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Strictly clash with XF Final
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Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
I'm a fan of the show, but how typical of the BBC to deliberately clash with Saturday's long awaited XF Final. X Factor chose to release the time of all its shows this year, Strictly responded saying the show (xfactor) is on earlier than usual. Yet, i don't know about you, but I've been watching the show for years now and X Factor has always started at 8:00pm. Strictly started at 6:20pm for movie week so i struggle to see their reason for moving it to 6:50pm, resulting in this 30 minute clash.

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ule-clash.html

I know theirs catch up etc, but when it's a December night with the family, you don't really want to keep skipping adverts and bits, do you? (Adverts don't bother me) And i don't want my kids staying up too late. It might of been TXF's fault last year but Strictly has been so ruthless this year, Despite, a widening gap. Why?
Vodka_Drinka
10-12-2015
Is it still 2008? No one watches the X Factor anymore, you do realise that?
David Waine
10-12-2015
The X Factor has trailed Strictly in the ratings for years now. Each couple dances twice this weekend so the show will be longer. Anyone who is that worried about it can watch one and record the other. All it takes is a PVR and there can't be that many homes that don't have one of them by now.
RoseAnne
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“I'm a fan of the show, but how typical of the BBC to deliberately clash with Saturday's long awaited XF Final. X Factor chose to release the time of all its shows this year, Strictly responded saying the show (xfactor) is on earlier than usual. Yet, i don't know about you, but I've been watching the show for years now and X Factor has always started at 8:00pm. Strictly started at 6:20pm for movie week so i struggle to see their reason for moving it to 6:50pm, resulting in this 30 minute clash.

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ule-clash.html

I know theirs catch up etc, but when it's a December night with the family, you don't really want to keep skipping adverts and bits, do you? (Adverts don't bother me) And i don't want my kids staying up too late. It might of been TXF's fault last year but Strictly has been so ruthless this year, Despite, a widening gap. Why?”

Why is it typical of the BBC? Why should they accommodate anything ITV do anyway?
Isn't the X factor final later because ITV showed the rugby? Blame ITV.
I don't watch X Factor but if I did I would definitely record it. All that padding and adverts, why watch them?
Littlegreen42
10-12-2015
X-Factor has been getting worse year on year since 2009, whereas Strictly goes from strength to strength.

These overlaps make no difference.
StrictlyRed
10-12-2015
That article is incorrect anyway. Strictly started at 7 pm in Movie Week, not 6.20pm..
kittenkong42
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“I'm a fan of the show, but how typical of the BBC to deliberately clash with Saturday's long awaited XF Final. X Factor chose to release the time of all its shows this year, Strictly responded saying the show (xfactor) is on earlier than usual. Yet, i don't know about you, but I've been watching the show for years now and X Factor has always started at 8:00pm. Strictly started at 6:20pm for movie week so i struggle to see their reason for moving it to 6:50pm, resulting in this 30 minute clash.

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ule-clash.html

I know theirs catch up etc, but when it's a December night with the family, you don't really want to keep skipping adverts and bits, do you? (Adverts don't bother me) And i don't want my kids staying up too late. It might of been TXF's fault last year but Strictly has been so ruthless this year, Despite, a widening gap. Why?”

I think you may have the Strictly forum confused with the ratings thread?

But if you'd asked there I'd be giving this exact same ratings thread answer - check the times from 2014 and you will see that Strictly aired at 18:50 last year too. So no change by the BBC at all and they are simply maintaining the exact same time slot they always use after Doctor Who has finished airing.

The only reason Strictly airs earlier is to allow the BBC to air Doctor Who and the rest of their schedule at a sensible time. Once that finishes they have always moved Strictly later

So... Once again the BBC get blamed for doing nothing more than continuing to air something exactly where it always was because they should move around to suit ITV
Purple Mango
10-12-2015
Hahahaha " long awaited XF final"
hansue
10-12-2015
Do people still watch XFactor
shrinkingviolet
10-12-2015
'long awaited'?
pugamo
10-12-2015
I've watched this whole series of XF and the final isn't exactly filling me with anticipation.

Strictly wins.
Nina_Blake
10-12-2015
I've only watched it in passing. Louisa seems the most competent performer...I don't know who is the public's favourite though.
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Knew i'd get this, was simply putting it out their. Strictly gets 2.5m more viewers on catch up for shows than X Factor. that's it. Out of a population of 64 million. It's always abusing those who watch anything other than it. It's so stupid. Can i not like BOTH shows without being slated?? They are 9-10m who watch X Factor, and many watch the UK version across the globe on Youtube and on channels like AXS TV in America. You all need to grow up. I guarantee a lot of Strictly viewers also watch X Factor. You may all disagree as you don't want to offend the BBC. Oh and this post wasn't intended to be about the ratings or compare the 2, it was about the way Strictly is trying to harm the show, despite it having a huge advantage over the show. So it perfectly suits this forum.
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Is it still 2008? No one watches the X Factor anymore, you do realise that?”

2010 had higher ratings than 2008, so you're wrong their. And X Factor only stopped winning the ratings in 2012. But as a Strictly fan you don't use the facts do you
StigOfTheKrump
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“That article is incorrect anyway. Strictly started at 7 pm in Movie Week, not 6.20pm..”

