Kellie and Jay are the only two I'm interested in seeing in the final.
I'll be happy to see either of them win.
I'll be happy to see either of them win.
I think Kellie is going to win.
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Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Where are all those "it's so unfair, friggin' ringer!!" threads this year? Oh, that's right, everyone's keeping quiet because it isn't a female ringer, but a fresh faced pretty boy who's made a lot of knickers wet.
It's absolutely pathetic, cannot stand the double standard on this forum. The amount of abuse Denise, Natalie and Pixie got was unbelievable but the male version is perfectly acceptable.”
“Where are all those "it's so unfair, friggin' ringer!!" threads this year? Oh, that's right, everyone's keeping quiet because it isn't a female ringer, but a fresh faced pretty boy who's made a lot of knickers wet.
It's absolutely pathetic, cannot stand the double standard on this forum. The amount of abuse Denise, Natalie and Pixie got was unbelievable but the male version is perfectly acceptable.”
Yuk what a filthy post, as well as patronising to any female who likes him. So youre saying no gay women vote for him?
Originally Posted by basdfg:
“Told you. Everything possible will be done to make Kellie and Kevin the winner because Kevin knows that next year he will have to have duffer no matter what even if the brown envelopes burst.”
“Told you. Everything possible will be done to make Kellie and Kevin the winner because Kevin knows that next year he will have to have duffer no matter what even if the brown envelopes burst.”
What are you on about?
Kellie ands Kevin should win! They've been easily the most consistent and i genuinely believe she's the beat dancer.
And to the person who said it would be an insult if Kellie won : as oppose to Katie winning who can just about pull of Ballroom and ONLY Ballroom. Kellie is a fantastic dancer and she so deserves to win.
Team KK for the win!!
And to the person who said it would be an insult if Kellie won : as oppose to Katie winning who can just about pull of Ballroom and ONLY Ballroom. Kellie is a fantastic dancer and she so deserves to win.
Team KK for the win!!
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I don't know why, but my gut is telling me she will pull out the stops on Saturday and win. They have a good song choice for their showdance, and if they do a Tom Chambers style one they will walk it IMO.
It would certainly be a nice surprise. No disrespect to Jay, who I am a big fan of but its kind of boring when the winner is a forgone conclusion.”
“I don't know why, but my gut is telling me she will pull out the stops on Saturday and win. They have a good song choice for their showdance, and if they do a Tom Chambers style one they will walk it IMO.
It would certainly be a nice surprise. No disrespect to Jay, who I am a big fan of but its kind of boring when the winner is a forgone conclusion.”
Most of the bookies are saying Jay is odds on favourite to win if that's the case what's the point of the other finalists I enjoy watching Georgia.
Originally Posted by Stephen_101:
“Kellie ands Kevin should win! They've been easily the most consistent and i genuinely believe she's the beat dancer.
And to the person who said it would be an insult if Kellie won : as oppose to Katie winning who can just about pull of Ballroom and ONLY Ballroom. Kellie is a fantastic dancer and she so deserves to win.
Team KK for the win!!”
“Kellie ands Kevin should win! They've been easily the most consistent and i genuinely believe she's the beat dancer.
And to the person who said it would be an insult if Kellie won : as oppose to Katie winning who can just about pull of Ballroom and ONLY Ballroom. Kellie is a fantastic dancer and she so deserves to win.
Team KK for the win!!
”
She has improved...tbh didn't think that much of her in the first few weeks.
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“But nowhere near as nuts when Jay DOES win, and I just can't wait for that!
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“But nowhere near as nuts when Jay DOES win, and I just can't wait for that!
”
the forum will explode if Jay doesn't win and stranger things have happened, I like Kevin, and Kellie has some dramatic storylines at the moment so she's done well to cope with EE filming and dance training, but I'd love to see Team GG win
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Yuk what a filthy post, as well as patronising to any female who likes him. So youre saying no gay women vote for him?”
“Yuk what a filthy post, as well as patronising to any female who likes him. So youre saying no gay women vote for him?”
Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?”
“Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?”
Probably because he's not the most experienced dancer of them all. The 3 mentioned above had far more extensive training than Jay. And this year - Helen & Kellie had the same (or more extensive) dance/theatre training.
And none of them had ballroom training.
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Having a lindy hop show dance and Charleston favourite dance seems a bit samey to me. Wonder what their judges choice is?”
“Having a lindy hop show dance and Charleston favourite dance seems a bit samey to me. Wonder what their judges choice is?”
Kellie is a former pupil of the Sylvia Young Theatre School, Georgia also had lots of dance training, but plays it down. It is far harder for the male celeb dancers than the female dancers.
kellie could win, their trajectory has worked well for them and their show dance could be a crowd pleaser. i don't think their charleston will match up to G&G though.
poor jay. i really don't know how he's made it so far given that the story appears to be its harder for boys and anyway he's had less training than anyone else.
Originally Posted by primer:
“poor jay. i really don't know how he's made it so far given that the story appears to be its harder for boys and anyway he's had less training than anyone else.”
“poor jay. i really don't know how he's made it so far given that the story appears to be its harder for boys and anyway he's had less training than anyone else.”
Bigger feet, more likely to go A over T in front of the judges.
Not that they'd mention it.
