Just how far behind the UK networks are...

jonmorris · 19-12-2015, 21:49

I believe the plan is for the 6P to get an update in Q1 that will make ALL versions compatible with Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE on many networks. Presumably other manufacturers will wise up and seek to do the same, just as we wouldn't expect to need a EE phone to use mobile data on EE (just add the right APN settings).

seatmad · 20-12-2015, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

I believe the plan is for the 6P to get an update in Q1 that will make ALL versions compatible with Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE on many networks. Presumably other manufacturers will wise up and seek to do the same, just as we wouldn't expect to need a EE phone to use mobile data on EE (just add the right APN settings).

That's excellent news and i hope that is the case. Do you have a source for this though?

Thanks

jonmorris · 20-12-2015, 14:09

The source is me. You'll have to decide if I'm credible or not!

I spoke to Huawei at a Christmas party and then at an event done with Google (for the 6P) and discussed the issue of VoLTE. Although I could only be told about what Huawei itself is working on for Google, I'd assume Google is going to be requesting the same support from LG and Motorola.

drabble · 03-01-2016, 07:45

Appolgies for lack of response, been busy over here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevoidDroid

You forgot to add that their tariffs are more expensive than they are here.

$50/month (about £33) plus tax, gets you unlimited mins and texts and 2GB of data on contract.

Yes it is more expensive but then it is a huge place compared to our tiny island, so I would expect to pay more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by de525ma

* You must have an iPhone or have paid a ridiculously high amount for an Android handset from EE on a 24 month contract.

If T-Mobile can work with Google to get VoLTE / VoWiFi working without custom firmware on nexus devices, EE could too. The 5X/6P have been out for months now and they still don't support these features.

Indeed, also don't EE still treat their SIM only customers as second class citizens with no access to 4G+/LTE-A?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

The USA is a big place, can you be more precise? What percentage of the population has access to that level of service? What percentage of the country has access?

Southern California, just slightly north of Los Angeles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

The source is me. You'll have to decide if I'm credible or not!

I spoke to Huawei at a Christmas party and then at an event done with Google (for the 6P) and discussed the issue of VoLTE. Although I could only be told about what Huawei itself is working on for Google, I'd assume Google is going to be requesting the same support from LG and Motorola.

Thanks for the infomation, will be great if they can support other VoLTE networks with the level of integration I am currently experiencing.

Anyway here are some screenshots from my 6P (edited where needed), happy new year all.

WiFi calling in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/jg5lis.jpg
VoLTE in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/2j319bq.jpg
Visual Voicemail: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ujkvuc.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i67.tinypic.com/sv3tb5.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i68.tinypic.com/33c6jxi.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i66.tinypic.com/2ppyjwh.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vba8o4.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i66.tinypic.com/315ba08.jpg
Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i67.tinypic.com/2lj18io.jpg
Speedtest (No CA support on band 4, new years eve): http://i67.tinypic.com/35mnv4x.jpg
LTE Discovery: http://i66.tinypic.com/ayll5j.jpg

oilman · 03-01-2016, 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by drabble

Yes it is more expensive but then it is a huge place compared to our tiny island, so I would expect to pay more.

The reason cost are higher in US are because they do not have the same degree of coverage of all the networks ie many areas do not have much choice.

The fact is the uk was several years ahead of us developing its mobile phone infrastructure, and most areas can get two or three services, plus a number of mnvo suppliers, resulting in much better deals for customer.

Gigabit · 03-01-2016, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by drabble

WiFi calling in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/jg5lis.jpg
VoLTE in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/2j319bq.jpg
Visual Voicemail: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ujkvuc.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i67.tinypic.com/sv3tb5.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i68.tinypic.com/33c6jxi.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i66.tinypic.com/2ppyjwh.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vba8o4.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i66.tinypic.com/315ba08.jpg
Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i67.tinypic.com/2lj18io.jpg
Speedtest (No CA support on band 4, new years eve): http://i67.tinypic.com/35mnv4x.jpg
LTE Discovery: http://i66.tinypic.com/ayll5j.jpg

Do you have to use TinyPic? It's full of popups and ads and is horrible to use on a smartphone.

Any chance you could use imgur?

Thanks!

lightspeed2398 · 03-01-2016, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by drabble

Appolgies for lack of response, been busy over here.