Movie week was week three. Musicals week was last week.
Vodka_Drinka
10-12-2015
The X Factor harmed itself by being a manipulated pile of crap. Nowt to do with Strictly.
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“I've watched this whole series of XF and the final isn't exactly filling me with anticipation.

Strictly wins.”

Fair enough but more viewers will watch it than any other episode this series. It's intended to be like that. Strictly has aired 30 minutes earlier before but decides not to. Hm.
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“The X Factor harmed itself by being a manipulated pile of crap. Nowt to do with Strictly.”

Wasn't the BBC and Strictly bombarded with fix comments the other week. then we suddenly had a load of BBC employees defending the show, typical. Almost every show on TV is fixed now, even documentaries, to make them look spectacular.
Vodka_Drinka
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Wasn't the BBC and Strictly bombarded with fix comments the other week. then we suddenly had a load of BBC employees defending the show, typical. Almost every show on TV is fixed now, even documentaries, to make them look spectacular.”

You are Simon Cowel, and I will now claim my prize
tabithakitten
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Knew i'd get this, was simply putting it out their. Strictly gets 2.5m more viewers on catch up for shows than X Factor. that's it. Out of a population of 64 million. It's always abusing those who watch anything other than it. It's so stupid. Can i not like BOTH shows without being slated?? They are 9-10m who watch X Factor, and many watch the UK version across the globe on Youtube and on channels like AXS TV in America. You all need to grow up. I guarantee a lot of Strictly viewers also watch X Factor. You may all disagree as you don't want to offend the BBC. Oh and this post wasn't intended to be about the ratings or compare the 2, it was about the way Strictly is trying to harm the show, despite it having a huge advantage over the show. So it perfectly suits this forum.”

It has been pointed out that Strictly is using the same time slot as it used last year and the same reasoning for this time slot as it has used previously (i.e. it moves to a slightly later slot once the Dr Who series has finished and there's no longer so much to fit in).

Presumably, a little research could have told the X Factor schedulers this and they could have adjusted their own time slots accordingly. Why not blame them? If Strictly is in the same slot as it was last year, they surely could have pre-empted the clash. They're certainly no less to blame than the BBC schedulers - more, if anything.
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“The X Factor has trailed Strictly in the ratings for years now. Each couple dances twice this weekend so the show will be longer. Anyone who is that worried about it can watch one and record the other. All it takes is a PVR and there can't be that many homes that don't have one of them by now.”

Yes they dance twice. But i don't see the reason why they've moved it later despite it being longer. It's an obvious attempt and we do have one. But when i want to watch TV with the whole family but i don't want my kids going to bed too late it makes a difference.
Cestrian18
10-12-2015
BBC showing show at sensible time shocker, it really doesn't clash that much, by the time XF has got the judges on, wheeled off the acts, announced the duet partners and Olly Muts has stopped rattling off voting numbers there'll be an ad break and Strictly will be over so hardly anything will be missed
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“It has been pointed out that Strictly is using the same time slot as it used last year and the same reasoning for this time slot as it has used previously (i.e. it moves to a slightly later slot once the Dr Who series has finished and there's no longer so much to fit in).

Presumably, a little research could have told the X Factor schedulers this and they could have adjusted their own time slots accordingly. Why not blame them? If Strictly is in the same slot as it was last year, they surely could have pre-empted the clash. They're certainly no less to blame than the BBC schedulers - more, if anything.”

Wait, wait a minute. If they have nothing on now because of Doctor Who why does that mean they have to move the show later and not move Casualty earlier, They know what they're doing. X Factor released all their dates and times to avoid this and i don't believe the BBC took one look at it. They haven't even attempted to avoid it, X Factor time slot has always been 8:00pm, and they only moved it slightly because of RWC this year. Why should X Factor avoid the clash when they've had the same stable slot since 2012??? Strictly just changes whenever.
Jake_Greenhall1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Cestrian18:
“BBC showing show at sensible time shocker, it really doesn't clash that much, by the time XF has got the judges on, wheeled off the acts, announced the duet partners and Olly Muts has stopped rattling off voting numbers there'll be an ad break and Strictly will be over so hardly anything will be missed”

It's a quarter of the time length. Not that much though, Okay.
tabithakitten
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Wait, wait a minute. If they have nothing on now because of Doctor Who why does that mean they have to move the show later and not move Casualty earlier, They know what they're doing. X Factor released all their dates and times to avoid this and i don't believe the BBC took one look at it. They haven't even attempted to avoid it, X Factor time slot has always been 8:00pm, and they only moved it slightly because of RWC this year. Why should X Factor avoid the clash when they've had the same stable slot since 2012??? Strictly just changes whenever.”

According to a previous poster, Strictly was in exactly the same slot last year at this time. Presumably it did well. Better than X Factor. And X Factor would have known this. Surely it makes more sense for the one doing better to stay and the one getting beaten to change? If X Factor chose not to do this despite knowing what time slot the equivalent Strictly show aired in last year, that's not Strictly's fault - why should they change what worked in the past?
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