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Old 19-12-2015, 22:59
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No, its because he loves himself and i dont care where he is from. The boy has no humility and gets far too much coverage
What a ridiculous thing to say. I do not perceive Kevin in that way so evidence your perception before stating it as fact.
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Old 19-12-2015, 22:59
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Judges clearly has their "winners". So glad it backfired. The public are not stupid.
Well, clearly some are...
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Old 19-12-2015, 22:59
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Judges clearly has their "winners". So glad it backfired. The public are not stupid.
Are you really trying to say that they were worse than Jay in the first part of the final?? Did the judges make them do that rubbish showdance?

If they wanted Jay to loose they wouldn't of had been so harsh on him in part 1. The judges know damn well that the public like to vote against the judges.
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Old 19-12-2015, 22:59
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Jay was the star of SCD 2015 and partly responsible for its huge viewership figures.
It got similarly huge ratings last year without him - that's the beauty of SCD; who is on it rarely makes a blind bit of difference to how popular it is. It's an enduring format that's popular in its own right and would've achieved those ratings regardless.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:02
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I think of them all Georgia will benefit most from Strictly .I have a feeling she will aim towards musical theater and will find it a lot easier after tonight to get there
Indeed Jay has no personality. So won't get west end or music offers. Aliona will run back to her sugar daddy
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:02
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No, its because he loves himself and i dont care where he is from. The boy has no humility and gets far too much coverage

So how long have you known him then?? surely you need to know him to make that opinion??
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:04
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as it was up to the public tonight the judges cannot manipulate anything there have been other couples who have scored well on the night and not won - the public will have the winner they choose. Jay deserved his win on the season of performances but on the night and as a judge for over 35 years I would have marked it as the judges did tonight based purely on tonight
Well said
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:05
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Questions have to be asked about 40 being awarded to a Tango danced in ballroom hold. I think more than one person smelt a rat at that point if not before.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:10
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Questions have to be asked about 40 being awarded to a Tango danced in ballroom hold. I think more than one person smelt a rat at that point if not before.
Oh goody another "fix" post. Bored now.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:10
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Questions have to be asked about 40 being awarded to a Tango danced in ballroom hold. I think more than one person smelt a rat at that point if not before.
Does not compute. The ballroom tango is in hold?????
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:11
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I don't get the hate for Kevin, I really don't. He's an excellent dancer and produces quality routines which are eye catching and he knows the public, on the whole, will enjoy. Kellie was the best tonight and she couldn't have done anymore. I voted for Jay so I am not saying this as a bias Kellie/Kevin fan. The judges are all entitled to an opinion but in the end they all know it comes down to the public vote.
Who hates him? Who has said that about him? I haven't and I don't think anyone else has either at least not on this thread. He's a brilliant choreographer. But I think they thought he was owed a win.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:12
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Questions have to be asked about 40 being awarded to a Tango danced in ballroom hold. I think more than one person smelt a rat at that point if not before.
What?
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:13
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Who hates him? Who has said that about him? I haven't and I don't think anyone else has either at least not on this thread. He's a brilliant choreographer. But I think they thought he was owed a win.
made to measure's post implies he dislikes him intensely for starters and most of the NAT contributees. It's not hard to find Kevi negativity on DS.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:14
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The public are, indeed, stupid. It's a dancing competition and only one couple scored two sets of full marks tonight and therefore should have won.


Clearly? So explain why they got better marks than the other two couples then?
Can you CLEARLY explain to us what part of the judges' marks not counting that you dont get. Are you a sheep?
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:17
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I didn't say it was a conspiracy and I know the judges votes don't count. But they thought they would try.

Kellie WAS the best on the night but people don't vote for the final night, regardless of whether they should or not. They vote for consistency and that belongs to Jay.
Hang on Leicester_Hunk, if you agree that Kellie "WAS" the best 'on the night' then what was manipulative about the judges giving her the best marks on the night ?
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:22
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I didn't say it was a conspiracy and I know the judges votes don't count. But they thought they would try.

