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Old 23-04-2005, 21:04
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Watching this evenings episode my wife and I immediately noticed the postcards behind Jackie in her kitchen (about 15 minutes in). We're convinced the lefthand card is night view of Lycabettus Hill in Athens (where we were married) - which ties in with what can be seen of the caption. The other visible card is of a Scottish roadsign reading "Lost".

Lycabettus is variously translated as (domain | realm | lair | rock | hill) of the wolves. My father-in-law who lives on said hill has offered "domain" as being the most accurate of these.

I even more convinced I've been reading these threads too much... My wife didn't know we were on the lookout for Wolf references... I've now had to explain those to her: and she was struggling with the overt plot of the episodes


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Old 23-04-2005, 21:06
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This was tons better than last week's disappointment.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:07
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Wasn't as good as previous episodes, but I reckon it still beats anything else on tv at the moment! Also very intregued by the bad wolf comments. I read elsewhere a rumour that badwolf.org has recently been registered, could this be a forthcoming whosite in the same vein as Mickeys site and the UNIT site?
On the unit site, does anyone get to see anything after the "missile launched!!!" screen or is it supposed to end there?
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:09
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Originally Posted by etldlrl
I find it sad that TV has become so segmented that when people are faced with a programme which appeals across age and gender groups, rather than embrace it as a show with universal appeal, they get confused and ask "who is this aimed at?".
There is no confusion. I'm not sure which show you are referring to which appeals across age and gender groups, but it's not the new 'Who'. If it was such a show, then there would be no discussion. We are having this discussion because some posters here are of the opinion that 'Who' is too childish, whereas others feel that it is clever and holds enough interest for us adults. If it actually had universal appeal then we'd be talking about other aspects.

'Buffy' was written for teenagers. Full stop. Now, that doesn't stop people other than teenagers enjoying it, personally I loved it and think that it had some of the best television I've ever seen, but television programmes have always had a demographic. That's the nature of entertainment and always has been. There is always a target audience.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:10
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In tonight's episode we find that Britain's launch codes are in the hands of the U.N.

Does anybody else think this a little odd?

Jacqui claimed to know what life with the doctor was like. How could she possibly know that?

The Doctor once again addressed Mickey as Rickey. And despite a matey-matey ending between the two of them, Mickey's website makes it clear that he still doesn't trust the Doctor.

Perhaps there's more to tonight's episode than meets the eye.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:18
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Originally Posted by Loony Ted
I read elsewhere a rumour that badwolf.org has recently been registered, could this be a forthcoming whosite in the same vein as Mickeys site and the UNIT site?
On the unit site, does anyone get to see anything after the "missile launched!!!" screen or is it supposed to end there?
It appears the BBC themselves have registered badwolf.org, so we'll see where that leads, if anywhere.

http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whoi...rg&type=domain

And that is all I get on the UNIT website too!

Originally Posted by msmorley
We're convinced the lefthand card is night view of Lycabettus Hill in Athens ... Lycabettus is variously translated as (domain | realm | lair | rock | hill) of the wolves. My father-in-law who lives on said hill has offered "domain" as being the most accurate of these.
Now THAT is obscure. Interesting. But Obscure

Originally Posted by megaresp
In tonight's episode we find that Britain's launch codes are in the hands of the U.N.

Does anybody else think this a little odd?

Jacqui claimed to know what life with the doctor was like. How could she possibly know that?

The Doctor once again addressed Mickey as Rickey. And despite a matey-matey ending between the two of them, Mickey's website makes it clear that he still doesn't trust the Doctor.
The U.N. having our launch codes is VERY odd, but was 'necessary' for the rest of the 'plot' to make sense. Otherwise the Aliens could have launched an attack straight away. I'm sure someone could have written something a little more convincing, but as the saying goes 'it's good enough for telly.'!

What was it Jacqui said again?

And 'The Doctor' did call him Mickey at the end, didn't he? Maybe he has a modicum of respect for him now.

Originally Posted by Mickey
You see, he's off, making another decision for us, all "I'm the big bad wolf and it's way past your bedtime." Well, I don't think so. Not this time.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:23
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And 'The Doctor' did call him Mickey at the end, didn't he? Maybe he has a modicum of respect for him now.
Well he did offer to have him join him & Rose! I almost felt let down that he declined. He's actually becoming an interesting character! (Never thought I'd say that!)
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:27
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ooo i dont know Fathers for Justice done the same thing managed to run amok in some of the top areas!!hehe without being shot!
Thought the Aliens were great but i didnt like the Actors playing the "human" side,that 45 second thing was Very clever.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:29
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Originally Posted by Digital Spy
New Doctor Who David Tennant has said that he wants to wear a kilt for the role.

