I don't recall any of the 13 finals having a surprise winner. By that point it's pretty damn obvious who is going to win.
If there any point to the final?
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Tell you what. Have their photos up for week 1.
Week 2 photos of them as babies.
Week 3 sick or better still dead Nans grt wheeled out.
Week 4 vox pops with loveable rough diamonds off the street.
Then everyone could vote for their favourite.
Sorted.
Week 2 photos of them as babies.
Week 3 sick or better still dead Nans grt wheeled out.
Week 4 vox pops with loveable rough diamonds off the street.
Then everyone could vote for their favourite.
Sorted.
Originally Posted by QwaarJet:
“This, completely. It's Louis Smith part 2.”
“This, completely. It's Louis Smith part 2.”
Louis scored the same as Kimberley in the final, it's not a bit like tonight.
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Yes tonight the judges have proved there is a point. They can ridiculously overmark one couple in the hope it will either: a) sway the public or b) cowardly protect their own hinds when the REAL favourite wins. Just so they can say they didnt back him. They have all lost credibility tonight as judges for the transparent collective plan they bought into”
“Yes tonight the judges have proved there is a point. They can ridiculously overmark one couple in the hope it will either: a) sway the public or b) cowardly protect their own hinds when the REAL favourite wins. Just so they can say they didnt back him. They have all lost credibility tonight as judges for the transparent collective plan they bought into”
You have no evidence at all to back up your unpleasant allegations. Collective plan? Whose? Where was this collective(listen very carefully I shall say this only once) plan devised? Who organised it? When did the meetings take place and where?
In my opinion Kellie was the best on the night and the Judges were also of that view. The great viewing public thought otherwise. End of story.
Originally Posted by bradvilla:
“Maybe the way forward is instead of the final, you have a gala, where during the week people could vote on each contestants best dance they want them to dance again, as well as a vote for the winner, which would be announced at the end of the gala”
“Maybe the way forward is instead of the final, you have a gala, where during the week people could vote on each contestants best dance they want them to dance again, as well as a vote for the winner, which would be announced at the end of the gala”
Now this is an idea, pitch it to the producers please!
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“.....
It really is high time that certain negative Forum posters understood that in numbers they are really minute and unimportant in their numbers to the vast numbers of viewers who do tune in for the Final. So we discount you.”
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It really is high time that certain negative Forum posters understood that in numbers they are really minute and unimportant in their numbers to the vast numbers of viewers who do tune in for the Final. So we discount you.”
I just can't discount the number of times you crammed the word 'numbers' into one sentence.
Originally Posted by bradvilla:
“Now I'm not asking because I'm upset by the result, I didn't mind who won. My point is simply this, people have basically already decided who they want to win and who they will vote for, so it basically doesn't matter what they do in the final. Unless your favourite starts goose stepping and saluting in the middle of the dance, you aren't going to change your vote.
So my question is, why bother with the final?”
“Now I'm not asking because I'm upset by the result, I didn't mind who won. My point is simply this, people have basically already decided who they want to win and who they will vote for, so it basically doesn't matter what they do in the final. Unless your favourite starts goose stepping and saluting in the middle of the dance, you aren't going to change your vote.
So my question is, why bother with the final?”
no point
Originally Posted by jeffiner1892:
“Louis scored the same as Kimberley in the final, it's not a bit like tonight.”
“Louis scored the same as Kimberley in the final, it's not a bit like tonight.”
Of course it is.Inferior dancer wins easily over other two because he has a penis.
Originally Posted by Jim Kowalski:
“Of course it is.Inferior dancer wins easily over other two because he has a penis.”
“Of course it is.Inferior dancer wins easily over other two because he has a penis.”
Final marks in 2012:
Denise: 39, 40, 40
Kimberley: 39, 39, 40
Louis: 39, 40, 39
Same marks as Kimberley and one point behind Denise. Whatever about being inferior to TRAINED DANCER Denise, his marks were the same as Kimberley's (who was awarded a perfect score in the semi for a Charleston that MY untrained eye spotted mistakes in).
