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Fair play?? Supposing the "wrong couple" lifts the Glitterball?
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komentaightor
16-12-2015
Honestlly. I know I'm in the minority. but I want the couple dancing best on the night to win Strictly 2015. At this moment in time I don't know who they will be.

Given the intensity of feelings over what is reportedly a very "boring", "lame" , "meh" & "stale" series which had the pro dancers saying that the QF and SF weeks were the closest ever competitionwise and impossible to call, I feel a national grid power crisis as soon as the winner's names are revealed..

Is it going to be another Darren Gough/Chris Hollins moment if Jay does not win?
Could even be Kellie and Kevin. Not sure how many people are prepared for that.

Of course people will claim it will be "a fix", but it would be nice to see it as a victory for the couple who do win.

I would love it if for just one evening the viewers would allow the winniing couple to celebrate before calling in the national guard to police their protest marches to close down the BBC.
bendymixer
16-12-2015
I would love the best on the night to win irrespective of who it is just cos they danced a stormer would love it
ADMR
16-12-2015
Well said. We all have our favourites and you can't really deny that they've all been of a high standard this series. So to say that any of them don't deserve it would be a bit unfair. Of course we have preferences, but whoever wins out of the 4 I say well done to them. We can't always get everything our way. Doesn't mean it's a fix or undeserved. I'll be happy for whoever it is. And happy for the other three for making it all the way to the final

My favourites haven't always been the eventual winners. But I've still been respectful enough to appreciate the eventual winner deserved their win and were probably also equally as good regardless of personal preference

Fair play definitely. Nothing worse than a bad sport
ladygardener
16-12-2015
At least it's down to the voters now (well we have to believe it is), the judges can have their say but the voters can totally ignore them.
TerryM22
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by ladygardener:
“At least it's down to the voters now (well we have to believe it is), the judges can have their say but the voters can totally ignore them.”

I would like it be down to the voting viewers the whole time.
komentaightor
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“I would love the best on the night to win irrespective of who it is just cos they danced a stormer would love it”

Happened with Tom Chambers - his and Camilla's showdance stole the show!
bendymixer
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Happened with Tom Chambers - his and Camilla's showdance stole the show!
”


yep it did - he wasn't my fave before the final but that showdance def won it for him
Shappy
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Happened with Tom Chambers - his and Camilla's showdance stole the show!
”

The showdance was too late to have an impact - it was actually the last dance in those days. It was just a reasoning used by many to justify voting for a weaker dancer (although I loved Tom and was rooting for him the whole series). It was a huge backlash year as the judges had got rid of Austin who was shaping up to be another Gough/Ramps man's man who could dance (ugh!). Once Austin left, the viewers wanted vengeance against the perceived judges faves (Lisa and Rachel) so Tom was always going to win it from that point on.

Edit: just remembered there was also the semi final fiasco that year where it looked like the judges had fixed it to make it impossible for the viewer vote to make a difference and keep Tom in.
Cadiva
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Honestlly. I know I'm in the minority. but I want the couple dancing best on the night to win Strictly 2015. At this moment in time I don't know who they will be.

Given the intensity of feelings over what is reportedly a very "boring", "lame" , "meh" & "stale" series which had the pro dancers saying that the QF and SF weeks were the closest ever competitionwise and impossible to call, I feel a national grid power crisis as soon as the winner's names are revealed..

Is it going to be another Darren Gough/Chris Hollins moment if Jay does not win?
Could even be Kellie and Kevin. Not sure how many people are prepared for that.

Of course people will claim it will be "a fix", but it would be nice to see it as a victory for the couple who do win.

I would love it if for just one evening the viewers would allow the winniing couple to celebrate before calling in the national guard to police their protest marches to close down the BBC.”

There's no such thing as the "wrong" couple. Whoever the public votes as winners are rightfully winners. I'd be happy with any of the final four lifting the trophy as they've all, at one time or another, danced my favourite dance during a particular week.

I'd prefer it to be Jay because he's my favourite but the other three (and Anita or Helen before them) would all have been fair winners imo.
BeeBumble
17-12-2015
The right couple to lift the glitterball will be the couple with the most votes.

Whether you think it should be the couple who danced best on the night or the couple who have done best over all or the couple with the prettiest outfits it's subjective and there's no rule book on what you should base your votes on.

People should be allowed to vote for whoever they like. You may disagree with who they voted for and why but that doesn't make you right and them wrong. It's just a difference of opinion.
StigOfTheKrump
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Is it going to be another Darren Gough/Chris Hollins moment if Jay does not win?”

All three are/were blindingly obvious so I'd say more the opposite than anything.
Penny Crayon
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“The showdance was too late to have an impact - it was actually the last dance in those days. It was just a reasoning used by many to justify voting for a weaker dancer (although I loved Tom and was rooting for him the whole series). It was a huge backlash year as the judges had got rid of Austin who was shaping up to be another Gough/Ramps man's man who could dance (ugh!). Once Austin left, the viewers wanted vengeance against the perceived judges faves (Lisa and Rachel) so Tom was always going to win it from that point on.

Edit: just remembered there was also the semi final fiasco that year where it looked like the judges had fixed it to make it impossible for the viewer vote to make a difference and keep Tom in.”

I vaguely remember that - what happened exactly?
JamieHT
17-12-2015
I hope it's Jay or Georgia (even though I'd love Katie). If Kellie and Kevin win, I think I'll have mixed feelings. I don't tend to like their style of dancing (way too frenetic with a frenzied look on their faces, and that's been throughout the series), but I did like their Rumba at the weekend so as someone said on It Takes Two tonight, the momentum is currently behind them.

