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It's sledgehammer satire.....I think.
Anyone who thinks Heaven Sent is worse than any other Who episode is completely and utterly......entitled to their opinion. Aahhhhhh. Gotcha. |
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It was coma inducing and utterly Doctor who used to be fun and light but I don't think there been a fun episode in a few years.
But I'd avoid the Christmas Special, going by your taste in Who. It makes 'City of Death' look like 'The Caves of Androzani'....Honestly. ETA No, hang on. Swap those 2 stories around! Hate it when I try to be 'clever' and fail. Happens a lot.
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During the RTD era I loved every episode except those written by Moffet.
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Here's something that's kept me amused for a few minutes. Try to find a positive post in the OP's history. About anything.
It won't happen again. |
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OMG. Heaven sent is 100 times worse than any previous Doctor who episode. Who has allowed Moffet to completely annihilate the show and also for a doctor worse than Matt Smith to be allowed?
By the way posting statements as you are doing is not criticism - to criticise something you have to explain the failings, perceived or otherwise, in the plot, characterisation, performance, writing, direction etc that you have with the episode. So there's you challenge, compare Heaven Sent to Fear Her properly comparing the plotting, performances, direction etc to support your opinion that Heaven Sent is 100 times worse than Fear Her. Or you could not bother posting that the final episode and the Christmas episode are both the worst episode you have ever seen as we're all kinda expecting it! |
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Please explain how Heaven Sent is 100 times worse than Fear Her? Seriously, I do no think it is possible but would love to see you try!
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Lool, this thread is so funny I can't eben.
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You can't eben what?
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Please explain how Heaven Sent is 100 times worse than Fear Her? Seriously, I do no think it is possible but would love to see you try!
By the way posting statements as you are doing is not criticism - to criticise something you have to explain the failings, perceived or otherwise, in the plot, characterisation, performance, writing, direction etc that you have with the episode. So there's you challenge, compare Heaven Sent to Fear Her properly comparing the plotting, performances, direction etc to support your opinion that Heaven Sent is 100 times worse than Fear Her. Or you could not bother posting that the final episode and the Christmas episode are both the worst episode you have ever seen as we're all kinda expecting it! |
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I remember really enjoying Fear Her when it aired. Id take it a million times compared to the vast majority of post 2010 episodes.
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Cant take criticism then.
I wish RTD would return. Before he left I never failed to enjoy an episode unless they were written by moffet. Now I rarely enjoy an episode. Being negative for its own sake is tiresome, tedious and repetetive. If you want to be taken seriously, and not viewed as merely an annoyance, perhaps come up with an actual critique instead of saying: "wah, wah, so bad... awful... wah wah... where's RTD?... ZOMG its sooooooooooooo bad... wah wah!!!!" But I fear you aren't really after anything other than immediate attention, using the lowest common denominator techniques. |
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I remember really enjoying Fear Her when it aired. Id take it a million times compared to the vast majority of post 2010 episodes.
1/10. Poor attempt. Needs moar ghosts. See me after class. |
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I would say that Fear Her was (arguably) the second weakest episode of a very strong season and saved, to a large degree, by starring an insanely popular Doctor and companion.
Granted it was much more 'Sarah Jane Adventures' than Doctor Who but it got the same AI that year as Tooth and Claw which I thought was a great episode. And so with an AI of 83, Fear Her and Tooth and Claw were jointly the second least enjoyed episodes of season 2, beaten only by Love and Monsters (76). There is a very broad range of AIs for season 2 from a high of 89 (for the finale, Doomsday) to Love and Monsters (76). Most fall in the 84-86 bracket. The AIs are calculated differently now which may account for the different scores for Season 9 where the range is much flatter - from a high of 84 (a number of them got that) down to Sleep No More (78). But with an AI of 80, Heaven Sent was the second least enjoyed episode of season 9. So purely in terms of AI, you could argue that Heaven Sent is the Fear Her of Season 9
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It was coma inducing and utterly
Doctor who used to be fun and light but I don't think there been a fun episode in a few years. |
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I would say that Fear Her was (arguably) the second weakest episode of a very strong season and saved, to a large degree, by starring an insanely popular Doctor and companion.
Granted it was much more 'Sarah Jane Adventures' than Doctor Who but it got the same AI that year as Tooth and Claw which I thought was a great episode. And so with an AI of 83, Fear Her and Tooth and Claw were jointly the second least enjoyed episodes of season 2, beaten only by Love and Monsters (76). There is a very broad range of AIs for season 2 from a high of 89 (for the finale, Doomsday) to Love and Monsters (76). Most fall in the 84-86 bracket. The AIs are calculated differently now which may account for the different scores for Season 9 where the range is much flatter - from a high of 84 (a number of them got that) down to Sleep No More (78). But with an AI of 80, Heaven Sent was the second least enjoyed episode of season 9. So purely in terms of AI, you could argue that Heaven Sent is the Fear Her of Season 9 ![]()
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Utterly what? Buttery?
"That episode was so utterly buttery!" |
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Please explain how Heaven Sent is 100 times worse than Fear Her? Seriously, I do no think it is possible but would love to see you try!
By the way posting statements as you are doing is not criticism - to criticise something you have to explain the failings, perceived or otherwise, in the plot, characterisation, performance, writing, direction etc that you have with the episode. So there's you challenge, compare Heaven Sent to Fear Her properly comparing the plotting, performances, direction etc to support your opinion that Heaven Sent is 100 times worse than Fear Her. Or you could not bother posting that the final episode and the Christmas episode are both the worst episode you have ever seen as we're all kinda expecting it! |
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What about Love and Monsters. I shudder at that one.
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I would say that Fear Her was (arguably) the second weakest episode of a very strong season and saved, to a large degree, by starring an insanely popular Doctor and companion.
Granted it was much more 'Sarah Jane Adventures' than Doctor Who but it got the same AI that year as Tooth and Claw which I thought was a great episode. And so with an AI of 83, Fear Her and Tooth and Claw were jointly the second least enjoyed episodes of season 2, beaten only by Love and Monsters (76). There is a very broad range of AIs for season 2 from a high of 89 (for the finale, Doomsday) to Love and Monsters (76). Most fall in the 84-86 bracket. The AIs are calculated differently now which may account for the different scores for Season 9 where the range is much flatter - from a high of 84 (a number of them got that) down to Sleep No More (78). But with an AI of 80, Heaven Sent was the second least enjoyed episode of season 9. So purely in terms of AI, you could argue that Heaven Sent is the Fear Her of Season 9 ![]() ![]() I also found Tooth and Claw to be an enjoyable episode. |
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What about Love and Monsters. I shudder at that one.
For me Fear Her was completely lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever!
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I remember really enjoying Fear Her when it aired. Id take it a million times compared to the vast majority of post 2010 episodes.
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The problem with this forum is that there's no emoticon for patting you on the head and saying, "Of course, son."
![]() One wonders why the OP posts on this forum let alone watches Doctor Who at this point. Personally I think Heaven Sent deserves a rewatch
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I'd take Fear Her over Last of the Timelords or Death in Heaven actually.
If I had to choose* one of those three to rewatch myself it would be Death in Heaven. * by choose I mean be held at gunpoint and made to select one |
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Surprisingly the last episode was actually fairly decent( compared to the rest of Series. Still shite compared to Rose departure or even Amy).
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It had some redeeming features such as L.I.N.D.A. being a group of people whose lives had been touched/affected by the Doctor such as Elton as the focus of the episode and the casting ensured that the members of the group were engaging and their absorbtion was felt by the viewer. Of course there was plenty to make you shudder I agree.
For me Fear Her was completely lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever! ![]() |
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