Yes it is more expensive but then it is a huge place compared to our tiny island, so I would expect to pay more.

Indeed, also don't EE still treat their SIM only customers as second class citizens with no access to 4G+/LTE-A?

Southern California, just slightly north of Los Angeles.

Thanks for the infomation, will be great if they can support other VoLTE networks with the level of integration I am currently experiencing.

Anyway here are some screenshots from my 6P (edited where needed), happy new year all.

WiFi calling in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/jg5lis.jpg
VoLTE in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/2j319bq.jpg
Visual Voicemail: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ujkvuc.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i67.tinypic.com/sv3tb5.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i68.tinypic.com/33c6jxi.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i66.tinypic.com/2ppyjwh.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vba8o4.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i66.tinypic.com/315ba08.jpg
Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i67.tinypic.com/2lj18io.jpg
Speedtest (No CA support on band 4, new years eve): http://i67.tinypic.com/35mnv4x.jpg
LTE Discovery: http://i66.tinypic.com/ayll5j.jpg

Many thanks for these pictures.

Looking on the FCC map for Los Angeles, T-Mobile have 25MHz on band 4 there available, do you know how much they actually run? They are doing some band 12 CA in some markets though I've read just must not be yours. If you have 20MHz on band 4 and maybe some 4x2 antennas they probably won't need to. Remember #uncarrier fight the duopoly in the Legere cult fashion.

jaffboy151 · 03-01-2016, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

Do you have to use TinyPic? It's full of popups and ads and is horrible to use on a smartphone.

Any chance you could use imgur?

Thanks!

Have to second that I'm afraid, hate to moan when someone's took time to upload useful stuff, but I can never get tiny pic to display images on my tablet or phone.

jonmorris · 03-01-2016, 17:30

Or upload the screen shots folder to Google Photos and share them. Even easier I'd have thought? You can create one link for all the pictures you selected.

drabble · 03-01-2016, 20:09

Updated screenshot links as requested with a couple more shots, bit busy ATM but will respond when I can.

WiFi calling in-call: http://i.imgur.com/nXFFVY9.jpg
VoLTE in-call: http://i.imgur.com/doLVKA5.jpg
Visual Voicemail: http://i.imgur.com/eqbS5GC.jpg
Pull down notification WiFI calling enabled: http://i.imgur.com/5Ygsjl5.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i.imgur.com/QfSpo5i.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i.imgur.com/W9uFQYg.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i.imgur.com/dF9wmtD.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i.imgur.com/da3gQXn.jpg
Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i.imgur.com/8kllC7p.jpg
Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i.imgur.com/0arZhkA.jpg
Speedtest (No CA handset support on band 4, new years eve): http://i.imgur.com/w8WTG5d.jpg
Speedtest (No CA handset support on band 4, this morning): http://i.imgur.com/kcFiMhO.jpg
LTE Discovery: http://i.imgur.com/0iCelkY.jpg

Robbo19 · 03-01-2016, 20:27

People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network.

jonmorris · 03-01-2016, 20:37

Virgin has certainly fallen somewhat behind of late, given the lack of 4G and the reduced allowances etc.

I'm not even sure if the discount for being a Virgin Media customer makes it worthwhile anymore, if it ever did.

plymouthbloke1974 · 03-01-2016, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbo19

People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network.

To be fair, for the last week I've turned off 4G to see if I notice any difference. So far I actually don't. Mind you, my 3G is quite nippy anyways. Might keep it off for longer to see what happens

d123 · 03-01-2016, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbo19

People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network.

You went for the cheap MVNO option, if you want the full experience then sign up directly with a network and you can have them.

There are plenty of 3G only MVNOs still in operation.

drabble · 04-01-2016, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman

The reason cost are higher in US are because they do not have the same degree of coverage of all the networks ie many areas do not have much choice.

The fact is the uk was several years ahead of us developing its mobile phone infrastructure, and most areas can get two or three services, plus a number of mnvo suppliers, resulting in much better deals for customer.

Whist I don't disagree that the UK was ahead, we are now looking distinctly second rate compared to some others with the chronic lack of investment and slow rollouts.

Yes the US has a long way to go when it comes to coverage and pricing but I can say for me my experience has been good so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

Many thanks for these pictures.

