Bravo to that post . Its sad when people say but they do a different type of music so it's great but completely ignore they do that genre a complete injustice . They were poor at it and because it's current or edgy doesn't mean that they were a good example of it . They were poor at it and as for being stitched up for the winners song the "stitching up " they benefitted from getting them to the final far outweighs any they got against them in the final

The X Factor misses a trick with that. Instead of having a winner, that final two acts should both get to release their winner's song, and they can go head to head in the charts, like the good old days of chart battles.

Actually you may not like Bob Dylan's voice but the man can sing unlike these 2 clowns

I did not know that.

Are you saying you believe it was fixed, because Louisa's performances had the benefit of auto tune and other contestants did not?

Don't tell me - you haven't given that one much thought either.

Exactly right - they were shown to have absolutely no basic singing ability. None at all! They seem like nice guys and good luck to them, but seriously, they were like two random people plonked on the stage and told to sing. They didn't even sing in time with each other! Very embarrassing.

Their other performances were weak to me as well, I don't like rapping and those sort of chanting songs (I like to move it, move it for example), but I can see that there is some talent involved for the performers of that music, but R&B were a very poor representation of that genre.

As for the actual winners song, I hadn't heard it before but I did not like it. It was not an appropriate song for the 2 guys, nor for Louisa - she should have been given something more suitable for a young woman hoping to become a pop star - not that dreary dirge. I can't imagine it will do as well as other winners singles. Who would ever want to hear it again?

What would the point be of giving anything to do with the Xfactor any serious thought.

Tell us more about the blatant bias and manipulation....


It would have been chosen weeks ago. Good singers should be able to sing anything well.


You just made that up


Only if millions of people are as obsessed with conspiracy theories as you seem to be.

To be honest Forever Young would have suited any of the top 5 except for Reggie N Bollie, I can see why Simon picked that song, maybe he thought Reggie N Bollie would have gone out after they made the live shows

They were lucky to get this far, the judges have been very kind to them over the weeks. I'm a cynic when it comes to this show but some people really take it too far.

The winners single was chosen in advance, one song and I'm sure it's been the same every year. It would be pretty ridiculous of them to pick some cheesy hip hop/reggae song when there was only one act in the show that performed in that style. I do think they should give them different songs for the winners single but they never do that.

Plus the voting statistics show she was pretty much already the winner before the final song so it wouldn't really have made much of a difference.

It's to do with the rights and time it takes for this to clear; the winner's song was chosen about five weeks ago and I expect as it is every year SyCo are only willing to shell out for one song.

In the X Factor vaults somewhere is the Eoghan Quigg version of Hallelujah, after all.

It was a boring and rubbish choice for any of the winners ... they get judges like Rita Ora and Nick Grimshaw and then feed us songs that are not wanted by the that generation. Who on earth thought it was a good idea to partner Che with Rod Stewart - it was mental and boring.

Thing is looking at the voting stats once they new Reggie and Bolle where heading to the final they could have allowed two differen songs to be chosen - had they chosen one of Reggie and Bollies songs for Louisa she couldnt have done it. Of course Louisa was the better singer and should have won the show - but they completely humiliated those men - the audience was shocked, their supporters were not even waving their posters, the judges gave up, the boys looked heartbroken and couldnt say anything without looking ungreatful - it was just awful to watch and it could have been prevented unless Simon thought we where all so dumb that we'd actually let them win.

Reggie N Bollie and their fans have known this would be the winners song for weeks now, so maybe the shock was they actually weren't that good singers

That song shouldn't have been out of anyones comfort zone. It was just a slower song, and I imagine not very difficult for any singer to manage as long as they can sing!

if bob dylan can do it justice then someone hoping to win a tv talent show should be able to

disclaimer : i am more than aware of bob dylan's place in music, he is a fantastic songwriter and to me has more credibility in his little finger than anyone to have ever appeared on the x factor, but his vocals were not his strong point

because it's always been that both finalists have the same song to sing, though only the winner gets to release it.

If they were given a different song to sing, it'd be admitting to everyone that they're not a good as everybody else, and need to be given a song in a very limited range genre!

I notice the judges weren't able to say anything to them about the song they'd just sung, and had to have one of them speak about how grateful they were as a time filler!

No it hasn't Matt Cardle, Rebecca Ferguson, Cher Lloyd and 1D all had different winners songs in their series. James Arthur and Jahmene had different songs as well a did Sam Bailey, Nicholas and Luke Friend in theirs.

Agree.

They were very awkward, though it's even more awkward to read some of the posts of the RnBs fans.....making it sound like it was unfair they be given a song to actually sing rather than to just jump around and shout to....
I actually quite like the song (louisas version!) but out of curiousity I listened to bob dylans version on youtube today. Not a great fan of his, though I know some of his songs etc and know what a great presence he's always had in the music world. BUT when I heard it on youtube today, I couldn't believe how bad he sounded....not sure if he was drunk or on drugs or what, but he was more whiny than he normally always was....

ok if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but how can this be the first year they have the same song to sing. Last year I'm sure they had the same song to sing, and also the year when the winners single was distant dreamer....

I remember hearing two versions of that song and remember thinking that neither was as good as Duffy.

There was only one version of Distant Dreamer and that was Rebecca's Matt who won that series had When We Collide.

Most of the previous series has had the same winners songs though. Only 3 had different songs. But it does show that they can be fair when they want to and that it is possible.

Weak vocals have never stopped people winning before. Who was that Scottish boy with the puppy dog eyes - never heard him stay in tune from the auditions to the final, but he still won.

I think Reggie and Bollie should be thankful the producers never asked them to actually sing prior to the finals. I'm sure the other contestants would have loved to play to their strengths week after week without criticism, to have huge numbers of dancers and backing singers doing the hard work for them, to always receive favourable slots in the running order and receive unanimous praise from the judges week after week for doing very little.

I think it would have been a step too far to go and change the song to suit their complete inability to sing in tune. They had had more than enough help to get them that far.

I thought it was a very strange arrangement of the song, which didn't even work for Louisa, even though she is a strong singer. I like the song, but not arranged the way they had done it. Made it sound like a dirge, and it is far from that.

Rhydian's version sounds completely different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3gBKCIC3M

i must be in a real minority here as i thought her performance of it last night was her best of the series , it was the first time imo she got close to staying in control throughout and it was only at the very end when she pushed for the big note, which really wasn't needed

its one of these things that always confuses me about alot of contestants on this show that they seem to think they have to finish a song on a real power note whether the song suits it or not

I would never be daft enough to support someone who couldn't sing


I confess that I am only interested in good singing


I guess that's why she was an ideal mentor for them





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