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Old 30-12-2015, 23:57
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Phil in honest, frank and non condescending interview shocker
He was a tiny bit condescending tbf


There was a "young Adrian" in there
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Old 30-12-2015, 23:57
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Get the feeling we're seeing the dying of the Taylor light to be honest, I know he's been written off hundreds of times but this time I get the feeling he's starting to accept it, he surprisingly warmly accepted defeat there.
indeed but as you say he has been written off so much before! he was a dart from winning today and in all honesty making a world semi. he still made final last year

you only have to go back to his disastrous campaign in 07/08 and see how he bounced back. he's far older now but i still think there's majors in him yet. he has an aura about him which makes players beat themselves before they go up on stage.

i really hope he isn't a spent force, as much as i can't stand him as a person

anyhow Jelle has been superb in recent weeks the big question is can he finally push on unlike in 08/09 (don't remem which)

can you imagine a potential rivalry between himself and MvG. Interesting to say the very least
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Old 30-12-2015, 23:57
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Lewis v Barney final?
Barney won't reach the final, it was a shame MvG lost because of the reason for good quality games later on.

He will play his usual standard these days in the next round I reckon.

And Chizzy booked his Prem League spot before the worlds even started
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Old 31-12-2015, 00:00
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Barney won't reach the final, it was a shame MvG lost because of the reason for good quality games later on.

He will play his usual standard these days in the next round I reckon.
Agree, I've never seen anyone as set up for a fall as barney on friday . he's being talked up way too much (yes he was outstanding- but he's not a patch on his former self consistency wise)
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Old 31-12-2015, 00:02
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think Gando is a certainty for the final myself on that side of the draw after tonight

the other side is more interesting, I think it's between Lewis and Smith though, despite Barney and Wright's superb showings this round
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Old 31-12-2015, 00:07
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Bit of a joke from Sky to put the reigning world champion on in the afternoon session, hardly like he's playing a mug either Wade's a top player!

Should have been Barney V Smith in the afternoon. But no doubt they want to spend about 2 hours playing Barney promos in the evening before he plays nothing like last night and gets beat!
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Old 31-12-2015, 00:08
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Barney's only got the evening slot because he's the biggest draw for casual viewers now Taylor's gone out.
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Old 31-12-2015, 00:21
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Nope. Doesn't have to jump as it's an invitation event
Technically you are right but I just can't see the PDC going down the route of inviting BDO players.

Premier league is a big draw for players who looking to switch. Can't see the PDC opening it up so players no longer have to make the jump.

Then the fact that it would upset a hell of lot of PDC players. Yeah you could say so what but still its a fact that can't be ignored.

Inviting BDO players won't go down well at all. The premier league is not the grand slam. Grand slam was always a PDC tournament that invited BDO players.

Could argue that if the Premier league went down that route then whats the point of the grand slam. Once you invite one BDO player you have to invite more down the line.
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Old 31-12-2015, 09:34
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Technically you are right but I just can't see the PDC going down the route of inviting BDO players.

Premier league is a big draw for players who looking to switch. Can't see the PDC opening it up so players no longer have to make the jump.

Then the fact that it would upset a hell of lot of PDC players. Yeah you could say so what but still its a fact that can't be ignored.

Inviting BDO players won't go down well at all. The premier league is not the grand slam. Grand slam was always a PDC tournament that invited BDO players.

Could argue that if the Premier league went down that route then whats the point of the grand slam. Once you invite one BDO player you have to invite more down the line.
I am not saying it is right but the PL is all about getting arses on seats and players who get the crowd going. Ian White and Robert Thornton should be in it based on rankings but who is going to buy a ticket based on watching those two ? Wolfie on the other hand, as the GSOD showed, is a big draw. Any PDC players who are narked off with the situation only have themselves to blame. You get in the PL based on what you do, not what others do.

It is merely my prediction
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Old 31-12-2015, 09:45
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What is the running order for the quarters please ? PDC site doesnt have it up yet
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Old 31-12-2015, 10:22
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Friday January 1
QUARTER-FINALS
Afternoon Session (1pm-4.30pm)
Alan Norris v Jelle Klaasen
Gary Anderson v James Wade

Evening Session (7.30pm-11pm)
Raymond van Barneveld v Michael Smith
Adrian Lewis v Peter Wright

Least they haven't put the Barney game on as the main event!
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Old 31-12-2015, 10:25
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Friday January 1
QUARTER-FINALS
Afternoon Session (1pm-4.30pm)
Alan Norris v Jelle Klaasen
Gary Anderson v James Wade

Evening Session (7.30pm-11pm)
Raymond van Barneveld v Michael Smith
Adrian Lewis v Peter Wright

Least they haven't put the Barney game on as the main event!
Cheers

You could argue that afternoon on New Years Day will get more viewers but i think you'd be wrong

I agree with Jason, Barney is a bigger TV draw than Gando.
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Old 31-12-2015, 10:57
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What is the running order for the quarters please ? PDC site doesnt have it up yet
PDC website is absolute crud.