Kellie WAS the best on the night but people don't vote for the final night, regardless of whether they should or not. They vote for consistency and that belongs to Jay.
i don't think they do vote for consistency, but Kellie was just as consistent as Jay.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:22
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Does not compute. The ballroom tango is in hold?????
The ballroom Tango hold is different to the Ballroom Waltz/Foxtrot/QS hold. Their hold was nearer the latter.

Normally in BTango the womans thumb is tucked into the mans armpit and the mans hand is slightly further round the womans back.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:22
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The judges have been doing this long enough to know that their opinion is not going to sway the public, in fact it can often have the opposite effect i.e "OMG he criticised my favourite, how dare s/he!" *picks up phone stomps feet* "I'll show them!" type thing.

I don't get why people think the judges giving their option is bias, it's ridiculous.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:23
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Questions have to be asked about 40 being awarded to a Tango danced in ballroom hold. I think more than one person smelt a rat at that point if not before.

nothing wrong with hold first pic from tango and world champs second kellie what was wrong with kellies ?? or is my training wrong ???


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Old 19-12-2015, 23:24
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Oh goody another "fix" post. Bored now.
Certainly overmarked considering they made a very obvious mistake.

Does not compute. The ballroom tango is in hold?????
The ballroom Tango hold is different to the Ballroom Waltz/Foxtrot/QS hold. Their hold was nearer the latter.

Normally in BTango the womans thumb is tucked into the mans armpit and the mans hand is slightly further round the womans back.
Thanks Monaogg - was just about to come back to say that! Plus Kellie was more vase-shaped in hold rather than upright.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:25
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The public are, indeed, stupid. It's a dancing competition and only one couple scored two sets of full marks tonight and therefore should have won.
No it isn't and I really wish I had a quid for every time this argument is brought up.

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Old 19-12-2015, 23:25
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The ballroom Tango hold is different to the Ballroom Waltz/Foxtrot/QS hold. Their hold was nearer the latter.

Normally in BTango the womans thumb is tucked into the mans armpit and the mans hand is slightly further round the womans back.
i don't understands how your answer relates to the other poster's comment about being in hold. Thumb or not they are in hold right? So did the original poster object to the thumb position when they wrote ballroom hold?
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:26
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I don't get the hate for Kevin, I really don't. He's an excellent dancer and produces quality routines which are eye catching and he knows the public, on the whole, will enjoy. Kellie was the best tonight and she couldn't have done anymore. I voted for Jay so I am not saying this as a bias Kellie/Kevin fan. The judges are all entitled to an opinion but in the end they all know it comes down to the public vote.
He is more suited for Butlin stage.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:27
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Certainly overmarked considering they made a very obvious mistake.







Thanks Monaogg - was just about to come back to say that! Plus Kellie was more vase-shaped in hold rather than upright.
A ballroom hold is not upright. I feel like I'm in George Orwell's 1984. What you and Monaogg write makes little sense but I shall seek my sense from those who dance the tango. Goodnight.
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Old 19-12-2015, 23:28
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As the judges marks don't count - why bother with the leaderboard in the final?

By this stage of the competition, I think most viewers can predict what the judges will say to any of the couples, and I for one didn't appreciate the hatchet job they gave poor Katie this evening (and indeed all the way through the series).

All of the first round dances were pretty much of a muchness - and none of them deserved 40 - especially the tango (Jay was frequently criticised for lack of facial expression - but K&K had waaaaay too much facial expression for a tango). Showdances were all a bit Meh! And as far as the battle of the Charlestons was concerned - G&G won that hands down, but Jays paso was fabulous!

I don't hate Kevin, but I don't particularly like him - he's too cheesy and OTT for my taste, and I'm tired of the "from Grimsby" nonsense. I think that he over dances everything and he can overshadow his celeb at times - and not only to mask their faults!
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