Looking on the FCC map for Los Angeles, T-Mobile have 25MHz on band 4 there available, do you know how much they actually run? They are doing some band 12 CA in some markets though I've read just must not be yours. If you have 20MHz on band 4 and maybe some 4x2 antennas they probably won't need to. Remember #uncarrier fight the duopoly in the Legere cult fashion.

You are welcome, no I do not know but I assume I am in a band 4 20x20Mhz area with some band 12 or Extended Range LTE in Legere speak.

The version of the 6P I have is the international/global model so I am missing band 12 and most/all US CA support, I have not seen any LTE on band 2 as yet.

jchamier · 04-01-2016, 05:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by d123

There are plenty of 3G only MVNOs still in operation.

and BT Mobile is a 4G MVNO.

Brian The Dog · 04-01-2016, 08:23

...and not just networks: Samsung can't even be bothered to launch their Note 5 here.

d123 · 04-01-2016, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchamier

and BT Mobile is a 4G MVNO.

How does that relate to my comment you quoted?

I didn't say all MVNOs were 3G, did you think I did?

jonmorris · 04-01-2016, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian The Dog

...and not just networks: Samsung can't even be bothered to launch their Note 5 here.

Well, it is coming this year apparently, but there was a logic behind that. Samsung is trying to reduce its range of handsets in most markets this year, and I assume networks already wanted less phones to sell.

Samsung knows most people don't use the stylus, so the S6 edge+ was considered the one to release in many markets. I think Samsung was right, although perhaps it should have sold the Note 5 SIM free via its web store - but maybe didn't because it would have annoyed networks?

alan1302 · 04-01-2016, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbo19

People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network.

Why not move?

jchamier · 04-01-2016, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by d123

How does that relate to my comment you quoted?

I didn't say all MVNOs were 3G, did you think I did?

I think I meant to write "BT Mobile is one of the _few_ 4G MVNO's" but some words got missed.

19-12-2015, 21:49	#26
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I believe the plan is for the 6P to get an update in Q1 that will make ALL versions compatible with Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE on many networks. Presumably other manufacturers will wise up and seek to do the same, just as we wouldn't expect to need a EE phone to use mobile data on EE (just add the right APN settings).

20-12-2015, 11:52	#27
seatmad Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 35	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris I believe the plan is for the 6P to get an update in Q1 that will make ALL versions compatible with Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE on many networks. Presumably other manufacturers will wise up and seek to do the same, just as we wouldn't expect to need a EE phone to use mobile data on EE (just add the right APN settings). That's excellent news and i hope that is the case. Do you have a source for this though? Thanks

20-12-2015, 14:09	#28
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	The source is me. You'll have to decide if I'm credible or not! I spoke to Huawei at a Christmas party and then at an event done with Google (for the 6P) and discussed the issue of VoLTE. Although I could only be told about what Huawei itself is working on for Google, I'd assume Google is going to be requesting the same support from LG and Motorola.

03-01-2016, 07:45	#29
drabble Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 613	Appolgies for lack of response, been busy over here. Quote: Originally Posted by DevoidDroid You forgot to add that their tariffs are more expensive than they are here. $50/month (about £33) plus tax, gets you unlimited mins and texts and 2GB of data on contract. Yes it is more expensive but then it is a huge place compared to our tiny island, so I would expect to pay more. Quote: Originally Posted by de525ma * You must have an iPhone or have paid a ridiculously high amount for an Android handset from EE on a 24 month contract. If T-Mobile can work with Google to get VoLTE / VoWiFi working without custom firmware on nexus devices, EE could too. The 5X/6P have been out for months now and they still don't support these features. Indeed, also don't EE still treat their SIM only customers as second class citizens with no access to 4G+/LTE-A? Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz The USA is a big place, can you be more precise? What percentage of the population has access to that level of service? What percentage of the country has access? Southern California, just slightly north of Los Angeles. Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris The source is me. You'll have to decide if I'm credible or not! I spoke to Huawei at a Christmas party and then at an event done with Google (for the 6P) and discussed the issue of VoLTE. Although I could only be told about what Huawei itself is working on for Google, I'd assume Google is going to be requesting the same support from LG and Motorola. Thanks for the infomation, will be great if they can support other VoLTE networks with the level of integration I am currently experiencing. Anyway here are some screenshots from my 6P (edited where needed), happy new year all. WiFi calling in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/jg5lis.jpg VoLTE in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/2j319bq.jpg Visual Voicemail: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ujkvuc.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i67.tinypic.com/sv3tb5.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i68.tinypic.com/33c6jxi.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i66.tinypic.com/2ppyjwh.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vba8o4.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i66.tinypic.com/315ba08.jpg Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i67.tinypic.com/2lj18io.jpg Speedtest (No CA support on band 4, new years eve): http://i67.tinypic.com/35mnv4x.jpg LTE Discovery: http://i66.tinypic.com/ayll5j.jpg

