I thought I should point out that the OP only joined Digitalspy in the last month and has created an almost identical thread to this in the X-Factor forum.
Strictly clash with XF Final
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Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Quite a lot of people still do.”
“Quite a lot of people still do.”
Not as many as those watch Countryfile and the antiques roadshow though
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“The X Factor has trailed Strictly in the ratings for years now. Each couple dances twice this weekend so the show will be longer. Anyone who is that worried about it can watch one and record the other. All it takes is a PVR and there can't be that many homes that don't have one of them by now.”
“The X Factor has trailed Strictly in the ratings for years now. Each couple dances twice this weekend so the show will be longer. Anyone who is that worried about it can watch one and record the other. All it takes is a PVR and there can't be that many homes that don't have one of them by now.”
And in the rare event of someone not having a PVR they can watch XF on ITV+1, Channel 33, one hour later. Can there be a person in the land who cannot wait for one hour to watch the XF?
I hate that they clash as I watch both but depending on where my favourite dances it will depend on whether I watch the whole of Strictly or swap at 8.00 to watch X Factor.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“I'm a fan of the show, but how typical of the BBC to deliberately clash with Saturday's long awaited XF Final. X Factor chose to release the time of all its shows this year, Strictly responded saying the show (xfactor) is on earlier than usual. Yet, i don't know about you, but I've been watching the show for years now and X Factor has always started at 8:00pm. Strictly started at 6:20pm for movie week so i struggle to see their reason for moving it to 6:50pm, resulting in this 30 minute clash.
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ule-clash.html
I know theirs catch up etc, but when it's a December night with the family, you don't really want to keep skipping adverts and bits, do you? (Adverts don't bother me) And i don't want my kids staying up too late. It might of been TXF's fault last year but Strictly has been so ruthless this year, Despite, a widening gap. Why?”
“I'm a fan of the show, but how typical of the BBC to deliberately clash with Saturday's long awaited XF Final. X Factor chose to release the time of all its shows this year, Strictly responded saying the show (xfactor) is on earlier than usual. Yet, i don't know about you, but I've been watching the show for years now and X Factor has always started at 8:00pm. Strictly started at 6:20pm for movie week so i struggle to see their reason for moving it to 6:50pm, resulting in this 30 minute clash.
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ule-clash.html
I know theirs catch up etc, but when it's a December night with the family, you don't really want to keep skipping adverts and bits, do you? (Adverts don't bother me) And i don't want my kids staying up too late. It might of been TXF's fault last year but Strictly has been so ruthless this year, Despite, a widening gap. Why?”
SCD gets 11 million viewers and XF gets 6 million viewers.
End of argument.
One is on top form, ine is dying.
PS There is
ITV+1
Catch up.
Recording.
And XF is repeated about six times.
It is dying a slow and painful death, if you look at the X Factor forum, it's full of how awful its been, how the final line up is dull and how quiet the board is.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Wasn't the BBC and Strictly bombarded with fix comments the other week. then we suddenly had a load of BBC employees defending the show, typical. Almost every show on TV is fixed now, even documentaries, to make them look spectacular.”
“Wasn't the BBC and Strictly bombarded with fix comments the other week. then we suddenly had a load of BBC employees defending the show, typical. Almost every show on TV is fixed now, even documentaries, to make them look spectacular.”
The so called Fix was from Orla Johnson who like her husband wants attention as her career fades, the so called fix has been proven wrong now so many times.
A few like to believe the sun but we have seen video of Peters dance off that proved it was all lies.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“2010 had higher ratings than 2008, so you're wrong their. And X Factor only stopped winning the ratings in 2012. But as a Strictly fan you don't use the facts do you”
“2010 had higher ratings than 2008, so you're wrong their. And X Factor only stopped winning the ratings in 2012. But as a Strictly fan you don't use the facts do you”
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Fair enough but more viewers will watch it than any other episode this series. It's intended to be like that. Strictly has aired 30 minutes earlier before but decides not to. Hm.”
“Fair enough but more viewers will watch it than any other episode this series. It's intended to be like that. Strictly has aired 30 minutes earlier before but decides not to. Hm.”
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Yes they dance twice. But i don't see the reason why they've moved it later despite it being longer. It's an obvious attempt and we do have one. But when i want to watch TV with the whole family but i don't want my kids going to bed too late it makes a difference.”
“Yes they dance twice. But i don't see the reason why they've moved it later despite it being longer. It's an obvious attempt and we do have one. But when i want to watch TV with the whole family but i don't want my kids going to bed too late it makes a difference.”
