Anya D, did you see the article about Gleb's wife replacing Ola?
Okay so who is not coming back next year?
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Originally Posted by sunnymeg:
“I think Len wil retire and be replaced by Brendan. Brendan has judged in the Australian version and is IMO a safer pair of hands than Anton.
I think we have seen all Gleb has to offer, not sure he will be back.
Ola is out as will be Kristina if she does celebrity big brother.”
“I think Len wil retire and be replaced by Brendan. Brendan has judged in the Australian version and is IMO a safer pair of hands than Anton.
I think we have seen all Gleb has to offer, not sure he will be back.
Ola is out as will be Kristina if she does celebrity big brother.”
Actually Brendan could make a good judge - the only problem could be that his relationship with the other pros but good or bad might affect his judgement of them and their celebs.
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“I'm amazed at the Aliona will quit posters. Why would she, just because she's won it again? If she wants to start a family now, it would be a good time but she's still quite young and may want to dance for a few years yet.”
“I'm amazed at the Aliona will quit posters. Why would she, just because she's won it again? If she wants to start a family now, it would be a good time but she's still quite young and may want to dance for a few years yet.”
She may have got a bit sick of the rumours in some tabloids about her and Jay or she may wish to go out on a high. However there are plenty of reasons why she might not want to quit.
Originally Posted by sunnymeg:
“I think Len wil retire and be replaced by Brendan. Brendan has judged in the Australian version and is IMO a safer pair of hands than Anton.”
“I think Len wil retire and be replaced by Brendan. Brendan has judged in the Australian version and is IMO a safer pair of hands than Anton.”
Ohhhh how I would love this to happen, if merely to see the reaction of a certain poster on this forum (who has been banging on about Anton being the replacement for Bruce and digging at Brendan at every opportunity)
Originally Posted by Dragrace:
“Anya D, did you see the article about Gleb's wife replacing Ola?”
“Anya D, did you see the article about Gleb's wife replacing Ola?”
I thought she was a skater, not a dancer?
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“I thought she was a skater, not a dancer?”
“I thought she was a skater, not a dancer?”
Gleb's celeb partner on the Russian DWTS was a skater. His wife is a ballroom dancer who has been paired with celebs on the Aussie and Indian versions of DWTS and she judged the most recent Russian one (where Gleb came in 2nd place with his skater.)
Originally Posted by square-root:
“Len's been noticeably grumpy since he gave up judging DWTS. He probably misses a far better, far more watchable, and far more professionally run operation.”
“Len's been noticeably grumpy since he gave up judging DWTS. He probably misses a far better, far more watchable, and far more professionally run operation.”
If that's your opinion, why watch Strictly at all?
Personally I cannot stand any of these type of shows done by the Americans. Over the top, cringey, schmaltz fests
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“Gleb's celeb partner on the Russian DWTS was a skater. His wife is a ballroom dancer who has been paired with celebs on the Aussie and Indian versions of DWTS and she judged the most recent Russian one (where Gleb came in 2nd place with his skater.)”
“Gleb's celeb partner on the Russian DWTS was a skater. His wife is a ballroom dancer who has been paired with celebs on the Aussie and Indian versions of DWTS and she judged the most recent Russian one (where Gleb came in 2nd place with his skater.)”
Aha, thanks for that
I actually like the idea of Brendan replacing grumpy Len on the judging panel - don't want to see Anton as a judge or presenter. Maybe he could have a small segment on the results show - like his own version of Len's Lens, but not as a judge - how on earth could he critique on Latin when his own is so poor???
I just hope that Gio returns and Aliona - she can go for a treble of titles why not.
I just hope that Gio returns and Aliona - she can go for a treble of titles why not.
Originally Posted by Dragrace:
“Anya D, did you see the article about Gleb's wife replacing Ola?”
“Anya D, did you see the article about Gleb's wife replacing Ola?”
It was in the Mirror:
"Strictly Come Dancing bosses have glam blonde lined up to replace Ola Jordan...
