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The Leona Lewis Appreciation Thread (Part 62)
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butlerny
29-12-2015
Originally Posted by d56:
“I do see Twitter. I run a Twitter fan page for Leona and I see how many RT's and likes she gets compared to other pop stars...”

to be honest I dont have time to keep comparing to other acts, Leonas my passion
d56
29-12-2015
Happy Birthday Soe
katieknolwes
29-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jack_Clarke2:
“I think run has sold more worldwide which ain't included”

Especially in Germany
Soeplepel
29-12-2015
Originally Posted by d56:
“Happy Birthday Soe ”

Thank you

Originally Posted by katieknolwes:
“Especially in Germany”

I wish there was a website that let us see the sales in each country until now
NewDay
29-12-2015
I remember Leona mentioning years ago, it was a choice between Chasing Cars and Run to do as a cover.

I can't help but think what Leona's take on Chasing Cars would have been like. Every time I hear it on the radio, I try and picture Leona singing it.

Anyway, I found these two takes on the song, which is what I could imagine the structure of the song would have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm4GNxTANDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tycobwR-4Y
Soeplepel
29-12-2015
Originally Posted by NewDay:
“I remember Leona mentioning years ago, it was a choice between Chasing Cars and Run to do as a cover.

I can't help but think what Leona's take on Chasing Cars would have been like. Every time I hear it on the radio, I try and picture Leona singing it.

Anyway, I found these two takes on the song, which is what I could imagine the structure of the song would have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm4GNxTANDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tycobwR-4Y”

Chasing Cars, Run and Human
John_Messenbird
29-12-2015
After reading a few posts on this thread it seems like the ongoing problem is still haunting Leona's career, promotion! It seems like all the popstars careers exist due to promotion. Even a late night movie I watched on TV last night called 'Telstar' about a British record producer/promoted Joe Meek, this was in the early 60's long before Twitter, Facebook and the internet, but they still went out of their way to promote the music. Look at this film it looked like everything at first was doom to failure. This is a true story as the Telstar hit became the first British record top the US Billboard Chart, this was before The Beatles.

Sorry Bunnies going on a bit, back to Leona!

You see even half a century ago promotion was a major part of pop music, why do they feel different about Leona Lewis?

With all this secrecy about Leona Lewis' music releases will we (The bunnies!) become a "SECRET' society ('ECHO"ing the Freemasons), going behind closed doors and standing in sand making 'FOOTPRINTS IN THE SAND' as we dance to Leona's music. Will we need to do some kind of 'Bunny ears greeting' with our fingers on both sides of the head to recognise fellow fans. Mind you if you play Adele or Ed Shering on your phone whilst outside, don't worry most people will think you are just another member of the public in town.
Last edited by John_Messenbird : 29-12-2015 at 22:03
Soeplepel
29-12-2015
Promo cost money, if it was free I bet the label had her on every show. Defjam did an amazing job, but after 5 years of silence it's obvious that it really takes a hit to sell lots in the US. Leona was the first to top US charts in 20 years with Bleeding Love, so to crack the US you'll really need a good song.

Island started out really strong, I really think they expected more from FUMF hence they spent most of the budget at the start of the era.

Let's also not forget they didn't have millions to spend on Leona. They know where her career was at before they signed her
John_Messenbird
29-12-2015
Originally Posted by NewDay:
“I remember Leona mentioning years ago, it was a choice between Chasing Cars and Run to do as a cover.

I can't help but think what Leona's take on Chasing Cars would have been like. Every time I hear it on the radio, I try and picture Leona singing it.

Anyway, I found these two takes on the song, which is what I could imagine the structure of the song would have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm4GNxTANDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tycobwR-4Y”

I have to agree with you, to me the Cinematic Pop (first video) does sound like the musical arrangement on Spirit, especially the opening piano solo and on the Nick Pitera (second video) his vocal style is very much like Leona's.
Virtuoso
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by NewDay:
“I remember Leona mentioning years ago, it was a choice between Chasing Cars and Run to do as a cover.

I can't help but think what Leona's take on Chasing Cars would have been like. Every time I hear it on the radio, I try and picture Leona singing it.

Anyway, I found these two takes on the song, which is what I could imagine the structure of the song would have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm4GNxTANDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tycobwR-4Y”

I remember she also mentioned The Pretender by Foo Fighters, which I'm glad she didn't pick.
Gobstopper13
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by John_Messenbird:
“After reading a few posts on this thread it seems like the ongoing problem is still haunting Leona's career, promotion! It seems like all the popstars careers exist due to promotion. Even a late night movie I watched on TV last night called 'Telstar' about a British record producer/promoted Joe Meek, this was in the early 60's long before Twitter, Facebook and the internet, but they still went out of their way to promote the music. Look at this film it looked like everything at first was doom to failure. This is a true story as the Telstar hit became the first British record top the US Billboard Chart, this was before The Beatles.

