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Results:Which Decade Was The Best For Christmas TV
90's
198 (78.26%)
00's
33 (13.04%)
2010's
22 (8.70%)
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The Official Christmas Radio Times Countdown And Christmas TV Thread 2016
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A.D.P
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Not really. They'll do the job that ITV will hope they'll do. Fill a gap in the schedule and still attract a 2m+ audience.

I'm more fed up with Indiana Jones.”

Wizzywick understand, but 2 million is poor at Christmas, and they could do better.

Indiana was on on weekday afternoons iirc last year instead if daytime shows, and not when the GB public were typically off if work. HP seems to clog up time in peak and weekends when people are off.

As you say they fill a gap, but they could do far better.

There are only four Indiana Jones films, HP has far more, and ITV have over repeated Bridget Jones to death.
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Wizzywick understand, but 2 million is poor at Christmas, and they could do better.

Indiana was on on weekday afternoons iirc last year instead if daytime shows, and not when the GB public were typically off if work. HP seems to clog up time in peak and weekends when people are off.

As you say they fill a gap, but they could do far better. ”

ITV's ad revenue at Christmas is at its lowest. The big shows are what attracts advertisers.
Therefore for ITV to show "safe" movies for just a week and still get a steady audience is more than acceptable. The BBC invests heavily in Christmas because it doesn't need to rely on advertisers. ITV does. What would be the point of ITV showing a massive show that received a low advertising investment and a relatively low audience?
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
I think one highlight this Christmas will be Ethel & Ernest. I love these kind of animations.
JDF
28-11-2016
looking forward to The Last Dragonslayer, - Sky1 xmas day at 6:00 pm
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“ITV's ad revenue at Christmas is at its lowest. The big shows are what attracts advertisers.
Therefore for ITV to show "safe" movies for just a week and still get a steady audience is more than acceptable. The BBC invests heavily in Christmas because it doesn't need to rely on advertisers. ITV does. What would be the point of ITV showing a massive show that received a low advertising investment and a relatively low audience?”

I think its easy to forget that the BBC is a completely different beast to any other channel in the UK.

The BBC don't need to worry about Ad revenue, and therefore can go all out at Christmas.

Its a testament to Lygo that his first Christmas as ITV boss, that is miles better than many of Fincham's who just kept with the same every single bloody year.

How we, the television fantatics long for some unpredictable scheduling, and sticking Blankety Blank in between the ITV soaps certainly is. I have no idea how this will do, which makes it all the more interesting.
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Wizzywick understand, but 2 million is poor at Christmas, and they could do better.

Indiana was on on weekday afternoons iirc last year instead if daytime shows, and not when the GB public were typically off if work. HP seems to clog up time in peak and weekends when people are off.

As you say they fill a gap, but they could do far better.

There are only four Indiana Jones films, HP has far more, and ITV have over repeated Bridget Jones to death.”

But BBC1 are repeating the exact same movies as they showed last year! It seems odd to pick on ITV for doing something BBC1 are doing too. I like the films being shown and if I've seen it, I might not watch it.
Ben96
28-11-2016
We want a Digiuide update! We want a Digiuide update!...
marke09
28-11-2016
Billy Elliott The Musical Live - SKY Arts Christmas Day 5pm
ArtyAttack
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“But BBC1 are repeating the exact same movies as they showed last year! It seems odd to pick on ITV for doing something BBC1 are doing too. I like the films being shown and if I've seen it, I might not watch it.”

Agree. Both channels are guilty of repeating the same movies many times. They still get the ratings.
square_eyes
28-11-2016
Whilst we wait for digiguide to update, here's a quick list of C4 Films over the Christmas period (17 - 30 Dec) so far :

Aliens in the Attic
The Dog Who Saved the Holidays
About a Boy
Scrooged
Cars
Four Christmases
Before I Go to Sleep
12 Dates of Christmas
A Christmas Proposal
Christmas Magic
The Holiday Tree
Space Chimps
Space Chimps 2
Nothing Like the Holidays
Miracle on 34th Street
A Turtle's Tale : Sammy's Adventures
Arthur Christmas
The Muppet Christmas Carol
The Muppet Movie
The Great Muppet Caper
Animals United
Postman Pat : The Movie
The Sword in the Stone
It's a Wonderful Life
Home Alone
Planet 51
Magic in the Water
Spy Kids 4
The Chronicles of Narnia : The Lion, The Witch The Wardrobe
Bandslam
Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen
Stuart Little
Stuart Little 2
Pitch Perfect
Paws
California Man
Dunston Checks In
Vice Versa
Big Miracle
It Came from Beneath the Sea
The Parent Trap
A League of Their Own
Hachi : A Dog's Tale
marke09
28-11-2016
Oh digiuide can be so annoying - they have a billing for stage adaptation of the Railway Children for SKY Arts which was performed in a theatre in 2016 but then it goes onto say that its a made for TV film with subtitles from 2000 certificate U
A.D.P
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“ITV's ad revenue at Christmas is at its lowest. The big shows are what attracts advertisers.
Therefore for ITV to show "safe" movies for just a week and still get a steady audience is more than acceptable. The BBC invests heavily in Christmas because it doesn't need to rely on advertisers. ITV does. What would be the point of ITV showing a massive show that received a low advertising investment and a relatively low audience?”

Yes I understand that but it's actually " chicken and egg" as fir many years ITV hasn't made an effort, Ad revenue is down, ...but there are the most Christmas and new year sakes around, and it's when people start to think about booking summer holidays. If they put on a good show the advertising company's will buy up slots.