The Olympic factor helped but he wasn't inferior to either of the girls on the night.
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Just like the Olymipics closing ceremony (which is utterly pointless but extremely expensive and watchable) you need the final finale to finish off the long long show.
In previous years there have been boring finals with only 2 couples doing multiple dances each to fill in the time, so this year we were lucky enough to have 4 finalists. The 12 voted out contestants were delighted to be back for their old school reunion and excellent group dance to finish things off in style. The guest singer had a really weak voice - that's my only negative remark, apart from Dave Arch starting "O Fortuna" off too slow.
It really is high time that certain negative Forum posters understood that in numbers they are really minute and unimportant in their numbers to the vast numbers of viewers who do tune in for the Final. So we discount you.
Tonight, it was a very joyful show, the dancing of high quality (tho some choreography was criticised) and one of the top 3 won, a laid-back pop star and a visibly astonished and moved pro. Such a welcome contrast with Caroline Flack of last year.
With this send-off they will all go off to a huge party to celebrate.
And that is why they held a Series final.”
“Just like the Olymipics closing ceremony (which is utterly pointless but extremely expensive and watchable) you need the final finale to finish off the long long show.
In previous years there have been boring finals with only 2 couples doing multiple dances each to fill in the time, so this year we were lucky enough to have 4 finalists. The 12 voted out contestants were delighted to be back for their old school reunion and excellent group dance to finish things off in style. The guest singer had a really weak voice - that's my only negative remark, apart from Dave Arch starting "O Fortuna" off too slow.
It really is high time that certain negative Forum posters understood that in numbers they are really minute and unimportant in their numbers to the vast numbers of viewers who do tune in for the Final. So we discount you.
Tonight, it was a very joyful show, the dancing of high quality (tho some choreography was criticised) and one of the top 3 won, a laid-back pop star and a visibly astonished and moved pro. Such a welcome contrast with Caroline Flack of last year.
With this send-off they will all go off to a huge party to celebrate.
And that is why they held a Series final.”
Aliona astonished & moved - she knew she was going to win with Jay like all of us knew so I hate to think what her reaction would have been had they lost.
Originally Posted by SwanGirl:
“I think the final is still valid, look at Darren Gough winning over Colin Jackson pretty much due to Colin's abysmal show dance. Then we had Tom and Camilla whose show dance won them the show so things CAN change on finals night.
Jay has been popular throughout and even if Georgia and Kellie had scored 80 and Jay got 20 he still would have won. He's been consistent, it's not like he is a terrible dancer who totally didn't deserve to win, the show dance not being 'Wow!' was more down to Aliona than him, he danced it well. He's obviously got fans of the Wanted behind him and people like me supported him because of his overall adorableness. I know, I know that people will say 'It's a dance show, you vote for the best on the night!' but for me he's been the reason I kept watching the series this year so no matter what the women did, and they did an amazing job, they weren't getting my vote.”
“I think the final is still valid, look at Darren Gough winning over Colin Jackson pretty much due to Colin's abysmal show dance. Then we had Tom and Camilla whose show dance won them the show so things CAN change on finals night.
Jay has been popular throughout and even if Georgia and Kellie had scored 80 and Jay got 20 he still would have won. He's been consistent, it's not like he is a terrible dancer who totally didn't deserve to win, the show dance not being 'Wow!' was more down to Aliona than him, he danced it well. He's obviously got fans of the Wanted behind him and people like me supported him because of his overall adorableness. I know, I know that people will say 'It's a dance show, you vote for the best on the night!' but for me he's been the reason I kept watching the series this year so no matter what the women did, and they did an amazing job, they weren't getting my vote.”
Tom was winning before the final let alone the show dance. He just acquired a female vote, that didn't vote for the best dancer. And he had had that showdance in his kit bag since drama school. Darren's at least had a journey story going for him.
Originally Posted by Jim Kowalski:
“Of course it is.Inferior dancer wins easily over other two because he has a penis.”
“Of course it is.Inferior dancer wins easily over other two because he has a penis.”
