until she writes the "big reveal" and so it is impossible to deduce it as all the clues are false. So until that point it is possible they all did it or none of them did it in equal measure. She then picks a random culprit and goes back and inserts one clue that the deductions rely on.
She also said that she wrote the whole story, then read it back and decided who appeared to be the least likely candidate, before going back and making said candidate the murderer.

That makes working out the killer almost absurdly easy as you simply decide who is the least likely looking and concentrate your attention an anything involving them.

Almost foolproof!
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