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Shameful judges manipulation to get Mr Clifton the glitter ball
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Leicester_Hunk
19-12-2015
Judges clearly has their "winners". So glad it backfired. The public are not stupid.
claire2281
19-12-2015
Really? How exactly did they manipulate it when their marks hold no sway?

The judges have been doing this show long enough that they know the public will vote for their favourites no matter what they say. Kellie was the best tonight, fair play to her. This 'conspiracy!' nonsense is getting beyond tiresome now.
firefly_irl
19-12-2015
However means he'll yet again get another good partner next year and we'll have to endure him for weeks
Leicester_Hunk
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Really? How exactly did they manipulate it when their marks hold no sway?

The judges have been doing this show long enough that they know the public will vote for their favourites no matter what they say. Kellie was the best tonight, fair play to her. This 'conspiracy!' nonsense is getting beyond tiresome now.”

I didn't say it was a conspiracy and I know the judges votes don't count. But they thought they would try.

Kellie WAS the best on the night but people don't vote for the final night, regardless of whether they should or not. They vote for consistency and that belongs to Jay.
ladygardener
19-12-2015
I don't know why so many people don't like Kevin. I guess it's because he's a normal man from Grimsby, rather than some Russian hunk. He and Kellie were by far the best tonight, but once people start saying they don't like Kevin, or the Cliftons or spreading other rumours on the media, people will believe it.
londongirlGre
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Really? How exactly did they manipulate it when their marks hold no sway?

The judges have been doing this show long enough that they know the public will vote for their favourites no matter what they say. Kellie was the best tonight, fair play to her. This 'conspiracy!' nonsense is getting beyond tiresome now.”

I agree.

The winner of the show really isn't that important, IMO, for the judges to try and manipulate the votes. Tonight, Kellie was fantastic.
Sylvia
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Judges clearly has their "winners". So glad it backfired. The public are not stupid.”

Hear Hear!
ilovesooty
19-12-2015
I think the judges were fully aware that their marking wouldn't enhance Kellie and Kevin 's chances.
catkins198
19-12-2015
I was so angry when Len said she should be the winner and Craig was on about how hard she works. Other celebs work don't they? At least the public had the sense to ignore them
Hound of Love
19-12-2015
I like Kevin


But he must be due a duffer, rather than a potential finalist, next year
CaroUK
19-12-2015
Sorry judges - I didn't agree with you. K&K may have done the best show dance - but they were clearly out danced in both the other two dances. Gurning and screaming don't look or sound attractive (and whatever happened to tango faces??). The public clearly didn't like the partnership and they were never going to win, no matter what "guidance" marks were given.

Jay and Aliona have been wonderful all the way through the series and deserved the win
Arcana
19-12-2015
Who manipulates people into believing that it's always other people who are manipulated? 😒
MysteriousOz
19-12-2015
I think Kevin needs to just tone it down a bit, comes across annoying and too competitive

Kellie didn't help she actually made it worse
claire2281
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Kellie WAS the best on the night....”

And the judges therefore marked her fairly and gave the right comments. Yet you still think this was them 'manipulating' people and not just them giving their honest opinion? Hmm...weird...
komentaightor
19-12-2015
Look at the previous history of Strictly finals - getting a 40 is no way of guaranteeing you will hoist a tacky spherical trophy.

Georgia got her plaudit from Craig - maybe a way in to future work for her.

Jay announced he would be looking for work after the Striclty Tour, but doubt it would be in a stage musical. Not sure how the trophy will benefit him.

Kellie - will not be written out of EastEnders for decades (unless she wants to go) - in fact she may be involved in more big story lines, not having to get wear a wedding dress to get remembered

Katie and Anita (Team Factual) may get more presenting slots, especially if the dresses are glamorous
carl.waring
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“The public are not stupid.”

The public are, indeed, stupid. It's a dancing competition and only one couple scored two sets of full marks tonight and therefore should have won.

Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Sorry judges - I didn't agree with you. K&K may have done the best show dance - but they were clearly out danced in both the other two dances.”

Clearly? So explain why they got better marks than the other two couples then?
Polly-T
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“I was so angry when Len said she should be the winner and Craig was on about how hard she works. Other celebs work don't they? At least the public had the sense to ignore them”

Len made a big mistake saying Kellie should win - there have been rumors of a fix for the past few weeks and then Anita going out in the semi, Jo Clifton doing CC on ITT and the judges being biased with their comments. I agree Kellies show dance was the best but her tango was not a 40 (compare it to Jays tango a few weeks ago).

Jay was the star of SCD 2015 and partly responsible for its huge viewership figures.
He had to endure a lot to win - tabloid lies, nerves etc and never once did he seek sympathy or complain. He deserved to win big-time
Leicester_Hunk
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“And the judges therefore marked her fairly and gave the right comments. Yet you still think this was them 'manipulating' people and not just them giving their honest opinion? Hmm...weird...”

I knew that was you Claire xxx
SwanGirl
19-12-2015
I don't get the hate for Kevin, I really don't. He's an excellent dancer and produces quality routines which are eye catching and he knows the public, on the whole, will enjoy. Kellie was the best tonight and she couldn't have done anymore. I voted for Jay so I am not saying this as a bias Kellie/Kevin fan. The judges are all entitled to an opinion but in the end they all know it comes down to the public vote.
MaggieMcGee
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Judges clearly has their "winners". So glad it backfired. The public are not stupid.”

The public are stupid as politics shows. The judges, who are part of the public and stupid too, may have been singing Kellie's praises but Darcey said that Jay was her number one. Was he dancing with Kevin?
PinkDiamond
19-12-2015
I was uncomfortable with their marking tonight and I though K&K Charleston in particular was very overmarked. I'm a Jay fan but if I am being honest I think Georgia was better tonight.
Last edited by PinkDiamond : 19-12-2015 at 22:57
carl.waring
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Len made a big mistake saying Kellie should win - there have been rumors of a fix for the past few weeks ...”

As there are every year. It's just such a ridiculous concept that simply could not work in reality.
madetomeasure
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by ladygardener:
“I don't know why so many people don't like Kevin. I guess it's because he's a normal man from Grimsby, rather than some Russian hunk. He and Kellie were by far the best tonight, but once people start saying they don't like Kevin, or the Cliftons or spreading other rumours on the media, people will believe it.”

No, its because he loves himself and i dont care where he is from. The boy has no humility and gets far too much coverage
bendymixer
19-12-2015
as it was up to the public tonight the judges cannot manipulate anything there have been other couples who have scored well on the night and not won - the public will have the winner they choose. Jay deserved his win on the season of performances but on the night and as a judge for over 35 years I would have marked it as the judges did tonight based purely on tonight
duckylucky
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Look at the previous history of Strictly finals - getting a 40 is no way of guaranteeing you will hoist a tacky spherical trophy.

Georgia got her plaudit from Craig - maybe a way in to future work for her.

Jay announced he would be looking for work after the Striclty Tour, but doubt it would be in a stage musical. Not sure how the trophy will benefit him.

Kellie - will not be written out of EastEnders for decades (unless she wants to go) - in fact she may be involved in more big story lines, not having to get wear a wedding dress to get remembered

Katie and Anita (Team Factual) may get more presenting slots, especially if the dresses are glamorous”

I think of them all Georgia will benefit most from Strictly .I have a feeling she will aim towards musical theater and will find it a lot easier after tonight to get there
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