03-01-2016, 08:13	#30
oilman Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,854	Quote: Originally Posted by drabble Yes it is more expensive but then it is a huge place compared to our tiny island, so I would expect to pay more. The reason cost are higher in US are because they do not have the same degree of coverage of all the networks ie many areas do not have much choice. The fact is the uk was several years ahead of us developing its mobile phone infrastructure, and most areas can get two or three services, plus a number of mnvo suppliers, resulting in much better deals for customer.

03-01-2016, 10:11	#31
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Quote: Originally Posted by drabble WiFi calling in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/jg5lis.jpg VoLTE in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/2j319bq.jpg Visual Voicemail: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ujkvuc.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i67.tinypic.com/sv3tb5.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i68.tinypic.com/33c6jxi.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i66.tinypic.com/2ppyjwh.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vba8o4.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i66.tinypic.com/315ba08.jpg Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i67.tinypic.com/2lj18io.jpg Speedtest (No CA support on band 4, new years eve): http://i67.tinypic.com/35mnv4x.jpg LTE Discovery: http://i66.tinypic.com/ayll5j.jpg Do you have to use TinyPic? It's full of popups and ads and is horrible to use on a smartphone. Any chance you could use imgur? Thanks!

03-01-2016, 10:20	#32
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by drabble Appolgies for lack of response, been busy over here. Yes it is more expensive but then it is a huge place compared to our tiny island, so I would expect to pay more. Indeed, also don't EE still treat their SIM only customers as second class citizens with no access to 4G+/LTE-A? Southern California, just slightly north of Los Angeles. Thanks for the infomation, will be great if they can support other VoLTE networks with the level of integration I am currently experiencing. Anyway here are some screenshots from my 6P (edited where needed), happy new year all. WiFi calling in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/jg5lis.jpg VoLTE in-call: http://i63.tinypic.com/2j319bq.jpg Visual Voicemail: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ujkvuc.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i67.tinypic.com/sv3tb5.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i68.tinypic.com/33c6jxi.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i66.tinypic.com/2ppyjwh.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vba8o4.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i66.tinypic.com/315ba08.jpg Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i67.tinypic.com/2lj18io.jpg Speedtest (No CA support on band 4, new years eve): http://i67.tinypic.com/35mnv4x.jpg LTE Discovery: http://i66.tinypic.com/ayll5j.jpg Many thanks for these pictures. Looking on the FCC map for Los Angeles, T-Mobile have 25MHz on band 4 there available, do you know how much they actually run? They are doing some band 12 CA in some markets though I've read just must not be yours. If you have 20MHz on band 4 and maybe some 4x2 antennas they probably won't need to. Remember #uncarrier fight the duopoly in the Legere cult fashion.

03-01-2016, 17:25	#33
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Do you have to use TinyPic? It's full of popups and ads and is horrible to use on a smartphone. Any chance you could use imgur? Thanks! Have to second that I'm afraid, hate to moan when someone's took time to upload useful stuff, but I can never get tiny pic to display images on my tablet or phone.

03-01-2016, 17:30	#34
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Or upload the screen shots folder to Google Photos and share them. Even easier I'd have thought? You can create one link for all the pictures you selected.

