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Shameful judges manipulation to get Mr Clifton the glitter ball |
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Sorry judges - I didn't agree with you. K&K may have done the best show dance - but they were clearly out danced in both the other two dances. Gurning and screaming don't look or sound attractive (and whatever happened to tango faces??). The public clearly didn't like the partnership and they were never going to win, no matter what "guidance" marks were given.
Jay and Aliona have been wonderful all the way through the series and deserved the win |
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Can I just say and excuse my language etc, but jesus h christ! What the hell has everyone else done for this kind of treatment? I thought I was okay with anyone winning before tonight, but I am actually quite upset. The whole show seems topsy turvy at the moment or is that just me?
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Can I just say and excuse my language etc, but jesus h christ! What the hell has everyone else done for this kind of treatment? I thought I was okay with anyone winning before tonight, but I am actually quite upset. The whole show seems topsy turvy at the moment or is that just me?
Last year, and I don't mean this in a bad way, I don't think people got behind any of the couples to such an extent. This year they did - and in turn maybe the dislike of certain couples are also turned up a notch, either because they're a threat to the favourites or people dislike the support the favourite is getting. |
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I think it's like this after every final! Especially a final where the winner has been either slightly off or not the recognised strongest dancer (the forum during the final couple of weeks of series 6, with the mess of the Semi Final Dance Off and Tom winning, was seething, for example).
Last year, and I don't mean this in a bad way, I don't think people got behind any of the couples to such an extent. This year they did - and in turn maybe the dislike of certain couples are also turned up a notch, either because they're a threat to the favourites or people dislike the support the favourite is getting.
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Fudd, can you tell me what has happened to basdfg? He has posted tonight in a negative way that I wouldn't have believed a few years ago. What happened to him? As a fellow Eurovision forum member, can you tell me what it is?
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Can I just say and excuse my language etc, but jesus h christ! What the hell has everyone else done for this kind of treatment? I thought I was okay with anyone winning before tonight, but I am actually quite upset. The whole show seems topsy turvy at the moment or is that just me?
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Fudd, can you tell me what has happened to basdfg? He has posted tonight in a negative way that I wouldn't have believed a few years ago. What happened to him? As a fellow Eurovision forum member, can you tell me what it is?
I think one issue with Strictly this year has been The X Factor's dramatic decline. It used to deflect all the fix allegations in it's pomp and the press were happy to let Strictly trundle on. Now people aren't interested in The X Factor the press have to turn their fire... and Strictly is the obvious option. If you start to really see a 'conspiracy' it's hard to let it go and things become magnified; especially if the press continue to dig. I wonder if that's happened to basdfg? He's spotted one and every little thing has been subsequently magnified, resulting in the posts he's made. I have to admit I was very surprised! |
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cowardly judges couldn't even bring themselves to be seen on camera after the result. Dump Len for next year and stop this ridiculous Machiavellian marking and commenting.
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People talk about this now like it's a new thing. Where have you all been the past how many years? The judges have done it year after year where they have tried to engineer their chosen 1. I remember it going back as far as Zoe Ball's year.
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I have absolutely no idea.
I think one issue with Strictly this year has been The X Factor's dramatic decline. It used to deflect all the fix allegations in it's pomp and the press were happy to let Strictly trundle on. Now people aren't interested in The X Factor the press have to turn their fire... and Strictly is the obvious option. If you start to really see a 'conspiracy' it's hard to let it go and things become magnified; especially if the press continue to dig. I wonder if that's happened to basdfg? He's spotted one and every little thing has been subsequently magnified, resulting in the posts he's made. I have to admit I was very surprised! |
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Because it depends on whether you should judge on the night or the competition overall. I think the latter. But that's just me. Just think they would have liked our man in Grimsby to win it.
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Yeah... that's must be it we don't "get" him .
![]() I just think that a lot of people don't see that he's sending himself up. |
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People talk about this now like it's a new thing. Where have you all been the past how many years? The judges have done it year after year where they have tried to engineer their chosen 1. I remember it going back as far as Zoe Ball's year.