Originally Posted by MrEdgarFinchley:
“Bigger feet, more likely to go A over T in front of the judges.
Not that they'd mention it.”
“Bigger feet, more likely to go A over T in front of the judges.
Not that they'd mention it.”
Really??? They seem to mention the slightest mistakes Jay makes while conveniently being oblivious to the same mistakes made by others. I don't mind Kellie, she's a hard worker but there's no way she will win
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?”
“Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?”
Jay's had more abuse than Pixie Lott got. Not as much as the other two, I grant you.
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?”
“Reserved could have made his / her point more decorously, but that does not make it invalid. It is certainly true that Jay, the most experienced dancer of them all, has suffered nothing like the slings and arrows that were aimed at Pixie Lott, Denise van Outen and Natalie Gumede in recent years. Why is that, one might ask?”
Jays has his fair share of critics. Didn't he drop out of ballet school for bullying? Maybe half of his fans warm to him for his humility, certainly compared to Denise. I think what exacerbated the dislike for her was some saw two big egos together when she was partnered with Jordan. I like Jay and liked Pixie for being nice characters. Natalie, imo, was also difficult to take to because her great technicality outweighed any evidence of personality and/or warmth. It's the same reason I can't get behind Georgia; I just can't take to the girl personality wise and that's part of their appeal for me.
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Jays has his fair share of critics. Didn't he drop out of ballet school for bullying? Maybe half of his fans warm to him for his humility, certainly compared to Denise. I think what exacerbated the dislike for her was some saw two big egos together when she was partnered with Jordan. I like Jay and liked Pixie for being nice characters. Natalie, imo, was also difficult to take to because her great technicality outweighed any evidence of personality and/or warmth. It's the same reason I can't get behind Georgia; I just can't take to the girl personality wise and that's part of their appeal for me.”
“Jays has his fair share of critics. Didn't he drop out of ballet school for bullying? Maybe half of his fans warm to him for his humility, certainly compared to Denise. I think what exacerbated the dislike for her was some saw two big egos together when she was partnered with Jordan. I like Jay and liked Pixie for being nice characters. Natalie, imo, was also difficult to take to because her great technicality outweighed any evidence of personality and/or warmth. It's the same reason I can't get behind Georgia; I just can't take to the girl personality wise and that's part of their appeal for me.”
Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeally nice.
Originally Posted by Sabbatical:
“Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeelly nice.”
“Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeelly nice.”
Or young and male .That also seems to help .
Originally Posted by Sabbatical:
“Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeally nice.”
“Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeally nice.”
A fair post Sabb
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Jays has his fair share of critics. Didn't he drop out of ballet school for bullying? Maybe half of his fans warm to him for his humility, certainly compared to Denise. I think what exacerbated the dislike for her was some saw two big egos together when she was partnered with Jordan. I like Jay and liked Pixie for being nice characters. Natalie, imo, was also difficult to take to because her great technicality outweighed any evidence of personality and/or warmth. It's the same reason I can't get behind Georgia; I just can't take to the girl personality wise and that's part of their appeal for me.”
“Jays has his fair share of critics. Didn't he drop out of ballet school for bullying? Maybe half of his fans warm to him for his humility, certainly compared to Denise. I think what exacerbated the dislike for her was some saw two big egos together when she was partnered with Jordan. I like Jay and liked Pixie for being nice characters. Natalie, imo, was also difficult to take to because her great technicality outweighed any evidence of personality and/or warmth. It's the same reason I can't get behind Georgia; I just can't take to the girl personality wise and that's part of their appeal for me.”
Interesting comment and true. I quite liked DvO before she was on SCD. Can't bear the sight of her now. Didn't know Natalie Gumede before but was always struck by how lovely she was in film we saw outside training when she was with Hairy Biker Dave and Mark Benton. Quite different to the dancer but then again she was paired with Artem ... Pixie's partnership with Trent allowed her personality to shine through the dances so the coupling does matter. It is hard to dislike Jay or begrudge him winning even though I'm supporting others.
Bias again towards Kellie on it takes two by having Tameka Emspon on the panel supporting Kellie while no freinds of the others appeared.
Originally Posted by Sabbatical:
“Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeally nice.”
“Think this is a good summary of the whole ringer thing. Basically, if the perceived ringer is likeable, as Jay is, they will be forgiven by most and only beaten with this stick by those with a strong alternative favourite. If the perceived ringer generally comes across badly, it's the easiest and most convenient stick for everyone. Tip for contestants 2016: if you've danced before, you've got to be reeeally nice.”
You can't try to be really nice though. It has to be sincere and part of the personality. Trying to be nice when in fact the celeb is highly focussed and competitive does not work.
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“Or young and male .That also seems to help .”
“Or young and male .That also seems to help .”
Certainly doesn't hurt, but don't think it would be enough without the likeable. Lucky Jay that he's all three!
Originally Posted by basdfg:
“Bias again towards Kellie on it takes two by having Tameka Emspon on the panel supporting Kellie while no freinds of the others appeared.”
“Bias again towards Kellie on it takes two by having Tameka Emspon on the panel supporting Kellie while no freinds of the others appeared.”
Not again! Your conspiracy theory runs amok. You do realise that others will feel as you do and so her inclusion in the panel will no doubt hinder rather than help Kellie with the public vote.
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