Jay had the momentum for a long time and it's not too late for him to pull it out of the bag. I'm not sure Georgia ever had as much support as Jay, but they were getting loads of love a a few weeks back, but that seems to have died down a bit in recent weeks as others have put in more memorable performances.

As I said, I'd love Katie to win from a personality point of view but I realise she's the weakest dancer left. The judges scores don't always influence the public vote. I'm sure someone can help me, Caroline was top last year, but was Natalie higher than Abbey the year before??
Cadiva
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I vaguely remember that - what happened exactly?”

The way the judges' scored the three semi-finalists meant the viewers couldn't vote Tom out of the DO therefore it was considered that they'd be wasting their money phoning in and so put all three of them through.
lundavra
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I would like it be down to the voting viewers the whole time.”

So you would prefer the good dancers be eliminated and the 'comedy turns' get through and win the final?
slappers r us
17-12-2015
IMO K&K will lift the Glitterball

I feel another Tom Chambers year
notdebbiedingle
17-12-2015
All I want is for all four couples to dance to their very best standard & make it what it has the potential to be, ie the best final ever!!
If that happens then they will all emerge as winners, as will we the viewers, and who actually lifts the glitterball will be largely irrelevant in my eyes!!

Georgia, Jay, Katie, Kellie!! Four great dancers!! Good luck to them all & may they all be winners on the night!!

That's what I would like from the final!!
DeltaBlues
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“There's no such thing as the "wrong" couple. Whoever the public votes as winners are rightfully winners. I'd be happy with any of the final four lifting the trophy as they've all, at one time or another, danced my favourite dance during a particular week.”

Echo this.
Alli-F
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“IMO K&K will lift the Glitterball

I feel another Tom Chambers year”



Tom Chambers was never in the bottom 2 until he couldn't escape it in the semi final even as public favourite and he was public favourite long before final. Lisa is more the equivalent of Kellie imo
j4Rose
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“Tom Chambers was never in the bottom 2 until he couldn't escape it in the semi final even as public favourite and he was public favourite long before final. Lisa is more the equivalent of Kellie imo”

I think Kellie is better than Lisa was and better than most give her credit for. A lot of people can't get past the loud personality and OTT/silly routines which weren't her fault.
tabithakitten
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“IMO K&K will lift the Glitterball

I feel another Tom Chambers year”

If you're referring to the idea that Tom's showdance was somehow the key to him winning his series, I think you're wrong.

As Alli said - Tom was never in a dance off. His vote was almost certainly higher than both his rivals' vote all the way through the series. He won the semi-final vote. His showdance did nothing more than draw a line under his already superior popularity.

This hasn't been the case with Kellie. She's been in two dance offs. There's been relatively little to suggest she can pull this off. She doesn't poll well and the comments about her (and Kevin) on forums aren't great in the main. Her youtube viewings aren't good.

There's been a lot of talk about her gaining momentum. I think it's mainly manufactured. Yes, she beat Georgia in Musicals week but that's the only evidence showing she's gained any popularity at all since she plummeted to a dance off after the waltz. Otherwise, it's been a shored-up leaderboard position (I'm not saying it wasn't deserved) and a lot of hype. She'll have a showdance that suits her, I reckon. Unfortunately (for her and Kevin), even with that, I don't think she's got enough fans of what suits her to pull her through.
JaneFinn
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“All I want is for all four couples to dance to their very best standard & make it what it has the potential to be, ie the best final ever!!
If that happens then they will all emerge as winners, as will we the viewers, and who actually lifts the glitterball will be largely irrelevant in my eyes!!

Georgia, Jay, Katie, Kellie!! Four great dancers!! Good luck to them all & may they all be winners on the night!!

That's what I would like from the final!!”

Just how I feel too

I guess I do have a little bit of me that feels that Katie has 'earned' it least (in consistency and standard, not popularity or effort) so I'd prefer any of the other three to win. BUT my main priority by far is that they all dance their absolute best, and that no one feels they've messed up or 'failed' ... That way they'll all be winners on the night. Then I'd be happy to celebrate with whoever the audience chose to lift the glitterball.
Penny Crayon
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“I think Kellie is better than Lisa was and better than most give her credit for. A lot of people can't get past the loud personality and OTT/silly routines which weren't her fault.”

I would agree with that. I think she's a very good dancer. I'd be OK with K&K lifting the trophy - I really would prefer Jay though. There's even something inside me that wouldn't begrudge Katie and Anton.

Don't really want Georgia though - not sure why but - she's never blown me away TBh.
midflight
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Happened with Tom Chambers - his and Camilla's showdance stole the show!
”

Still the best ever. Yet it didn't receive a single point from any of the judges.

0/40 - now THAT'S a fix!
Three Left Feet
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“The showdance was too late to have an impact - it was actually the last dance in those days. It was just a reasoning used by many to justify voting for a weaker dancer (although I loved Tom and was rooting for him the whole series). It was a huge backlash year as the judges had got rid of Austin who was shaping up to be another Gough/Ramps man's man who could dance (ugh!). Once Austin left, the viewers wanted vengeance against the perceived judges faves (Lisa and Rachel) so Tom was always going to win it from that point on.

Edit: just remembered there was also the semi final fiasco that year where it looked like the judges had fixed it to make it impossible for the viewer vote to make a difference and keep Tom in.”

It was probable that Tom was already topping the phone vote before Oz went out. If Oz had been topping the phone vote he wouldn't have been in the DO that did for him. Ditto Lisa, though her unpopularity was obvious from her multiple DO appearances. Rachel probably wasn't either as she'd been in a few DOs as well.
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