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Old 15-01-2016, 22:32
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How could you fix it when it has to be a Sunday?
it would probably become the last Sunday in March or the first in April etc etc
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Old 15-01-2016, 22:33
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How could you fix it when it has to be a Sunday?
Why does it have to be a Sunday?
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Old 15-01-2016, 22:38
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Why does it have to be a Sunday?
did you not go to sunday school? lol i wont get into it now lol
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Old 15-01-2016, 22:40
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it would probably become the last Sunday in March or the first in April etc etc
I've gone on to the Telegraph's Twitter account and it seems that what they actually mean is having it fall in the same week every year. So Easter Sunday itself would still obviously vary. Can't see the point myself.
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Old 15-01-2016, 22:51
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I've gone on to the Telegraph's Twitter account and it seems that what they actually mean is having it fall in the same week every year. So Easter Sunday itself would still obviously vary. Can't see the point myself.
If it was always the first Sunday in April I think that would be fine. But is there a point in changing it? I'm with you on that one. If it is not necessary to change, then it is necessary not to change.
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Old 15-01-2016, 22:56
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If it was always the first Sunday in April I think that would be fine. But is there a point in changing it? I'm with you on that one. If it is not necessary to change, then it is necessary not to change.
Yes, it's not like having it different every year makes it difficult to plan holidays or anything because there are dozens of websites that let you extrapolate the date of Easter for years in advance...
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Old 16-01-2016, 08:32
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Yes, it's not like having it different every year makes it difficult to plan holidays or anything because there are dozens of websites that let you extrapolate the date of Easter for years in advance...
Exactly. Also I'm a little concerned that it will lose its whole Christian tradition of not falling in the Jewish week of passover. I realise that on a few occasions this has already happened but if Jesus was crucified in Passover AND it was during the first full moon following the Spring Equinox, then surely it should remain. I know, as a Christian, why don't we fix the date of Islamic festival of Ramadan? Are people so thick these days that they need everything made really easily for them? Here's a radical idea if you want to know when Easter is, buy a bloody calendar!
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Old 16-01-2016, 10:00
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Exactly. Also I'm a little concerned that it will lose its whole Christian tradition of not falling in the Jewish week of passover. I realise that on a few occasions this has already happened but if Jesus was crucified in Passover AND it was during the first full moon following the Spring Equinox, then surely it should remain. I know, as a Christian, why don't we fix the date of Islamic festival of Ramadan? Are people so thick these days that they need everything made really easily for them? Here's a radical idea if you want to know when Easter is, buy a bloody calendar!
Totally agree. Surprised Pope Francis has suggested he is open to talks on this.
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Old 16-01-2016, 13:17
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Archbishop says it will help schools plan their term times - give me a break - as has been said you can look up the dates for Easter for years in advance and if they can move exams around for one festival then they can work around this
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Old 16-01-2016, 13:19
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Anyway back to the Rt and today i had delivery of the 2016 covers calendar (now £4 off in the RT shop). Got to say im very pleased and surprised by it - much larger than i was expecting and loads of room under the dates to write your own notes or events and it gives milestones of broadcasting also important dates like when certain award ceremonies are

I think i might make this a permanent buy in future years
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Old 16-01-2016, 17:30
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I like it when Easter is in March.

I'd be worried the motivation for fixing it April would be the pursuit of warmer weather.
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Old 16-01-2016, 18:10
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I like it when Easter is in March.

I'd be worried the motivation for fixing it April would be the pursuit of warmer weather.

Put Easter in the last weekend in March and then make St George's Day (April 23rd) a Bank Holiday
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Old 16-01-2016, 18:12
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Put Easter in the last weekend in March and then make St George's Day (April 23rd) a Bank Holiday
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Old 17-01-2016, 00:38
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Is another Agatha Christie story on the cards for this Christmas?

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...098783.article
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Old 17-01-2016, 10:00
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Is another Agatha Christie story on the cards for this Christmas?

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...098783.article
That's great news. In our house, that was one of the gems of the 2015 Christmas schedule.
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Old 17-01-2016, 12:10
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just seen that |War Horse the film is on BBC Two next Saturday
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Old 17-01-2016, 14:06
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just seen that |War Horse the film is on BBC Two next Saturday
Thanks for the heads up. I will record it. A truly fabulous film.
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Old 17-01-2016, 20:49
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I see the public are to choose this years Eurovision Song Contest act on BBC 4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eurovision
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Old 18-01-2016, 13:10
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Put Easter in the last weekend in March and then make St George's Day (April 23rd) a Bank Holiday
Then we get Bank Holidays Late March (2), Late April, Early May and Late May. 5 days in 9 or 10 week, then, just 1 day (late August) between Late May and Christmas.