Executives have their eye on Russian dance champion Elena Samodanova, 31, who has already been a success on the American show..."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...s-glam-7043006
BTW, Elena hasn't been on the American show unless it was behind the scenes
Edited: Sorry! I thought you were asking where the article was
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“I actually like the idea of Brendan replacing grumpy Len on the judging panel - don't want to see Anton as a judge or presenter. Maybe he could have a small segment on the results show - like his own version of Len's Lens, but not as a judge - how on earth could he critique on Latin when his own is so poor???
I just hope that Gio returns and Aliona - she can go for a treble of titles why not.”
“I actually like the idea of Brendan replacing grumpy Len on the judging panel - don't want to see Anton as a judge or presenter. Maybe he could have a small segment on the results show - like his own version of Len's Lens, but not as a judge - how on earth could he critique on Latin when his own is so poor???
I just hope that Gio returns and Aliona - she can go for a treble of titles why not.”
Though at least he's had a go at Latin which is more than can be said for Bruno, Craig and Darcey!
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Though at least he's had a go at Latin which is more than can be said for Bruno, Craig and Darcey!”
“Though at least he's had a go at Latin which is more than can be said for Bruno, Craig and Darcey!”
Like most professional ballroom dancers, Anton will have had to learn all the Latin dances as he trained - he obviously decided early on to specialise in Ballroom, whilst others prefer Latin. He clearly doesn't practice his Latin when not on Strictly, but then he makes a living from his Ballroom tours with Erin.....
As such, Anton will know the required techniques and steps for each Latin dance - even if he isn't brilliant at performing them himself, and he certainly knows more about ballroom AND Latin dancing, than the gruesome threesome, as well as having competed both as an amateur and a professional
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“hopefully Darcy, Len & Bruno won't be back next year ...
about time there was a shake up with the Judges Panel, they're passed their used by date
”
“hopefully Darcy, Len & Bruno won't be back next year ...
about time there was a shake up with the Judges Panel, they're passed their used by date
”
I agree with this and I would like Craig to go too. They have spoilt my enjoyment this year and at times it was nasty and hard to watch.
Originally Posted by Franch Fancy:
“I agree with this and I would like Craig to go too. They have spoilt my enjoyment this year and at times it was nasty and hard to watch.”
“I agree with this and I would like Craig to go too. They have spoilt my enjoyment this year and at times it was nasty and hard to watch.”
Even when I disagreed with the judges, I don't think they've ever been nasty as such. People need to watch the X Factor and then they will be thankful for the Strictly judges.
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“It was in the Mirror:
"Strictly Come Dancing bosses have glam blonde lined up to replace Ola Jordan...
Executives have their eye on Russian dance champion Elena Samodanova, 31, who has already been a success on the American show..."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...s-glam-7043006
BTW, Elena hasn't been on the American show unless it was behind the scenes
Edited: Sorry! I thought you were asking where the article was”
“It was in the Mirror:
"Strictly Come Dancing bosses have glam blonde lined up to replace Ola Jordan...
Executives have their eye on Russian dance champion Elena Samodanova, 31, who has already been a success on the American show..."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...s-glam-7043006
BTW, Elena hasn't been on the American show unless it was behind the scenes
Edited: Sorry! I thought you were asking where the article was
”
Did you think it sounded like there was any truth in it?
I'm another who thinks that all of the judges should go too.
Len is just too grumpy - and this year he doesn't even have the excuse that he's doing a lot of travelling for DWTS. He deserves a round of applause for being the only member of the "establishment" who was prepared to take a chance on doing the show all those years ago, but like Bruce before him - he's past his sell by date now. That said - if he goes he needs to be replaced by someone else who is a qualified ballroom dancer if not a qualified judge - and that replacement needs to be the Head Judge.
Bruno has grown with the show, and of the three non ballroom dancers on the panel, he seems to have learnt a lot from doing DWTS and Strictly, but he's started to be downright nasty to some contestants, and his flamboyance is getting silly
Craig has just got sillier and nastier as the years go on. He "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about, but if you ask an expert about what he says, a lot of it is just nonsense. His delight in being Mr Nasty, and refusing to give 10s for the smallest and nitpicking the faults (like who actually CARES if someone's thumb sticking up is the only error? If the footwork, technique and performance was good - a single sticking up thumb shouldn't prevent a 10 being awarded. Constructive and appropriate criticism delivered in a kind way gets better results - a demolition job, particular when the criticism was wrong is never cool! He should NEVER be head judge.