Sorry Bunnies going on a bit, back to Leona!

You see even half a century ago promotion was a major part of pop music, why do they feel different about Leona Lewis?

With all this secrecy about Leona Lewis' music releases will we (The bunnies!) become a "SECRET' society ('ECHO"ing the Freemasons), going behind closed doors and standing in sand making 'FOOTPRINTS IN THE SAND' as we dance to Leona's music. Will we need to do some kind of 'Bunny ears greeting' with our fingers on both sides of the head to recognise fellow fans. Mind you if you play Adele or Ed Shering on your phone whilst outside, don't worry most people will think you are just another member of the public in town.”

I think the reasons for Leona's career stalling in the past and her not being as successful as she could have been with Echo, Glassheart was largely down to Syco mishandling her promo, release strategy etc.

However, I think it's not 100% correct to say that lack of promo is the reason I Am hasn't been successful. She got a decent amount of promo/playlisting for FUMF in uk and Thunder in US but there are bigger issues at play now. Mainly the material not being right (still no standout hit) and the general public/radio just not being interested in her new music.

Promo is only effective if she has a hit to promote and if people are interested. The problem now is that tv and radio think nobody cares about her new material so are less likely to book her during crowded release periods, unless of course she is performing Bleeding Love or Run for a special event.

I hope it clicks for Leona next album and she can achieve some level of commercial success again.
fallendancer
30-12-2015
Full performance of Bleeding Love with an introduction during 1989 tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZi9F4PbSSM
I'm so proud how people react to Leona here.
And when she does "EVERYONE TO SEE" people started screaming (me too because she didn't do it for a while now) .

She has so much potential. I pray for great collaborations with other high profile artist during first half of 2016 (at least two) with an album release later in the year. There's lot of work ahead for Leona and her team as well if they wanna turn this in the right way. But it can be done.
hazza12
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by fallendancer:
“Full performance of Bleeding Love with an introduction during 1989 tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZi9F4PbSSM
I'm so proud how people react to Leona here.
And when she does "EVERYONE TO SEE" people started screaming (me too because she didn't do it for a while now) .

She has so much potential. I pray for great collaborations with other high profile artist during first half of 2016 (at least two) with an album release later in the year. There's lot of work ahead for Leona and her team as well if they wanna turn this in the right way. But it can be done. ”

Love that video! The love for her is incredible. I hope Taylor releases an actual video of the duet like she has done with Mary j bilge
Envoirment
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by fallendancer:
“Full performance of Bleeding Love with an introduction during 1989 tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZi9F4PbSSM
I'm so proud how people react to Leona here.
And when she does "EVERYONE TO SEE" people started screaming (me too because she didn't do it for a while now) .

She has so much potential. I pray for great collaborations with other high profile artist during first half of 2016 (at least two) with an album release later in the year. There's lot of work ahead for Leona and her team as well if they wanna turn this in the right way. But it can be done. ”

I don't think she's even done 1 high profile collab yet, so 2 in early 2016 is highly unlikely, especially with tour prep going on.

All Leona needs is radio friendly singles. It's that simple really. The promotion by Def Jam has been spot on, so with that promo and a radio-friendly song, she could do well again in the US.

In terms of the UK, radio-friendly singles are also what she needs. Release one with the promo Island provided "Fire Under My Feet" and she should do well too. Although I'd rather the song become a success in the US first so there's a higher chance it'll get airplay in the UK.
butlerny
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by fallendancer:
“Full performance of Bleeding Love with an introduction during 1989 tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZi9F4PbSSM
I'm so proud how people react to Leona here.
And when she does "EVERYONE TO SEE" people started screaming (me too because she didn't do it for a while now) .

She has so much potential. I pray for great collaborations with other high profile artist during first half of 2016 (at least two) with an album release later in the year. There's lot of work ahead for Leona and her team as well if they wanna turn this in the right way. But it can be done. ”

its such an amazing performance and leona is so comfortable..her voice needs big arenas to fully appreciate it cant wait for the video and she sang those parts with such ease and stronger! ...I really think leona has been training her voice and especially with I Am..she had to hit notes from harder angles so to speak and the more she sings them the stronger she gets..what a performance!
James124
30-12-2015
Does anyone know if the cover will be released or was it scraped?
X_UltimateBun_X
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by fallendancer:
“Full performance of Bleeding Love with an introduction during 1989 tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZi9F4PbSSM
I'm so proud how people react to Leona here.
And when she does "EVERYONE TO SEE" people started screaming (me too because she didn't do it for a while now) .

