Agree! Kellie/Kevin seemed to be slotted in to provide the big show, but I'd have much preferred Anita/Gleb.


Well said on both counts. No disappointment from me that Jay won, despite the underwhelming final.

As Jay said himself after winning - he thinks he's much the same person, just way better at being on Strictly.

Jay happens to be quite a unique type of person - in a good way, and Aliona adapted to who he is. Their approach to the final was not all about winning - it was about their time together coming to a close. Their time together is worth much, much, more to them than the glitterball.

They are telling the truth in their after-Final interview.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ners-interview

As Aliona said, they had a blast.

Now they each have to move on with their lives, but will stay friends.

Thank goodness for that.

BIB: that's a bigger disappointment for me than anything else.

I agree

Lol, "friends"...we all saw the looks they exchanged at the end. They're more than friends.

He could have forgotton moves and fell over in every dance he done last night and he still would have won!

I thought they were rather over doing the special moments, never going to dance again with you the way we danced before stuff... And was grateful when Georgia reminded them they'd be dancing together on the tour....

I think on tonight's show Kellie did slightly out dance Jay, but that was mainly due to the show dance which he performed very well, it was simply not 'showy' enough which was really down to Aliona. The problem with Kellie is she only ever seemed to be really good at the high energy 'show' type dances, far less so in ballroom. This was where Jay seems more versatile.

Also if strongly disagree that males have an advantage! Maybe they do in some respect with regard the female vote, though I'm male and he was my choice. In terms of the dancing however they have a MUCH harder time than the female dancers. It's simply a fact that the male lead is harder than the female role. Whilst often mentioned by the judges it's never really factor into the scoring.

This keeps getting mentioned and it actually wasn't. There is very little of either the film or stage production Fosse choreography in Georgia's number only a few iconic elements (the over the head arm movement for one).



As opposed to all the other years there's been a good looking young man who didn't win? Up until yesterday it was an even 50 50 split.

I know the film inside out and when I watched Georgia perform her dance first time, I was struck by how many steps I recognised from that routine - obviously not the lifts, but quite a bit of the side-by-side stuff.

hi VicsMum, sorry to crop your post a bit I do like Jay and enjoy watching him dance but Aliona did look as though she'd been given a bowl of custard instead of the Glitterball, obviously not a lady to show her emotions too much, unlike Karen when she won with Ramps

I just wish for once they would try to get non trained celebrities to compete. Jay definitely had years of training as I am sure some of the others did.
I was rooting for Katie or Anita to be truthful and of course Jeremy. Katie was good but I thought Anita was terrific for someone with no dance training at all.

She'll still score 40 regardless!

If she'd been given a bowl of custard she'd have been delighted and jumped head first into it!

True...I watched a clip of her from Strictly a few years back and I think it was where they were showing the viewers where they lived...and she said that she loved Custard.

I think what is most disappointing is that Jay ended up being a bit of a wasted talent.

He has fantastic technical ability but badly needed some lessons in performing and getting some feeling into his dancing. I felt that because he didn't most of his dances aside from the jive fell a bit flat and had something missing, his other dances could have been so much better if Aliona had got some help for him to correct that.

I think that was his position at the start of the contest and quite honestly I don't think he improved from that across the series. The final was quite underwhelming, he didn't dance particularly well in the first dance and the show-dance didn't contain any show, although he performed it very well for what it was. His Paso was excellent though and barring the smile, I thought it deserved a 40 mark.

I think if Aliona had tried to keep him pushing on in the series and sorted out the issues in performing the dances he would have utterly smashed it and been a very well deserved winner. As it was he won on the basis of being a nice shy lad that everyone liked, some people fancied and who could put his arms and feet in the correct position at any given moment.

I felt more of a shame for Georgia and even Kellie both of whom I think became better all-round dancers and who both performed better in the final.

Yes, I think you sum up my thoughts on this very well. Jay started with a good technical ability, but was somewhat lacking in the performance side. Many people justified their love/like for Jay because of the dancing and who cares about his face. Sadly, when finals night came around, both Georgia and Kellie upstaged him (IMO of course) which meant that he paled comparison to them both dance-wise and performance-wise.

I don't mind Jay winning but I DID feel a bit sad that the other two lost out (especially Kellie who I felt really upped her game from the semis onwards). Hopefully they will take some consolation from the fact that they had given it their best and there was nothing else they could have done to prevent Jay from winning, given the public support he has had from their Week 3 jive.

The patronising posts about why Jay won are hilarious!

Almost as hilarious as some of his more fanatical fans describing how emotionally connected they felt to all his dancing and how he understood the music and the dance so well that it really brought out the passion and intensity he obviously has for performing.

This, about a man who cannot arrange his face into one decent expression for the duration of a dance.

His face is arranged perfectly for me...

Well that was a big rant 😳 So if I'm right you are trying to say
It was all young females or young woman 🙃 Well I'm in my later
years and I voted for him and my husband loved his dancing and
handed me the phone.... So think you are wrong and out of order
as we are allowed to vote for our choice not pushed to vote for
Someone else 😡

Ha...ahahahahahahaa....no.

There's more to dancing than making faces.

With the greatest respect, I'd say that Jay ticked two big boxes with the SCD core audience - which is female-skewed: the younger viewers would fancy him and the older viewers would want to mother him. He's not the first contestant to benefit from this, and he certainly won't be the last. BTW I'm not imposing this interpretation on why you chose to vote for Jay - but I strongly suspect both those factors helped him in a way that it would never help any of the female contestants.

I'd mind this less if there'd been an ounce of showmanship in his performances. He may well have been the best technically - hardly surprising given that he is a trained dancer (and I mean trained dancer, as opposed to an actor who may have had some dance training at stage school - there's a big difference). But, for me, he failed to bring any personality onto the dance floor in the way Kellie or Georgia clearly did. The show-less show dance said it all - perfect moves but where was the pizzazz? Jay defending it as understated just highlights his lack of understanding of what a show dance actually is.

As I've said previously, Jay's victory was a foregone conclusion. What was shocking was how he brought so little of himself to SCD and still managed to walk away with the trophy.

And no, I'm not bitter - I didn't really feel that strongly who won as I knew it would be Jay. But I do wonder what he did Strictly for ...

If you're not bitter, then why are you applying sexist reasons for voting (Ugh, girls, innit? Just voting for the pretty boy. Or dem old birds, just voting for the boy they want to mother. Not voting for REAL dancing, like us logical men, right?) instead of just accepting that people liked his dancing and thought he was a decent human being?