It's like Estate agents, financial firms, all saying, we are having Christmas off, as no one comes in, and they didn't last year ( as we took the sane time off), and then say teachers etc who want to buy a house or get a mortgage cent as they are all off on leave.

If what you say is true why bother putting Maigret an expensive drama on Christmas Day when the shops are all closed, bar online.

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“But BBC1 are repeating the exact same movies as they showed last year! It seems odd to pick on ITV for doing something BBC1 are doing too. I like the films being shown and if I've seen it, I might not watch it.”

To be honest, I would love a year free of Mary Poppins or Sound of Music, it was the other poster who turned this discussion into an BBC/ ITV argument with a few comments, more aimed st me personally than addeding value to the thread.

To compare four Indiana Jones films in the afternoons pre Christmas in typically daytime show area Vs double that with HP films typically shown in peak time us oranges Vs Apples.

I haven't seen the full BBC Film schedule so far so can't comment, but know Frozen is on

Funny, on the ratings thread, " The Lion King" has become wonderful since it's transfer from C4 to ITV, and according to some far better than the newer Frozen.

I like both, but I feel Disney Vs Disney is silly, and Frozen Vs Lion King will mean Frozen wins and LK do less than if it was shown at another time when it's not against Frozen.

Note:- I have the LK DVD and seen the live show, and Frozen has a wide following, a ride in Walt Disney World, merchandise sales, a Disney Ship with a live Frozen show that Aldo visits Norway. Both are good, some try to turn this into a BBC/ITV battle.
asjonesuk
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Who on earth would watch Broadchurch on Christmas Day? Especially the next series which is an investgation into a sexual assualt. Not really Christmas Day viewing.”

That's true, I'll be honest I haven't researched what the next series is about.
But - it's not like Call the Midwife or even in some years Downton has exactly been happy, cheery Christmas viewing is it? Not to mention the soaps - which has never had a happy ending type of storyline over the Christmas period.
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Yes I understand that but it's actually " chicken and egg" as fir many years ITV hasn't made an effort, Ad revenue is down, ...but there are the most Christmas and new year sakes around, and it's when people start to think about booking summer holidays. If they put on a good show the advertising company's will buy up slots.

It's like Estate agents, financial firms, all saying, we are having Christmas off, as no one comes in, and they didn't last year ( as we took the sane time off), and then say teachers etc who want to buy a house or get a mortgage cent as they are all off on leave.

If what you say is true why bother putting Maigret an expensive drama on Christmas Day when the shops are all closed, bar online.



To be honest, I would love a year free of Mary Poppins or Sound of Music, it was the other poster who turned this discussion into an BBC/ ITV argument with a few comments, more aimed st me personally than addeding value to the thread.

To compare four Indiana Jones films in the afternoons pre Christmas in typically daytime show area Vs double that with HP films typically shown in peak time us oranges Vs Apples.

I haven't seen the full BBC Film schedule so far so can't comment, but know Frozen is on

Funny, on the ratings thread, " The Lion King" has become wonderful since it's transfer from C4 to ITV, and according to some far better than the newer Frozen.

I like both, but I feel Disney Vs Disney is silly, and Frozen Vs Lion King will mean Frozen wins and LK do less than if it was shown at another time when it's not against Frozen.

Note:- I have the LK DVD and seen the live show, and Frozen has a wide following, a ride in Walt Disney World, merchandise sales, a Disney Ship with a live Frozen show that Aldo visits Norway. Both are good, some try to turn this into a BBC/ITV battle.”

ITV and BBC have competed against each other by showing films that would appeal to the same audience before. It isn't anything new. If people watch Frozen then they'll watch Frozen. If they choose The Lion King, that's called offering a choice.
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by asjonesuk:
“That's true, I'll be honest I haven't researched what the next series is about.
But - it's not like Call the Midwife or even in some years Downton has exactly been happy, cheery Christmas viewing is it? Not to mention the soaps - which has never had a happy ending type of storyline over the Christmas period.”

But the soaps are a bit different, as is CTM. Both are pre-watershed. Broadchurch is going to be more like series 1 in its darker tone.

I suspect if ITV had Broadchurch on Christmas Day it wouldn't reach its full potential, and you'd get millions turning over to BBC1 for MBB.
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
What would you put against Frozen ADP? What would realistically do well for ITV in that slot?

If ITV had Frozen, would you feel BBC1 should not bother with offering choice and just rolling over?

I agree in that Frozen will do well, but I think its better ITV offer choice, instead of just giving up. When they showed the premiere of Tangled they got 3m (17%) against Shrek (I think) with 5-6m.

Then in 2014 and 15, they had factual after The Queen and got low 1m and sub 1m.
Ben96
28-11-2016
Any sign of an update?
square_eyes
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“What would you put against Frozen ADP? What would realistically do well for ITV in that slot?”

It's certainly an improvement on those terrible royal documentaries like the Queens Garden & Camerman to the Queen of recent years.
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“It's certainly an improvement on those terrible royal documentaries like the Queens Garden & Camerman to the Queen of recent years.”

Exactly. And all those docs did was mean ITV's schedule had a much harder time to get going and create traction. Last year Countrywse Winter Wonderland had 1.2m, which was followed by POG Dogs, which itself began with 1.7m having to start from a much mower base against the BBC onslaught. But it grew from under 2m to 4m+.
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Any sign of an update? ”

No. Not looking likely that we'll get one today.
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Any sign of an update? ”

No. Not looking likely that we'll get one today.
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Any sign of an update? ”

Deleted. Duplicate post.
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
Why say it once, when you can say it three times
H of De Vil
28-11-2016
Why say it once when you an say it three times
wizzywick
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Why say it once, when you can say it three times ”

Had slight problems with DS there!
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