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“It's a quarter of the time length. Not that much though, Okay.”
“It's a quarter of the time length. Not that much though, Okay.”
XF final is bloated, it has just three left in it but runs for two nights and four hours early the only reason is to get Adverts in, Simon himself has called his show shambolic, ITV confirmed, low production values, papers gave had spreads and articles, with headlines exhausted, expired, EX Factor, the ratings have fallen and fallen. To much milking too much crying, even Simon says just karaoke.
ITV published its XF schedules in advance as they were worried the show wasn't performing in 2014 and knew viewers prefer SCD.
But they put XF on Sunday's at 7 pm where SCD results has always been, They chased a clash, they could have shown XF in two parts it from 8 pm to 10 pm.
A year back in a spiteful move they put XF on a Friday at 9 pm when SCD started, on all the ratings have been a success to SCD.
SCD gains viewers from 7 pm , 6.30 is the earliest it can get, many not home from work or shopping then, so forcing it earlier ruins it fir 11 million viewers the majority.
XF is dead, over milked, the talent is from talent scouts not auditions, it's manipulated, it's a pantomime, and the viewers switch off.
Few still defend the ailing XF the papers gave the knives out for it, ITV has purchased The Voice as its replacement, SCD gets the viewers, to be honest I would start SCD at 7 pm, but the BBC are being nice to ITV.
So 6..20 start is too early for the legion of SCD viewers, it boots off the popular Pointless viewed by five million viewers, and cuts rehearsal time and pre recording at SCD, and believe me the XF would still not gain viewers, it's not just that SCD is a good quality show, XF has lost its viewers, there was no clash last week and it still was at 6 million viewers, no ifs no butts XF is dead.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Not as many as those watch Countryfile and the antiques roadshow though”
“Not as many as those watch Countryfile and the antiques roadshow though
”
Countryfile beats XF and Antiques roadshow us close, gaining viewers from the failing XF.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“The so called Fix was from Orla Johnson who like her husband wants attention as her career fades, the so called fix has been proven wrong now so many times.
A few like to believe the sun but we have seen video of Peters dance off that proved it was all lies.”
“The so called Fix was from Orla Johnson who like her husband wants attention as her career fades, the so called fix has been proven wrong now so many times.
A few like to believe the sun but we have seen video of Peters dance off that proved it was all lies.”
Do you mean Ola Jordan?
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“That Tellymix article is hilarious - totally ignoring the fact that, unlike previous weeks, Strictly has to cater for TWO live votes.”
“That Tellymix article is hilarious - totally ignoring the fact that, unlike previous weeks, Strictly has to cater for TWO live votes.”
Two live votes??
Surely that's the following week, for the final. This week is just like any other week with the pre-recorded results show and dance-off being shown on Sunday. The only difference is that they're doing two dances each.
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“The X Factor harmed itself by being a manipulated pile of crap. Nowt to do with Strictly.”
“The X Factor harmed itself by being a manipulated pile of crap. Nowt to do with Strictly.”
I haven't watched X-Factor for a few years now but I believe Strictly is catching it up as a manipulated pile of crap
Originally Posted by MrsGraham:
“Two live votes??
Surely that's the following week, for the final. This week is just like any other week with the pre-recorded results show and dance-off being shown on Sunday. The only difference is that they're doing two dances each.”
“Two live votes??
Surely that's the following week, for the final. This week is just like any other week with the pre-recorded results show and dance-off being shown on Sunday. The only difference is that they're doing two dances each.”
Whoops, sorry.
Got a bit ahead of myself there.
Originally Posted by drakhen:
“I thought I should point out that the OP only joined Digitalspy in the last month and has created an almost identical thread to this in the X-Factor forum.”
“I thought I should point out that the OP only joined Digitalspy in the last month and has created an almost identical thread to this in the X-Factor forum.”
I'm sorry, aren't new member aloud to join the forums page? And in fact I've been trying to for the past 3/4 months and had to report a problem when trying access these forums with Hearst Magazines, And they messaged to say they have sorted my account out. I posted it in both forums because it was aimed at the 2 shows, i do not know of a way to easily add the same forum to both of them as i'm new to this. I'm not an X Factor troll nor Simon Cowell, i was simply stating i do not want to miss X Factor OR Strictly as they're both big episodes this week. I really haven't bothered reading most of the replies as they're besides the point. This wasn't about ratings or which show is better i was just putting it out their that BBC is trying to sabotage the X Factors final and personally i thought that was wrong.