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I have absolutely no idea.
I think one issue with Strictly this year has been The X Factor's dramatic decline. It used to deflect all the fix allegations in it's pomp and the press were happy to let Strictly trundle on. Now people aren't interested in The X Factor the press have to turn their fire... and Strictly is the obvious option. If you start to really see a 'conspiracy' it's hard to let it go and things become magnified; especially if the press continue to dig. I wonder if that's happened to basdfg? He's spotted one and every little thing has been subsequently magnified, resulting in the posts he's made. I have to admit I was very surprised! In any case, I can't see any purpose in 'fixing' the Strictly result. Who would gain from the 'fix' ? All the contestants are 'BBC Employees' in that they're all being paid five-figure sums to take part in the show. |
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They are judges. They're not engineering anything - if they 'judge' someone to be better than another or to put it another way - if they have a favourite then they are going to say so. Judging is what they are paid to do - it's tough if their opinion isn't the same as you but they are there to 'judge'. They aren't there to be impartial like the presenters.
Dare I remind you of dance off gate? |
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They're there to judge based on what is in front of them yet at times they've clearly not watched the same dances as many of us viewers have with their over marking and inconsistent judging. This leads me and others to the opinion that they are engineering the leader board based on who they think is over all best and not who is best on the day.
Dare I remind you of dance off gate? A crowd pleasing dance isn't necessarily a judge pleasing dance. All four judges have areas of expertise and they judge accordingly. If the have a 'favourite' - it's because they judge them to be the best. I like SCD because we as the 'novices' also have a say. |
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They are professionals - do you think you know more about 'dance' than they do? They have spent all their working lives around 'dancing' - they have judged countless competitions.
A crowd pleasing dance isn't necessarily a judge pleasing dance. All four judges have areas of expertise and they judge accordingly. If the have a 'favourite' - it's because they judge them to be the best. I like SCD because we as the 'novices' also have a say. |
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I don't need to know more than them when I see a clumsy lift or a blatant error in timing or synchronisation that is ignored thank you.
Perhaps you should send your CV in - I hear this is Lens final year. |
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OK.
Perhaps you should send your CV in - I hear this is Lens final year. .
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I must be the only one who didnt like K&K showdance
I thought it was ugly, a stompy version of the Charleston far too heavy footed I see Lindy Hops nearly every weekend and they are far better than what K&K did |
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Why is there a thread complaining about 'manipulation' or bias that had zero influence?
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I don't know why so many people don't like Kevin. I guess it's because he's a normal man from Grimsby, rather than some Russian hunk.
I do like Joanne though. I also don't like Gleb. The only hunk on the show is the normal man from Sevenoaks, Kent. As far as I'm concerned... |
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Yes you are probably right, it just doesn't sit well with me
![]() What's not sitting right about it? What's your favourite or best isn't the same as someone else's, dance is subjective, based on emotions and what connects a routine performed on stage to the viewer watching it. Quote:
cowardly judges couldn't even bring themselves to be seen on camera after the result. Dump Len for next year and stop this ridiculous Machiavellian marking and commenting.
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They are professionals - do you think you know more about 'dance' than they do? They have spent all their working lives around 'dancing' - they have judged countless competitions.
A crowd pleasing dance isn't necessarily a judge pleasing dance. All four judges have areas of expertise and they judge accordingly. If the have a 'favourite' - it's because they judge them to be the best. I like SCD because we as the 'novices' also have a say. Quote:
I must be the only one who didnt like K&K showdance
I thought it was ugly, a stompy version of the Charleston far too heavy footed I see Lindy Hops nearly every weekend and they are far better than what K&K did |
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Questions have to be asked about 40 being awarded to a Tango danced in ballroom hold. I think more than one person smelt a rat at that point if not before.
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Certainly overmarked considering they made a very obvious mistake.
Thanks Monaogg - was just about to come back to say that! Plus Kellie was more vase-shaped in hold rather than upright. |
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