Darcey? Well, what about her? She just parrots what "the boys" say most of the time - and whilst she may have been a prima ballerina assoluta, that doesn't qualify her to judge on this show.
Basically, as I said on another thread, we need a split panel - two qualified Ballroom specialists judging on technique, and two others judging on performance, and while the specialists can comment on performance, the performance judges should not attempt to mark the technical side.
Len is just too grumpy - and this year he doesn't even have the excuse that he's doing a lot of travelling for DWTS. He deserves a round of applause for being the only member of the "establishment" who was prepared to take a chance on doing the show all those years ago, but like Bruce before him - he's past his sell by date now. That said - if he goes he needs to be replaced by someone else who is a qualified ballroom dancer if not a qualified judge - and that replacement needs to be the Head Judge.
Bruno has grown with the show, and of the three non ballroom dancers on the panel, he seems to have learnt a lot from doing DWTS and Strictly, but he's started to be downright nasty to some contestants, and his flamboyance is getting silly
Craig has just got sillier and nastier as the years go on. He "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about, but if you ask an expert about what he says, a lot of it is just nonsense. His delight in being Mr Nasty, and refusing to give 10s for the smallest and nitpicking the faults (like who actually CARES if someone's thumb sticking up is the only error? If the footwork, technique and performance was good - a single sticking up thumb shouldn't prevent a 10 being awarded. Constructive and appropriate criticism delivered in a kind way gets better results - a demolition job, particular when the criticism was wrong is never cool! He should NEVER be head judge.
Darcey? Well, what about her? She just parrots what "the boys" say most of the time - and whilst she may have been a prima ballerina assoluta, that doesn't qualify her to judge on this show.
Basically, as I said on another thread, we need a split panel - two qualified Ballroom specialists judging on technique, and two others judging on performance, and while the specialists can comment on performance, the performance judges should not attempt to mark the technical side.
Originally Posted by Dragrace:
“Did you think it sounded like there was any truth in it?”
“Did you think it sounded like there was any truth in it?”
I don't know - is there usually a grain of truth in these things? "The executives have their eye on her..." I just don't know. With Trent's wife Gordana, they used her as a backing dancer - but I haven't seen any hint of Elena having anything to do with the show (although I bet she helped Gleb with the choreography, as with most dancer couples on these shows.)
Since they seem especially smitten with his Hough-like spectacle dances, and if I'm right and she's heavily involved... well, I guess I could see the show thinking they're a good team - and that Gleb might need her around to achieve the same sort of thing he's been doing - and she might be able to do something similar as a pro on the show herself
There's also been chatter about Neil Jones coming onboard, and he's worked with Strictly all series, along with his wife Katya - maybe two couples could join next year but it would involve some clearing of the deck. It'll be very interesting to hear who's in the pro cast list come June (or April like in 2015).
As long as Tristan is back i'm not fussed if they axe the rest and get all new dancers.
I do love Aliona though but reckon she may leave now (and run off with Jay!).
Would especially like to see the back of Kevin, Brendan, Anton, Janette and Karen.
Bring back Trent.
I do love Aliona though but reckon she may leave now (and run off with Jay!).
Would especially like to see the back of Kevin, Brendan, Anton, Janette and Karen.
Bring back Trent.
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“I'm another who thinks that all of the judges should go too.
Len is just too grumpy - and this year he doesn't even have the excuse that he's doing a lot of travelling for DWTS. He deserves a round of applause for being the only member of the "establishment" who was prepared to take a chance on doing the show all those years ago, but like Bruce before him - he's past his sell by date now. That said - if he goes he needs to be replaced by someone else who is a qualified ballroom dancer if not a qualified judge - and that replacement needs to be the Head Judge.