It's a shame, that i couldn't express my own opinion without being bombarded by Strictly only fans. I do not care. Seriously. The fact people are trying to debate and criticize me over a dancing show is pathetic. it wasn't even aimed at Strictly it was aimed at the BBC for the timings of the show. But at least i learnt something, these forums are full of nasty people. You don't like a show, fine. But call me whatever and brand me and my family 'intelligent' for watching a singing show (as i've saw in these forums before), but my opinion will remain stand. Your comments aren't making me hate X Factor in the slightest, but it actually tells me a lot about what kind of people watch Strictly. I'm sure not everybody's like this but i guess if you can stereotype about me than i can do the same.
I will post this in BOTH forums, to get my point across. And no way am i a 'troll' I've wrote plenty of posts but when it's a negative one i'm instantly in the wrong. Thank you, you all seem like wonderful people.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“XF final is bloated, it has just three left in it but runs for two nights and four hours early the only reason is to get Adverts in, Simon himself has called his show shambolic, ITV confirmed, low production values, papers gave had spreads and articles, with headlines exhausted, expired, EX Factor, the ratings have fallen and fallen. To much milking too much crying, even Simon says just karaoke.
ITV published its XF schedules in advance as they were worried the show wasn't performing in 2014 and knew viewers prefer SCD.
But they put XF on Sunday's at 7 pm where SCD results has always been, They chased a clash, they could have shown XF in two parts it from 8 pm to 10 pm.
A year back in a spiteful move they put XF on a Friday at 9 pm when SCD started, on all the ratings have been a success to SCD.
SCD gains viewers from 7 pm , 6.30 is the earliest it can get, many not home from work or shopping then, so forcing it earlier ruins it fir 11 million viewers the majority.
XF is dead, over milked, the talent is from talent scouts not auditions, it's manipulated, it's a pantomime, and the viewers switch off.
Few still defend the ailing XF the papers gave the knives out for it, ITV has purchased The Voice as its replacement, SCD gets the viewers, to be honest I would start SCD at 7 pm, but the BBC are being nice to ITV.
So 6..20 start is too early for the legion of SCD viewers, it boots off the popular Pointless viewed by five million viewers, and cuts rehearsal time and pre recording at SCD, and believe me the XF would still not gain viewers, it's not just that SCD is a good quality show, XF has lost its viewers, there was no clash last week and it still was at 6 million viewers, no ifs no butts XF is dead.”
“XF final is bloated, it has just three left in it but runs for two nights and four hours early the only reason is to get Adverts in, Simon himself has called his show shambolic, ITV confirmed, low production values, papers gave had spreads and articles, with headlines exhausted, expired, EX Factor, the ratings have fallen and fallen. To much milking too much crying, even Simon says just karaoke.
ITV published its XF schedules in advance as they were worried the show wasn't performing in 2014 and knew viewers prefer SCD.
But they put XF on Sunday's at 7 pm where SCD results has always been, They chased a clash, they could have shown XF in two parts it from 8 pm to 10 pm.
A year back in a spiteful move they put XF on a Friday at 9 pm when SCD started, on all the ratings have been a success to SCD.
SCD gains viewers from 7 pm , 6.30 is the earliest it can get, many not home from work or shopping then, so forcing it earlier ruins it fir 11 million viewers the majority.
XF is dead, over milked, the talent is from talent scouts not auditions, it's manipulated, it's a pantomime, and the viewers switch off.
Few still defend the ailing XF the papers gave the knives out for it, ITV has purchased The Voice as its replacement, SCD gets the viewers, to be honest I would start SCD at 7 pm, but the BBC are being nice to ITV.
So 6..20 start is too early for the legion of SCD viewers, it boots off the popular Pointless viewed by five million viewers, and cuts rehearsal time and pre recording at SCD, and believe me the XF would still not gain viewers, it's not just that SCD is a good quality show, XF has lost its viewers, there was no clash last week and it still was at 6 million viewers, no ifs no butts XF is dead.”
Yeah i really can't be bothered to read that. Maybe try replacing the words 'XF' and 'SCD' as they happen to appear a lot in that life story of yours.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Yeah i really can't be bothered to read that. Maybe try replacing the words 'XF' and 'SCD' as they happen to appear a lot in that life story of yours.”