Surprisingly perhaps the best analysis I've found comes from Wikipedia's '2016 PDC World Darts Championship' page which has all the schedule, averages and statistical breakdown almost instantly updated, rather than endless out-of-date videos and adverts.

Highly recommended.
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Old 31-12-2015, 11:06
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It's probably premature to write obituaries for Taylor just yet as he still regularly throws three-figure averages. His problem is that so do a clutch of others nowadays, some of which have a big age advantage over the 16-times champ.

I find it next to impossible to believe that he will win another Worlds and even a major may now be beyond him. However, even with this defeat, there's no real sign of him dropping out of, say, the top 10 in the next couple of years.
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Old 31-12-2015, 21:55
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Does anyone think we`ll ever see taylor`s championship record beaten? i certainly don`t think i`ll see it in my life time.
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Old 31-12-2015, 23:11
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Does anyone think we`ll ever see taylor`s championship record beaten? i certainly don`t think i`ll see it in my life time.
I don't think there were many players regularly averaging 100+ when Taylor was winning nigh on every year.

So many top players now that you usually need to beat at least 2 or 3 world class players to win the world title. The depth of talent is so much stronger now than ever before.
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Old 31-12-2015, 23:54
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Nope. Doesn't have to jump as it's an invitation event
Yet they never invited a non pdc player before. You could argue Hankey was ripe for a wildcard spot at one time or even waites but it seems ridiculous to start inviting bdo players to the premier league.

Invitational or not it's a great earner and the players start every year hoping that a decent year on the circuit will see them in with a shout. If the pdc invite non pdc players then well you might as well forget about the rankings, major winners and just make every player an invite as that would be a total piss take to the players in the pdc.
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Old 31-12-2015, 23:58
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When it comes to the PDC I think of it as the pre Barney era and post Barney era. Pre Barney Phils PDC world titles were soft let's be honest, Part and Sir Dennis on their best days could challenge him but that was about it, beyond them and the standard was low. Till Barney moved the BDO had a deeper talent pool I'd say.

The standard is a whole other level now, no disrespect to them but the likes of Jamie Harvey and Graham Stoddart would need 4 darts to compete now!
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Old 01-01-2016, 00:36
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Taylor’s value for at least 60% of his PDC world titles he’s won down the years if you consider if he faced a unified field 1994 to 2006 instead.

Taylor would have been at least the 10 times world darts champion in a unified field the whole of his career.
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:00
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Yet they never invited a non pdc player before. You could argue Hankey was ripe for a wildcard spot at one time or even waites but it seems ridiculous to start inviting bdo players to the premier league.

Invitational or not it's a great earner and the players start every year hoping that a decent year on the circuit will see them in with a shout. If the pdc invite non pdc players then well you might as well forget about the rankings, major winners and just make every player an invite as that would be a total piss take to the players in the pdc.
Disgaree. If Ian White and Dave Chisnall don't make the PL this year it isn't the fault of any BDO player, it is down to themselves for not getting their ranking high enough or by winning a major.

The rules have changed from when you mention Hankey and Waites. Back then it was top 6 of the PDC who were in and only 2 wildcard spots, now it is top 4 in and 6 wildcard spots so you cannot compare them in reality.

Only one thing guarantees you a PL spot and that is a PDC ranking of 1, 2, 3 and 4. Winning a major is a huge advantage and should see you get a place most of the time. The rest, well it goes on what you have done that year PLUS ( and this is the major part ) whether you are a crowd puller or pleaser. Why do you think it was changed from 2 wildcards to 6 ?

PS - Further to your opening line, that strictly isn't true. Had Barney actually played any PDC events before he was picked for the PL ?
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Old 01-01-2016, 13:20
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Is it just me or are the walk on girls dresses getting shorter not that I'm complaining. Lol
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Old 01-01-2016, 13:20
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Hope Klaasen doesn't become the latest in a long line of players to go out of a tournament straight after knocking Taylor out.

It's worse than that in the Worlds - no player has ever won their next match after beating Taylor.
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Old 01-01-2016, 13:26
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It's great that the best BDO players are coming to the PDC and showing their own, I do think Klaasen can win this but it would take some of the big guns to under perform.

I do like Norris
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Old 01-01-2016, 14:00
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Klaasen suffering a bit of Ibeattayloritis
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Old 01-01-2016, 14:03
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These are my list for the premier league.

Michael Van gerwan
Gary Anderson
Phil Taylor
Peter Wright

Raymond Van barneveld
Adrian Lewis
James Wade
Robert Thornton
Michael Smith
Dave Chisnall

Think only one of Smith/Klassen will make it.
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