Bruno has grown with the show, and of the three non ballroom dancers on the panel, he seems to have learnt a lot from doing DWTS and Strictly, but he's started to be downright nasty to some contestants, and his flamboyance is getting silly
Craig has just got sillier and nastier as the years go on. He "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about, but if you ask an expert about what he says, a lot of it is just nonsense. His delight in being Mr Nasty, and refusing to give 10s for the smallest and nitpicking the faults (like who actually CARES if someone's thumb sticking up is the only error? If the footwork, technique and performance was good - a single sticking up thumb shouldn't prevent a 10 being awarded. Constructive and appropriate criticism delivered in a kind way gets better results - a demolition job, particular when the criticism was wrong is never cool! He should NEVER be head judge.
Darcey? Well, what about her? She just parrots what "the boys" say most of the time - and whilst she may have been a prima ballerina assoluta, that doesn't qualify her to judge on this show.
Basically, as I said on another thread, we need a split panel - two qualified Ballroom specialists judging on technique, and two others judging on performance, and while the specialists can comment on performance, the performance judges should not attempt to mark the technical side.”
“I'm another who thinks that all of the judges should go too.
Len is just too grumpy - and this year he doesn't even have the excuse that he's doing a lot of travelling for DWTS. He deserves a round of applause for being the only member of the "establishment" who was prepared to take a chance on doing the show all those years ago, but like Bruce before him - he's past his sell by date now. That said - if he goes he needs to be replaced by someone else who is a qualified ballroom dancer if not a qualified judge - and that replacement needs to be the Head Judge.
Bruno has grown with the show, and of the three non ballroom dancers on the panel, he seems to have learnt a lot from doing DWTS and Strictly, but he's started to be downright nasty to some contestants, and his flamboyance is getting silly
Craig has just got sillier and nastier as the years go on. He "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about, but if you ask an expert about what he says, a lot of it is just nonsense. His delight in being Mr Nasty, and refusing to give 10s for the smallest and nitpicking the faults (like who actually CARES if someone's thumb sticking up is the only error? If the footwork, technique and performance was good - a single sticking up thumb shouldn't prevent a 10 being awarded. Constructive and appropriate criticism delivered in a kind way gets better results - a demolition job, particular when the criticism was wrong is never cool! He should NEVER be head judge.
Darcey? Well, what about her? She just parrots what "the boys" say most of the time - and whilst she may have been a prima ballerina assoluta, that doesn't qualify her to judge on this show.
Basically, as I said on another thread, we need a split panel - two qualified Ballroom specialists judging on technique, and two others judging on performance, and while the specialists can comment on performance, the performance judges should not attempt to mark the technical side.”
I agree that the judging panel needs a major shake-up and it may get one if Len decides to retire. As with Bruce the beeb may want to allow him to go when he's ready before instigating changes. I find myself surprised to write that I would keep Darcey but relinquish the others. I go up and down with her because she knows about dance in more forms that ballet and can offer good tips as well as pleasure/critique of the celebs. I would like two ex-ballroom/10 dance specialists on the panel. I'll miss Len and Bruno but I will feel no sorrow if Craig shuffles off.
For me:
Kristina, Natalie, any 2 of the Cliftons (not fussed on any of them), and Anton & Brendan's time must be up by now...
If Aliona stays she'll get a duffer next year (and the year after) so maybe she'll decide it's time to depart. I don't want her to go though.
Willing Tristan to give a bit more of a damn as i think he's entertaining. Would like Iveta back as she was fun. Hope the new pros return, but Gleb should get a real duffer to make him appreciate what a great partner he had in Anita.
Len to go too, especially if he's back doing DWTS next year.
Having said all this, i think everyone i've said should go will be back next year
Kristina, Natalie, any 2 of the Cliftons (not fussed on any of them), and Anton & Brendan's time must be up by now...
If Aliona stays she'll get a duffer next year (and the year after) so maybe she'll decide it's time to depart. I don't want her to go though.
Willing Tristan to give a bit more of a damn as i think he's entertaining. Would like Iveta back as she was fun. Hope the new pros return, but Gleb should get a real duffer to make him appreciate what a great partner he had in Anita.
Len to go too, especially if he's back doing DWTS next year.
Having said all this, i think everyone i've said should go will be back next year
The judging system, is a bit of a nonsense.
To be fair the score should be split between "contents of programme and manner of presentation."
Then a small mistake in a complex programme wouldn't necessary be the "disaster" it is compared with a well executed "safer routine."
