That is the whole point of a 'Dance Off' which a lot of people seem to be missing.

It's supposed to be a direct comparison between the two parties involved. If the judges were going on who was the best overall dancer there would be no need for a dance off in the first place.

On this occasion Katie's waltz was better than Anita's ropey Salsa.

You appear to be confusing your OPINION with fact.

I think both Anita and Katie have both done very well, I think Anita does some dances better and Katie does some better... for whatever reason Anita "salsa" was not very good that lacked salsa steps. Its a bit difficult to judge someone on a dance if they don't do the dance. I saw some very clunky back and front, some decidedly dodgy side basic and a few very poorly formed opens. The rest of it was Gleb throwing her around. For that reason alone she lost the dance off.

I really don't understand why people so worked up about these things.

I think Len's comment was odd and ill-judged - like a backhand slap to Craig who thought Anita was better. I think he did it to sort of ward off controversy -- like, "Nothing to see here - it was down to me and I didn't think they were even close" (not that he explains what that means, but we're supposed to sort of feel that he's our head teacher or something and what he says should be the "final word")

They're really coming a bit unglued this season, what with Ola's interview and putting her on suspension - then the big send-off with never one word about why she's leaving. It's kinda fun to see them scrambling around trying to tread softer on the manipulation (but not really succeeding because they have no intention of changing how they do things - they don't trust this show to just proceed without massive micro management).

Not forgetting the awful "in da house" style jumping and arm-waving at the start (the start which should set the tone for the rest of the dance)

I missed the official announcement that she was suspended. Or was that simply an unsourced internet forum rumour?


Are you referring to the long ITT guest segment yesterday where she spoke about her time on the show?

I think you need to re check a lot of your facts there, many mistakes.

My point is that just because he didn't say "and my reason for this is" doesn't mean he didn't give a reason. He said it wasn't close - which very obviously means that he thought Katie was much better than Anita in the dance-off. That is his reason for putting her through, that he, in his subjective judging of the dance-off, thought she gave a better performance.

That's why I'm so confused at all this furore about him not giving a reason, when if you give it half a second's thought his reason is very clear.


That in itself makes it even more clear what his reason is - yes, he scored them 7 and 8 on the live show, but then switched the ranking in the dance-off, so clearly he thought Katie out-danced Anita. Just because he didn't say it in those exact words doesn't mean it can't be deduced.

So no, it's not a fact that he didn't give a reason. The only fact is that he didn't say "my reason is", meaning that in order to deduce his reason a little bit of thought engagement is required. It's not speculation though, because the ordinary meaning of his words is entirely clear.

that was so not anita - but what could she have done? i don't imagine its possible to tell a pro (like gleb) you don't want to do what they (the expert) are suggesting for you. i get the impression this in part accounts for her throwing herself into everything in the way she did - there was really no other choice but to go with it. poor anita.

Yeah but getting a totally unworkable piece of music in the semi-finals, when the judges are making no excuses is an entirely different level of screwed to getting a dodgy piece of music in Week 6 when you still have 4 duffers below you on the Leaderboard.

I have no idea how I would have choreographed a salsa to that Pitbull song. The fundamental salsa beat - 123, 567 was missing. There was no salsa rhythm and the speed was ridiculous. Yes - he could have gotten rid of all the acrobatics. But I've no idea what he would have replaced it with. It still wouldn't have been anything like a Salsa.

Any pro would have struggled - massively - with that music. I'd be intrigued to see how some people would have responded if a better-liked pro, say Giovanni or Aljaz - or god forbid Aliona - had been given bleeding Pitbull to Salsa to.

Weren't we told by another pro (I think it was Brendan, or was it Tristan?) that the pros have a hand in choosing the music. So isn't it still Gleb's fault?

Here's a thing. Anita and Gleb were in the bottom two. They may have been right at the bottom. So clearly the public didn't like their dances either!

Other Pro's manage, Kevin and Brendan immediately spring to mind.

There has been NO FIX at all this or any series, some are too gullible to tabloid press reports. Yes there are loyal supporters of each celebrity and their upset when they go. But this " proven untrue" fix claim is damaging the reputations of fine performers and will put off good celebrities performing next year, which is the tabloids intend to damage SCD and therefore damage the BBC, every thread opened on this subject here plays into the newspapers campaign, pity a few can't actually see that.

Yes, I cannot disagree with that. She did say afterwards they they (i.e. both she & Gleb) thought that it would be a risk, but decided to go ahead with it anyway.

In the dance off his is the final word