Strictly Come Dancing Grand Final 2015 - BBC One - 19/12/15 - 6.35pm/9.00pm

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vixyvic

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“He didn't dance bad by any stretch of the imagination. It was simply beautiful - I think Aliona misread the 'vibe' - I think she thought his beautiful moves could be best appreciated if she kept it simple. Sometimes the audience want a bit more pazazz - it's a fine line.

Last week Anita and Gleb was all pazazz and no technique or beauty - they paid the price.

It's a balancing act.”

Good analysis.

duckylucky

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“The things most people are tweeting about ”

Thank you

trevord

19-12-2015

Majority of people on Twitter seem to want Jay to win. He has been only the third best dancer tonight. It's a shame that so many people seem to decide who they are going to vote for BEFORE they watch the actual show. It would seem to defy the entire point.

nelliek

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by nelliek:
“I'm pretty certain that the year Ramps and Karen won each couple danced 5 dances.”

Ooops. Might only have been four.
According to wikipedia Ramps & Karen danced a tango, salsa, and samba; Matt Dawson and Lilia danced waltz, samba, quickstep. Plus their showdances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict...Week_12:_Final

Series 5 also had a two-couple final (Matt D'Angelo and Alesha Dixon) who each did three dances plus their showdance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict...Week_12:_Final

BethnalGreen

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by tigragirl:
“I've just watched Jays Jive, bloody brilliant.”

Sadly, that means sod all for tonight though! lol

BFGArmy

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by Pasta:
“There's a fundamental problem with the current format of the final; 'Judges' Choice' tends to deliver dances the contestants don't want to do and the viewers don't want to watch, while show-dances almost always promise more than they deliver. We don't see dances that we want to see until the second half.”

Agreed.

Could do with replacing the Judges Choice with the Publics choice - say a poll with 4 dances by the partners and the public pick their favourite for the celebrity to dance.

Much more transparent and allows the public to see a routine they want again. I'll be honest I'd totally forgotten what Kellie's tango and Katie's quickstep were like until tonight.

J_W3

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Agree, most showdances are a bit disappointing, only a few very good and some are SPECTACULARLY crap.

Every year.”

lol exactly. I'm guessing that's why the showdance is no longer the final dance we see, especially as it's often the best dancers of the series who end up with the spectacular crap, and then we end up with a Chris Hollins with the glitter ball in his hands!

Penfolds_place

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“What a hobbler that it's not being performed as their favourite dance. No one could touch them if so. It's better than St. Jill's.”

I don't get why they didn't pick it. I don't particularly want Jay to win, but I would have thought fair enough if he had smashed the jive and then went onto win. As it stands it looks likely he will win but on lacklustre dances (so far).

BFGArmy

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by trevord:
“Majority of people on Twitter seem to want Jay to win. He has been only the third best dancer tonight. It's a shame that so many people seem to decide who they are going to vote for BEFORE they watch the actual show. It would seem to defy the entire point.”

The point of the show - especially the final - is that the public vote for who they want to win. Whatever criteria they use to vote is up to them at the end of the day.

NatashaSmythe

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by catslovelycats:
“Vote for who you want to win”

I went on the couple who I like the most and gave my votes to GG.

vixyvic

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by nelliek:
“Ooops. Might only have been four.
According to wikipedia Ramps & Karen danced a tango, salsa, and samba; Matt Dawson and Lilia danced waltz, samba, quickstep. Plus their showdances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict...Week_12:_Final

Series 5 also had a two-couple final (Matt D'Angelo and Alesha Dixon) who each did three dances plus their showdance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict...Week_12:_Final”

I loved Mark Ramprakash

LolaSvelt

19-12-2015

Rather appropriate that Georgia danced to Fix You considering she was screwed out of a possible win tonight.

brendans babe

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“Not a twittery person .What does trending mean ?”

Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“The things most people are tweeting about ”

Mr Bernay got there before m!

'Strictly' is trending on its own which is a general one but the other one is just about Jay! It takes a fair bit of tweeting to get something trending!

smilliekylie

19-12-2015

The public gets what the public wants, Mr Paul Weller once sang. These are the finalists the GBP wanted, so you gets what ya wanted.
I thought the Final would be a bit flat without Anita and Gleb, and it was. Whatever you thought of them, kinda know their show dance would have been amazing.
It end up a bit meh, no surprise to me

shelleyj89

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Jay's showdance was brutal . Dropped him in on his head and then put aliona in huge yellow granny knickers under her sexy gold dress .
He just regurgitated his previously tried and tested moves and waved his arms around a lot , nothing new other than dropping in on his head and a rictus smile glued to his face .”

And there was me thinking you were going to love it, Heather.

James_Laverty

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Agree, most showdances are a bit disappointing, only a few very good and some are SPECTACULARLY crap.

Every year.”

I never enjoy the showdances, always feel underawed and rather we'd see the couples either perform another previous dance or preferably, there is one dance that is saved for the final, done by all couples, as a better comparison.

I think Jay has been the best throughout the series but he wasn't the best dancer tonight. I actually liked his showdance as a routine but as people have said it wasn't completely memorable.

nina99

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“It's Geovanni georgia not Joe Varney or Joe.”

Actually Georgia is pronouncing it quite correctly. In Italian Gio is pronounced Joe. The i is not sounded.

duckylucky

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by brendans babe:
“Mr Bernay got there before m!

'Strictly' is trending on its own which is a general one but the other one is just about Jay! It takes a fair bit of tweeting to get something trending!”

Thanks

blindside

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Agreed.

Could do with replacing the Judges Choice with the Publics choice - say a poll with 4 dances by the partners and the public pick their favourite for the celebrity to dance.

Much more transparent and allows the public to see a routine they want again.”

A potential problem with this I guess could be that if the public were in a 'naughty' mood, they could sway it for a couple to get a dance that did them no favours ie. Katie & Anton having to re-visit a Latin routine

Penny Crayon

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by arddunol:
“I think that is a tad unfair , he danced the show dance beautifully, but it wasn't what everyone expected. He can't be criticised for doing what he is given well.

I have found it a disappointing final so far and for blatant judge bias I have never seen anything like tonight.
I haven't seen one dance worth 10.”

Judges aren't presenters. they aren't commentators - they are judges - the judge - of course it will be biased - they will give the highest score to who they perceived danced best - that's what judges do.

bendymixer

19-12-2015

Kellie trending as well now

trevvytrev21

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by Penfolds_place:
“I don't get why they didn't pick it. I don't particularly want Jay to win, but I would have thought fair enough if he had smashed the jive and then went onto win. As it stands it looks likely he will win but on lacklustre dances (so far).”

Exactly this. None of his dances tonight have been showstoppers like Kellie or Georgia. That jive is in my personal top three tbh.

Kellie's 40/40 tango is very, very similar to Lisa's forgettable 40/40 cha cha. And to think Kara and Alesha never got full marks -embarrassing.

Cloudy2

19-12-2015

Or perhaps people are voting for Jay based on the whole series.

Camino

19-12-2015

Originally Posted by BethnalGreen:
“Sadly, that means sod all for tonight though! lol ”

Is jay not dancing the jive for his final dance?

Mr_XcX

19-12-2015

Also, which producer gave the disastrous idea of giving Katie the last slot of the 1st show. She is probably out 4th anyway but come on now....

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