“Yeah i really can't be bothered to read that. Maybe try replacing the words 'XF' and 'SCD' as they happen to appear a lot in that life story of yours.”
Hardly a constructive post, considering the many valid points that A.D.P. was making had you taken the time to read it.
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Hardly a constructive post, considering the many valid points that A.D.P. was making had you taken the time to read it.”
“Hardly a constructive post, considering the many valid points that A.D.P. was making had you taken the time to read it.”
Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.
I also have enjoyed both this year and dont like the fact that there is a clash. XF did publish their shedule before SCD did so I think if SCD moved back to 6.20 this week it would have finshed around 8 so then the x factor would just be starting so those that like both can watch both and turn over to XF imeadatly after SCD. thats what they should have done to make everyone happy and avoid dissapointing some people
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.”
“Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.”
And yet you seem to ignore paragraphs 2 to 5 inclusive, and para 8, paragraphs which make good factual points rather than what you describe as "hate".
Which seems to hint at an agenda, or at the very least a closed mind.
As a number of posters have mentioned, why not start recording X Factor and then catch it up later, missing out the adverts? Or is something to do with social media that you have to watch X Factor absolutely live to the minute?
Originally Posted by RoseAnne:
“As a number of posters have mentioned, why not start recording X Factor and then catch it up later, missing out the adverts? Or is something to do with social media that you have to watch X Factor absolutely live to the minute?”
“As a number of posters have mentioned, why not start recording X Factor and then catch it up later, missing out the adverts? Or is something to do with social media that you have to watch X Factor absolutely live to the minute?”
That's what I'll be doing. You'll have caught up before the end of the show by skipping through the ads!
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.”
“Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.”
Hate?
You're ignoring posters making factual statements about programme scheduling and ratings and claiming they're haters. I'm really not sure these forums are the best place for you if you believe that's hate!
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Yeah i really can't be bothered to read that. Maybe try replacing the words 'XF' and 'SCD' as they happen to appear a lot in that life story of yours.”
“Yeah i really can't be bothered to read that. Maybe try replacing the words 'XF' and 'SCD' as they happen to appear a lot in that life story of yours.”
Well after two duplicate threads, one here one in the XF forum, your post speaks volumes.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.”
“Just had a quick glance at it. And proved exactly why i can't listen to people on this forum. They're so full of hate.”
Strong word.
The people here are a very nice party type of people.
You start a thread which is provocative, and when you do not get the responses you expect, you then use an inappropriate word.
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“I also have enjoyed both this year and dont like the fact that there is a clash. XF did publish their shedule before SCD did so I think if SCD moved back to 6.20 this week it would have finshed around 8 so then the x factor would just be starting so those that like both can watch both and turn over to XF imeadatly after SCD. thats what they should have done to make everyone happy and avoid dissapointing some people”
“I also have enjoyed both this year and dont like the fact that there is a clash. XF did publish their shedule before SCD did so I think if SCD moved back to 6.20 this week it would have finshed around 8 so then the x factor would just be starting so those that like both can watch both and turn over to XF imeadatly after SCD. thats what they should have done to make everyone happy and avoid dissapointing some people”
The thing is:-
If you look at SCD ratings, the earlier it is the lower viewers it gets, so it tells you many people who view it are out early evening. Weekend ratings have been like that for a long time, pre 7 pm is a midfield, and often whatever show is out there doesn't rate well there. SCD has 11 million viewers, so to push it earlier means those at work, or travelling home , will miss the start. Should one show that gets six million viewers bully out a family show that gets eleven million and chop out a million or two who want to see it but are out, maybe working in a shop till 5 pm.
Yes XF put its schedule out early, but why? It was a PR stunt, they knew XF is on its last legs and knew SCD could finish it off.
Note last week and for some weeks there was no clash but XF was still low, no bump up. I fact last week in the sandwich of SCD/XF then I am a celebrity, the other shows rated well either side of XF but XF didn't go up, so people were in but didn't want to watch it, actually pro actively avoiding it.
XF schedule that was produced in advance actually changed some weeks, to 8.15 to avoid SCD why do they not try to avoid it tomorrow, at four hours fir three contestants its bloated and they have had to bring in many acts making it more like top of the pops.
The advance schedule also covered 7 pm Sunday's which has always been SCD results time, They knew it, they aggressively scheduled XF to clash and it lost.
So in summary there are circa 4> 5 million SCD viewers who do not watch XF, so why should they suffer an early start to avoid an ailing show , as ITV bullying boys dictate it.
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