So, have penis and swing it?
Originally Posted by Heavenly:
“We both knew this competition ended after week 3
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“We both knew this competition ended after week 3
”
I quite agree...Since week 3, the result has been a foregone conclusion..
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Yes tonight the judges have proved there is a point. They can ridiculously overmark one couple in the hope it will either: a) sway the public or b) cowardly protect their own hinds when the REAL favourite wins. Just so they can say they didnt back him. They have all lost credibility tonight as judges for the transparent collective plan they bought into”
“Yes tonight the judges have proved there is a point. They can ridiculously overmark one couple in the hope it will either: a) sway the public or b) cowardly protect their own hinds when the REAL favourite wins. Just so they can say they didnt back him. They have all lost credibility tonight as judges for the transparent collective plan they bought into”
Or the judges job is to mark who they think is the best regardless of the public vote. I rather like the fact that they don't pander to the public actually.
Originally Posted by bradvilla:
“Now I'm not asking because I'm upset by the result, I didn't mind who won. My point is simply this, people have basically already decided who they want to win and who they will vote for, so it basically doesn't matter what they do in the final. Unless your favourite starts goose stepping and saluting in the middle of the dance, you aren't going to change your vote.
So my question is, why bother with the final?”
“Now I'm not asking because I'm upset by the result, I didn't mind who won. My point is simply this, people have basically already decided who they want to win and who they will vote for, so it basically doesn't matter what they do in the final. Unless your favourite starts goose stepping and saluting in the middle of the dance, you aren't going to change your vote.
So my question is, why bother with the final?”
It depends how you view it. We all know its a popularity contest in the end, but we need to have one - it would be a bit ridiculous cancelling it - I always enjoy the show and it has to come to an end. Also, although some years (like this one) we know who the winner is going to be from week 4, its not always like that - it can be tight and unpredictable in other years - and the dances on the night can make a difference sometimes.
And it still can be enjoyable, even if you know who's going to win. I knew Jay had it in the bag from about week 4. I still looked forward to the final and really enjoyed it, even though I support Georgia and knew she had no chance of winning regardless of what she did on the night. I wanted her to get through to the final 3, perform 3 good dances, get to do her Charleston again and get 40 this time. She did it, Shes learned so much and showed everyone what shes capable of over the weeks. Winning the popularity vote is outwith her control - but for me she achieved everything else that she possibly could. I still really enjoyed the final and didn't mind seeing Jay win at all - probably because (like Kevin said) I don't consider coming top in popularity with the public vote (who vote for a variety of different reasons - many unrelated to dance and performance) as the most important thing, given what they have gone through and achieved already - although its a nice thing to get.
I think there is. A stunning showdance can change things, particularly with a lot of swing voters, which I'm sure some seasons have.
Originally Posted by Linda_Dean:
“I think there is. A stunning showdance can change things, particularly with a lot of swing voters, which I'm sure some seasons have.”
“I think there is. A stunning showdance can change things, particularly with a lot of swing voters, which I'm sure some seasons have.”
The year Abbey Clancy won being a case in point. I suspect few would have bet on Natalie making the final 3 over Sophie, but she did.
final should be decided the same as any other week. I agree Katie danced better than Jay on the night and still placed lower and Jay on the dancing on the night should have gone before Katie and the judes marked Jay higher becuase they need their eyes testing
Originally Posted by Phil Ander:
“You have no evidence at all to back up your unpleasant allegations. Collective plan? Whose? Where was this collective(listen very carefully I shall say this only once) plan devised? Who organised it? When did the meetings take place and where?
In my opinion Kellie was the best on the night and the Judges were also of that view. The great viewing public thought otherwise. End of story.”
“You have no evidence at all to back up your unpleasant allegations. Collective plan? Whose? Where was this collective(listen very carefully I shall say this only once) plan devised? Who organised it? When did the meetings take place and where?
In my opinion Kellie was the best on the night and the Judges were also of that view. The great viewing public thought otherwise. End of story.”
What is with some of you FMs asking for evidence when somebody has an opinion?
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