If we are to get another Bank Hol somewhere it needs to be late Oct/early Nov to spread them out.
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Old 18-01-2016, 13:21
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Exactly. Also I'm a little concerned that it will lose its whole Christian tradition of not falling in the Jewish week of passover. I realise that on a few occasions this has already happened but if Jesus was crucified in Passover AND it was during the first full moon following the Spring Equinox, then surely it should remain. I know, as a Christian, why don't we fix the date of Islamic festival of Ramadan? Are people so thick these days that they need everything made really easily for them? Here's a radical idea if you want to know when Easter is, buy a bloody calendar!
As someone who probably falls in the 'So thick these days they need everything made really easily for them (sic)' brigade, could someone explain the following (which I must admit has puzzled my inadequate mind for years):-
If we must celebrate Christ's birth on the same day, why on earth would you not commiserate his crucifixtion or celebrate his being raised on the same days? The fact that it was passover or full moon is totally irrelvant. So why move it every year?
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Old 18-01-2016, 13:44
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As someone who probably falls in the 'So thick these days they need everything made really easily for them (sic)' brigade, could someone explain the following (which I must admit has puzzled my inadequate mind for years):-
If we must celebrate Christ's birth on the same day, why on earth would you not commiserate his crucifixtion or celebrate his being raised on the same days? The fact that it was passover or full moon is totally irrelvant. So why move it every year?
Its because the churches have failed to agree on when the date should be - so i dont know how Welby thinks after nearly 2000 years he can change the date buit has already said it night take a decade for any agreement
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Old 18-01-2016, 15:05
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As someone who probably falls in the 'So thick these days they need everything made really easily for them (sic)' brigade, could someone explain the following (which I must admit has puzzled my inadequate mind for years):-
If we must celebrate Christ's birth on the same day, why on earth would you not commiserate his crucifixtion or celebrate his being raised on the same days? The fact that it was passover or full moon is totally irrelvant. So why move it every year?
It's not about the actual date. No one knows the actual date, although some scrolls point at a Friday 13th April and others a Friday late in March. It's about the exact timing of His death. He died at approximately 3pm on the Friday of Passover - just hours before the Sabbath. The calendar used in those days was the Roman Calendar - not the gregorian one we use today and as such there were approximately 12 days fewer a year which would also tie in with the "Passover and first full moon" description. To agree on an exact date is impossible because as I say, the calendar was different and different accounts suggest different dates. What is apparently known is that Christ was crucified on the Friday during Passover and died just before the Sabbath started. The moon was the first full moon following the Spring Equinox. That is, in my view, a much more pertinent way of observing Easter than fixing a date just to make it easier for people. Christmas was fixed by the Catholic Church to replace pagan festivals such as Yuletide and it is believed Jesus was actually born in April or September based on theories surrounding conjunctions of planets around the time of Christ's apparent birth. But, rather than try and pinpoint an exact date for Christmas, it replaced Yuletide which is why it is now Christmas - the Mass of Christ inwhich to celebrate His birth. We have a far more accurate period of commemorating His death than we do His birth. We should keep things as they are.
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Old 18-01-2016, 15:05
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Then we get Bank Holidays Late March (2), Late April, Early May and Late May. 5 days in 9 or 10 week, then, just 1 day (late August) between Late May and Christmas.

If we are to get another Bank Hol somewhere it needs to be late Oct/early Nov to spread them out.
Unless you are Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish!

St Andrew's Day, at the end of November, is a public holiday for some employees in Scotland. I like that bank holiday, it signals the start of the Christmas period.
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Old 18-01-2016, 15:11
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Its because the churches have failed to agree on when the date should be - so i dont know how Welby thinks after nearly 2000 years he can change the date buit has already said it night take a decade for any agreement
There have been numerous proposals to agree a common date for Easter - so far as the Christian churches are concerned it is just a question of them agreeing when it should be (if fixed) or how it should be calculated (if movable). Archbishop Welby's comments were made in the light of recent indications from the Catholic and Coptic and Orthodox churches - there are already variations between the date of Easter in Eastern and Western Christian churches which an agreement might overcome. He isn't on about changing the date unilaterally.

The Government could of course do that by simply seeking to pass the Easter Act 1928 into law. That provides for Easter Sunday being the Sunday after the second Saturday in April (ie 9 to 15 April) - effectively the Sunday nearest to the believed historical date of Jesus resurrection.

I don't mind either way but I can see the logic in fixing Easter Sunday as the day after the second Saturday in April for a host of reasons.
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Old 18-01-2016, 16:14
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normally my school use to break up for Easter on the Friday before Good Friday meaning two whole weeks of Easter holidays - this year as Easter is quite early they are not braking up until the Thursday before Good Friday and so are having a week after Easter off but all reverts to norm for 2017
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