The Scottish actor told The Mirror, "I'd love to be the first Time Lord to wear a kilt."

Tennant revealed that, despite hiding his Scottish accent for his role in Casanova, he won't be forced to do the same for Doctor Who.
I can see it now:--

Rose "But you sound like you're from Scotland"
The Doctor "Lots of planets have a Scotland"

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Old 23-04-2005, 21:31
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Hmmm - more kids' TV. Don't think we can argue with that after tonight's episode. I mean, vinegar ?!?

(Still love the "You kiss that?" though )

So it's kids' stuff. So what? I quite like My Parents are Aliens

Besides, can't see next week being so juvenile...
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:32
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Re: Kilt
I'm sure no-one will mind the new look, so long as he has the legs to carry it off!
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:37
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re kilt

I think we have seen enough of his legs in casanova to confirm that he does have the legs
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:39
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As ever.. really enjoyed it, but....

it did seem a bit tedious at times - I know the series has been criticised for rushing and being too pacey, but this episode did seem to crawl at points..... and somehow all the tension that built up at the climax of the previous episode just evaporated - to be honest, I think I was looking forward to something BIG... a bit less Downing Street and Rose's mum whining and a bit more alien invasion and apocalypse - "World War 3" in fact!

good ending though... nice missile strike and Rose pragmatically determined to survive... didn't like Rose succumbing to the Doctor's bully tactics though.... she's normally more strong-willed than that - poignant ending I thought - "10 seconds..." and the depressing long camera shot as the TARDIS doesn't re-materialize and Rose's mum walks dejectedly away.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:39
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Originally Posted by djgk
*wonders where the discussion of 'bad wolf' will go now, now that it was cleaned off the TARDIS...*
I think the Slitheen are meant to be the new 'recurring' monsters - so maybe they take it into the future with them. Sorry if this has already been posted by someone, but I am trying to read through four pages of posts and am halfway through page one.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:40
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Eeek. A Doctor with stalkers.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:42
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Originally Posted by DenWatts
I think the Slitheen are meant to be the new 'recurring' monsters - so maybe they take it into the future with them. Sorry if this has already been posted by someone, but I am trying to read through four pages of posts and am halfway through page one.

Not forgetting Mickey's 'big bad wolf' reference that has appeared on his website tonight.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:44
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Originally Posted by broonale
Now that was funny... Sure its been done before somewhere though.
Casanova's opening line....

Fantastic!
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:47
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Did anyone else think that the Doctor seemed rather too puzzled - twice - that the Nuclear codes were in UN hands?

My reading was that he had just realised something important - beyond the immediate planning he was up to. As if this Earth's history didn't quite fit the time lines he already knew of.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:47
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Originally Posted by DenWatts
I think the Slitheen are meant to be the new 'recurring' monsters - so maybe they take it into the future with them. Sorry if this has already been posted by someone, but I am trying to read through four pages of posts and am halfway through page one.
I reeeaaalllyyy hope that isn't true.

They have to be some of the worst suits in Doctor Who's history. I could make better reptillian make-up myself with a pot of latex, some oats and a bottle of green food dye.

The "Berty Basset" monster from years ago was more realistic and frightening.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:51
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Originally Posted by Callous
after disliking him intently at the start of the series I think the character of Mickey has vastly improved.
I agree - Mickey may be a wimp but he's not as 'naff' as he was before.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:57
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Originally Posted by Alrightmate
I've got to agree with Bystander.
This episode of Doctor Who was crap.
It was for me anyway.
Aww, come on Alrightmate - I thought this episode redeemed the first part slightly (even if it was only because there was less farting in it.)

I think after the magnificence of The Unquiet Dead, anything would have a hard time following it. The producers have to accomodate the new audience as well, otherwise we wouldn't have a recommission and a series two to look forward to.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:58
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Originally Posted by DenWatts
I agree - Mickey may be a wimp but he's not as 'naff' as he was before.
He has a part to play. Wouldn't be surprised to see him take a trip in the TARDIS at some point. Could be as far away as the next series though.
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Old 23-04-2005, 21:58
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Originally Posted by Salford_Who
Clue or Slip of the Tongue

On Doctor Who Confidential, CE said "The doctor feels he is the last Time Lord"

Could this mean the "someone who was dead" is Ep 11 is another Time Lord?
Oh yes - did anyone doubt it?
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Old 23-04-2005, 22:01
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Originally Posted by MIsguidedFool
Or then again RTD might just be playing with us...
I think he's been playing with us all along.....
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Old 23-04-2005, 22:03
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Originally Posted by DenWatts
I agree - Mickey may be a wimp but he's not as 'naff' as he was before.
There's something pretty important to the story arc going on there, I'm sure of it. I expect bits and pieces will be revealed everytime he makes an appearance.
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