Jay and Aliona's showdance would have scored far higher, if that system were in place.
But you'd need four judges who all had the technical knowledge as well as ballroom experience.
But it's never going to happen, the show works well enough to attract the ratings as it is with the less than professional team we have presently, whose first priority seems to trying to grab as much attention for themselves as possible.
To be fair the score should be split between "contents of programme and manner of presentation."
Then a small mistake in a complex programme wouldn't necessary be the "disaster" it is compared with a well executed "safer routine."
Jay and Aliona's showdance would have scored far higher, if that system were in place.
But you'd need four judges who all had the technical knowledge as well as ballroom experience.
But it's never going to happen, the show works well enough to attract the ratings as it is with the less than professional team we have presently, whose first priority seems to trying to grab as much attention for themselves as possible.
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“As long as Tristan is back i'm not fussed if they axe the rest and get all new dancers.
I do love Aliona though but reckon she may leave now (and run off with Jay!).
Would especially like to see the back of Kevin, Brendan, Anton, Janette and Karen.
Bring back Trent.”
“As long as Tristan is back i'm not fussed if they axe the rest and get all new dancers.
I do love Aliona though but reckon she may leave now (and run off with Jay!).
Would especially like to see the back of Kevin, Brendan, Anton, Janette and Karen.
Bring back Trent.”
You and I think just alike
I'd probably add Kristina to your list - she seems unhappy these days. But I don't think it'll happen - Kevin/Karen and Aljaz/Janette appear to be at the top of the food chain - with a strong challenge by Gleb to crash the party and ramp up the spectacle style of "dance" that took over DWTS-USA. Thanks a lot Mr Underwear Model.
I wish they would stop scoring the dances and simply rank the couples from 1st to whatever.
Eg first couple dances and gets comments
Second couple dancers get comments and judges decide whether they are above or below the first couple and so on - or watch and comment on all the dancers, then in a musical interlude rank the couples.
That way there would be no ties, and no accusations of under/ over marking. Sometimes the leaderboard is actually ranked correctly, but viewers get hung up on the marks given - when in fact it makes no difference if the top couple is 1 or 10 points above the second placed one the second placed will get one point less on the leaderboard..... And with ties being eliminated it means that lower ranked couples are more likely to go as the bottom ranked couple will only end up with 1 point.
Eg first couple dances and gets comments
Second couple dancers get comments and judges decide whether they are above or below the first couple and so on - or watch and comment on all the dancers, then in a musical interlude rank the couples.
That way there would be no ties, and no accusations of under/ over marking. Sometimes the leaderboard is actually ranked correctly, but viewers get hung up on the marks given - when in fact it makes no difference if the top couple is 1 or 10 points above the second placed one the second placed will get one point less on the leaderboard..... And with ties being eliminated it means that lower ranked couples are more likely to go as the bottom ranked couple will only end up with 1 point.
Originally Posted by Bitterpea:
“For me:
Kristina, Natalie, any 2 of the Cliftons (not fussed on any of them), and Anton & Brendan's time must be up by now...
If Aliona stays she'll get a duffer next year (and the year after) so maybe she'll decide it's time to depart. I don't want her to go though.
Willing Tristan to give a bit more of a damn as i think he's entertaining. Would like Iveta back as she was fun. Hope the new pros return, but Gleb should get a real duffer to make him appreciate what a great partner he had in Anita.
Len to go too, especially if he's back doing DWTS next year.
Having said all this, i think everyone i've said should go will be back next year”
“For me:
Kristina, Natalie, any 2 of the Cliftons (not fussed on any of them), and Anton & Brendan's time must be up by now...
If Aliona stays she'll get a duffer next year (and the year after) so maybe she'll decide it's time to depart. I don't want her to go though.
Willing Tristan to give a bit more of a damn as i think he's entertaining. Would like Iveta back as she was fun. Hope the new pros return, but Gleb should get a real duffer to make him appreciate what a great partner he had in Anita.
Len to go too, especially if he's back doing DWTS next year.
Having said all this, i think everyone i've said should go will be back next year
”
Len for sure.
What about Pasha? Ive noticed he's not on the tour this year. Does that mean he wont come back? He seems so nice as well.
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