She has so much potential. I pray for great collaborations with other high profile artist during first half of 2016 (at least two) with an album release later in the year. There's lot of work ahead for Leona and her team as well if they wanna turn this in the right way. But it can be done. ”

Her F5 was so strong there but , I think this is one of the main performances where you can see the quite drastic change in her voice. You can mainly hear it on the verses, particularly the "closed off from love" and the chorus: "I don't care what they say". When I was watching her 2013 performance on the Glassheart Tour, she still had that signature smoothness and sounded amazing. I wonder what happened from then until now 💭 She still sounds amazing though just ... different.
DamienS
31-12-2015
Originally Posted by fallendancer:
“Full performance of Bleeding Love with an introduction during 1989 tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZi9F4PbSSM
I'm so proud how people react to Leona here.
And when she does "EVERYONE TO SEE" people started screaming (me too because she didn't do it for a while now) .

She has so much potential. I pray for great collaborations with other high profile artist during first half of 2016 (at least two) with an album release later in the year. There's lot of work ahead for Leona and her team as well if they wanna turn this in the right way. But it can be done. ”

That's how the X factor final should have gone!

She is always styled really well in her USA performances! She needs to ditch her styling team in the uk as she looks so much better here
DamienS
31-12-2015
Originally Posted by X_UltimateBun_X:
“Her F5 was so strong there but , I think this is one of the main performances where you can see the quite drastic change in her voice. You can mainly hear it on the verses, particularly the "closed off from love" and the chorus: "I don't care what they say". When I was watching her 2013 performance on the Glassheart Tour, she still had that signature smoothness and sounded amazing. I wonder what happened from then until now 💭 She still sounds amazing though just ... different.”

It's Deffo different. It doesn't sound quite so effortless does it? She sounded good but I agree with what you say. I guess age plays a part!
uslelelover
31-12-2015
Originally Posted by Envoirment:
“I don't think she's even done 1 high profile collab yet, so 2 in early 2016 is highly unlikely, especially with tour prep going on.

All Leona needs is radio friendly singles. It's that simple really. The promotion by Def Jam has been spot on, so with that promo and a radio-friendly song, she could do well again in the US.

In terms of the UK, radio-friendly singles are also what she needs. Release one with the promo Island provided "Fire Under My Feet" and she should do well too. Although I'd rather the song become a success in the US first so there's a higher chance it'll get airplay in the UK.”

Fire Under My Feet was very radio friendly and would have done well in the US. I don't see her ever doing very well on UK radio again outside of Christmas music unless she first gets a hit in the US which is possible, but Thunder was sh*t and they should have stuck with FUMF.
Dave0893
31-12-2015
I personally would be thrilled if the focus next year was collabs and she became a 'hook girl' while they record an album.

She needs reintroduced, people aren't checking for her music anymore so there needs to be a name before hers to peak interest with radio and people. Features can open you up to larger audiences.

I hope they can hook her up with some people and also help do a mini push on Catch Me When I Fall. Basically help DJ Poet get it out to radio and pushed on streaming ie New Music playlists on Spotify etc. I don't think it's a hit single and don't think radio will be that interested, but it will reach at least some audience and help bridge the gap. Plus it's different for Leona.
butlerny
31-12-2015
Originally Posted by DamienS:
“It's Deffo different. It doesn't sound quite so effortless does it? She sounded good but I agree with what you say. I guess age plays a part!”

I think her voice has matured and become stronger, the everyone to see part she used to screech now it sounded fuller, so leonas voice has gained more control...
Fellen
31-12-2015
Happy New Year Everyone from Vietnam!
Envoirment
31-12-2015
Originally Posted by uslelelover:
“Fire Under My Feet was very radio friendly and would have done well in the US. I don't see her ever doing very well on UK radio again outside of Christmas music unless she first gets a hit in the US which is possible, but Thunder was sh*t and they should have stuck with FUMF.”

Not really, it certainly wasn't the kind of song that big mainstream radio networks like heart/capital would play. "Thunder" was alright, but I wish they would have pushed "Ladders"/"Another Love Song" too. "Fire Under My Feet" sounded a bit dated really and the structure of the song was too disjointed to work properly on radio.

Plus the live performances of the song didn't give the song much of a boost - so it didn't connect very well that way (and live performances usually give Leona big boosts compared to most).

Leona needs songs like "Another Love Song"/"Glassheart"/"One More Sleep" to be released. Radio-ready singles which blend into the current music scene but stand out due to her voice and perhaps certain influences in the song (ALS's garage sound).

And Leona could quite easily have a hit in the UK, but time and time and time again the wrong singles are chosen and the most radio ready singles are skipped (Outta My Head/Glassheart/Come Alive/Ladders/Another Love Song etc).
pokerfaceLele
31-12-2015
I hope Leona will come up with unconventional song concepts for the next album. Most songs on I am are simply structured. I would love to hear more songs which include verses, a bridge before the chorus, a chorus consisting of "two" parts rather than a simple melody line, and a totally different bridge before the last chorus.
Songs that build up to a climax and take you on a journey, like "Stay".
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