03-01-2016, 20:09	#35
drabble Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 613	Updated screenshot links as requested with a couple more shots, bit busy ATM but will respond when I can. WiFi calling in-call: http://i.imgur.com/nXFFVY9.jpg VoLTE in-call: http://i.imgur.com/doLVKA5.jpg Visual Voicemail: http://i.imgur.com/eqbS5GC.jpg Pull down notification WiFI calling enabled: http://i.imgur.com/5Ygsjl5.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More: http://i.imgur.com/QfSpo5i.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Wi-Fi Calling: http://i.imgur.com/W9uFQYg.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks: http://i.imgur.com/dF9wmtD.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names: http://i.imgur.com/da3gQXn.jpg Settings > Wireless & Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network Operators: http://i.imgur.com/8kllC7p.jpg Settings > About Phone > Status > SIM Status (WiFI calling): http://i.imgur.com/0arZhkA.jpg Speedtest (No CA handset support on band 4, new years eve): http://i.imgur.com/w8WTG5d.jpg Speedtest (No CA handset support on band 4, this morning): http://i.imgur.com/kcFiMhO.jpg LTE Discovery: http://i.imgur.com/0iCelkY.jpg

03-01-2016, 20:27	#36
Robbo19 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Liverpool Posts: 292	People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network.

03-01-2016, 20:37	#37
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Virgin has certainly fallen somewhat behind of late, given the lack of 4G and the reduced allowances etc. I'm not even sure if the discount for being a Virgin Media customer makes it worthwhile anymore, if it ever did.

03-01-2016, 20:50	#38
plymouthbloke1974 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Destination: Hard Brexit Posts: 6,368	Quote: Originally Posted by Robbo19 People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network. To be fair, for the last week I've turned off 4G to see if I notice any difference. So far I actually don't. Mind you, my 3G is quite nippy anyways. Might keep it off for longer to see what happens

03-01-2016, 21:19	#39
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by Robbo19 People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network. You went for the cheap MVNO option, if you want the full experience then sign up directly with a network and you can have them. There are plenty of 3G only MVNOs still in operation.

04-01-2016, 05:12	#40
drabble Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 613	Quote: Originally Posted by oilman The reason cost are higher in US are because they do not have the same degree of coverage of all the networks ie many areas do not have much choice. The fact is the uk was several years ahead of us developing its mobile phone infrastructure, and most areas can get two or three services, plus a number of mnvo suppliers, resulting in much better deals for customer. Whist I don't disagree that the UK was ahead, we are now looking distinctly second rate compared to some others with the chronic lack of investment and slow rollouts. Yes the US has a long way to go when it comes to coverage and pricing but I can say for me my experience has been good so far. Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 Many thanks for these pictures. Looking on the FCC map for Los Angeles, T-Mobile have 25MHz on band 4 there available, do you know how much they actually run? They are doing some band 12 CA in some markets though I've read just must not be yours. If you have 20MHz on band 4 and maybe some 4x2 antennas they probably won't need to. Remember #uncarrier fight the duopoly in the Legere cult fashion. You are welcome, no I do not know but I assume I am in a band 4 20x20Mhz area with some band 12 or Extended Range LTE in Legere speak. The version of the 6P I have is the international/global model so I am missing band 12 and most/all US CA support, I have not seen any LTE on band 2 as yet.

04-01-2016, 05:55	#41
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 There are plenty of 3G only MVNOs still in operation. and BT Mobile is a 4G MVNO.

04-01-2016, 08:23	#42
Brian The Dog Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 2,090	...and not just networks: Samsung can't even be bothered to launch their Note 5 here.

04-01-2016, 12:11	#43
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by jchamier and BT Mobile is a 4G MVNO. How does that relate to my comment you quoted? I didn't say all MVNOs were 3G, did you think I did?

04-01-2016, 12:36	#44
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Brian The Dog ...and not just networks: Samsung can't even be bothered to launch their Note 5 here. Well, it is coming this year apparently, but there was a logic behind that. Samsung is trying to reduce its range of handsets in most markets this year, and I assume networks already wanted less phones to sell. Samsung knows most people don't use the stylus, so the S6 edge+ was considered the one to release in many markets. I think Samsung was right, although perhaps it should have sold the Note 5 SIM free via its web store - but maybe didn't because it would have annoyed networks?

04-01-2016, 13:19	#45
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by Robbo19 People should be happy to have 4G, Wi-Fi calling and possibly VoLTE on some networks in the UK, us folk on Virgin Mobile are stuck in the 2000's with only a 3G connection for the foreseeable future. They are nothing but a complete waste of space of a network. Why not move?

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Just how far behind the UK networks are...

04-01-2016, 18:20	#46
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 How does that relate to my comment you quoted? I didn't say all MVNOs were 3G, did you think I did? I think I meant to write "BT Mobile is one of the _few_ 4G MVNO's" but some words got missed.