Agree. I'm fed up with everyone saying how much Katie improved. There was a very slight improvement. The dance was still bobbins.

I'm talking about the DO version, not the dance on the night. She fixed the mistakes she made during the show in the DO.

And it still beats Anita not doing a salsa at all and doing a showdance instead.

She was better than the first time.

And her dance was significantly and OBVIOUSLY better than Anita's not salsa.

Not only as a dance but in the performance of the dance.

And Len was right to point that out.

The Waltz is NOT an easier dance at the level she danced it, and Anita barely DID a salsa move. And the few she did were crap.

Bullshit. The show is fixed against Katie. Kellie(who the show is extremely fixed for in recent weeks) was over marked to keep her out of bottom last week where she should have been.

it wasn't OBVIOUSLY better because then why did Craig save Anita. It is much easier to do a waltz where you are in hold than a dance where your're out of hold.

If it wasn't better, why did Darcey, Bruno AND Len save Katie?

That logic cuts both ways.

Because it was not a salsa.

And the waltz is capable of being easy or not so easy.

And someone who knows can easily see that.

And Craig voted AGAINST the do rules, because he loves the 'flash'.

~And he is ONE JUDGE, and there are four.

~Thus, in my opinion and that of the JUDGES, it was obvious.

So why do a few here not believe. " honest people" and prefer to believe a tabloid published by a tarnished group, who were in court over hacking .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35099897

The truth is here.

Anton Du Beke and Katie Derham deny Strictly Come Dancing 'fix'

Strictly Come Dancing's Anton Du Beke and his dance partner Katie Derham have hit back at claims that the show's judges "helped" them into the final.
Du Beke told Chris Evans on BBC Radio 2 it was "impossible" the show is fixed.
Proms presenter Derham added: "Chris, like you I've worked for the BBC for a very long time. That sort of stuff just doesn't, cannot, wouldn't happen."
Some newspapers have reported that fans were angry after the judges saved Katie and Anton and removed Anita and Gleb.
The Sun's headline read: "Strictly Conned Dancing". The paper added that viewers claimed "producers used dry ice to disguise Katie's poor footwork" and the judges unfairly saved him so he could dance in the final.

Speaking on Radio 2, Derham said there were "too many people [at the BBC] keeping an eye on all the Ts being crossed and the Is being dotted. And also, can I just say, how can it be fixed when it's mostly the public voting?"
Du Beke added: "Forget it. Forget it. It's impossible!"


He said the dance-off is "judged on the dance that you put in front of the judges".
He added: "That's the moment when they've got to go, and the dance-off went well. There were no mistakes."
Du Beke and Derham were up against journalist and presenter Anita Rani and Gleb Savchenko in Sunday's dance-off. Although Rani and her partner had a higher combined score for their two semi-final dances, they lost out.
Anita Rani and Gleb Savchenko performed a salsa and earned 32 points, as well as another 32 for their foxtrot.
Du Beke and Derham danced a waltz in the dance-off as it had scored 31 points, beating their Charleston from the same show, which earned them 25 points and put them at the bottom of the leader board.
Bruno Tonioli said of their waltz: "All errors have been erased from my memory."
Head judge Len Goodman said: "I'm just judging this on this one dance. Nothing that's been, nothing that could be in the future or in the final, on this one dance. It was totally clear - Katie and Anton."

Footnote.

Stop buying The Sun whilst these made up lies continue.

People on this forum were trying say that Katie's Waltz was OBVIOUSLY BETTER than Anita's salsa. I saying it's not obvious enough because Craig saved Anita.
I am also sure that If Anita had been saved in the DO then all these threads saying that the judges fixed it would not be appearing.

That's an opinion, not a fact. Regardless, Katie did a decent Waltz and Anita did a crap Salsa.

Some groups of fans are really spoiling the forum this year. You can be a fan and recognise that the person isn't infallible. There's a difference between being a fan and the mindless worship of a person. It's a little scary at times.

Oh YES THEY WOULD.

Seriously.

Panto season aside. I'd have been furious. That Salsa was ghastly and wrong.

I'm not the only one that understands anything about dance either, even among those that don't, most could see that it was not only bloody awful, but not a salsa.

1/ Craig voting a different way proves no fix, no instructions how to vote, they choose.

2/ each judge looks at different ways, before the DO I said to my son, Len will not vote for Anita as he looks at traditional dance steps, not modern moves.

Bruno looks at performance and timing.

Crisis is picky but swayed if the performance is original and he gets pulled in. He will rule out illegal lifts and looks at hand shape and footwork.

Darcy, is the nice judge, performance and hard work first, but shape and hold and extensions.

Hence different viewpoints, different scores. Craig is rather hard, the others a bit too soft.

Footnote.

Stop buying The Sun whilst these made up lies continue.[/quote]


IMO every paper lies and I will continue to by the Sun just like many other people in Country do in fact more than other Paper in the UK.

I think it would have been just you. Why should Anita be voted off because of the bad cheography when their have been previous series where the judges have ignored the cheography and just voted on how well they danced the steps.

Keep the faith. Don't drink the Koolaid.

She 'danced' what few steps there were poorly too.

She flung herself around pretty well though.

And past bloody awful judgements, don't make a good one here unacceptable.

Just because they've done it in the past doesn't mean it was right for them to do it in the past. I seem to recall they also got a huge blasting from the public for it, too.

Also, that was then and this is now.

Sometimes they are lenient and sometimes they aren't. The judges can only mark what they see though.

Kellie thoroughly deserved her place at the top of the leaderboard because she was the best on the night. But don't let facts get in the way of your obvious bias against her.

An earlier comment was correct. Some groups of rabid fans are ruining SCD this year - and I for one am sick and tired of it.

It's about time everyone grew up and started acting like adults rather than small, spoiled children whose favourite toy has just been taken away from them.

They are lenient with celebs that the like and not lenient with with celebs they dislike. The judges need to stop being so biased and treat all the celebs the same.

Well it's not just on here that most are appalled at the result, every article I've read the comments are flooded with support for Anita.

Anita knew the judges were gonna boot her off, the public are the ones that have been behind her and seeing how hard she was working - the undermarking all series has been disgusting!

If you look at the final line-up, it's all predictably safe an pristine, almost as if it were predetermined. Shame as this series has been brilliant.

3rd attempt at this message, my isp keeps cutting me off, maybe it is every time i mention 'that newspaper' Anyway, my local shop is trying to give them away, without much success. I read the story about A&K getting help from the 'smoke' screening katies feet. oh well.......
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Hah it posted ok. Mention of THE SUN seemed to upset my isp.

If the public were behind her, how come she ended up in the bottom two?

Thank God the rest of the country weren't like this when the Olympics were on. 'Wah! We was robbed! Wah! The judges were biased! Wah! It was a Fix! Wah! Wah! Wah!'

Save your outrage for something important. This is not.

Exactly.

I think this year has been disappointing in terms of standard. Jay hasn't lived up to expectations and Helen had a lot of weaknesses. In another year, Anita wouldn't have lasted this long.

Why didn't the " floods" of support for Anita, vote for her?

The claims of a fix are made up by tabloids with an agenda.

Judges points with only 5 people, she could have been second or third in the votes and still been in the DO.

and who are you to judge people on how to be outraged?!