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Craig comment to Georgia
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Cadiva
20-12-2015
Don't watch Corrie, don't watch EE but have obviously watched SCD and Georgia has grown from a fairly typical celebrity type - i.e. the pretty young one from a soap of some kind who start off fairly nondescript - into a beautiful performer able to demonstrate emotional range in her routines.

Whether that in turn equates to being able to pull off a 7 performances a week West End role is open to debate but I'd certainly be quite happy to pay to watch her perform in roles which suited her.
robbleona
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“There is a world of difference between emoting a dance performance and acting, her previous acting thus far has been awful. As I have said she has no presence when in front of the camera and just comes across badly. What we have seen on strictly is Georgia the person...she comes across lovely but it is different to having to act a part which is not her.”

on red button after the show when this 'theatre offer' from craig was mentioned, georgia said that was another 'box ticked', as if that was the main reason for being there....had she done that few weeks ago she may well have gone the same way as helen. Don't be fooled by the tears, she is one ambitious lady.
PAUL HUDSON
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by SepangBlue:
“For many of us who watched the finals on Saturday the result certainly was a shock, as both Georgia and Kellie clearly outdanced Jay on the night.

Either of the girls would have been a worthy winner, but in my view the actual result was somewhat of an anti-climax. I actually switched over as soon as the result was announced in a vain attempt to find something to raise my spirits before bedtime!”

So did I, I though GG won it by a mile
MACTOWIN
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by robbleona:
“on red button after the show when this 'theatre offer' from craig was mentioned, georgia said that was another 'box ticked', as if that was the main reason for being there....had she done that few weeks ago she may well have gone the same way as helen. Don't be fooled by the tears, she is one ambitious lady.”

This is appositive thread why not just stay in the Jay A.T. and stop your negativity.
PAUL HUDSON
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Don't watch Corrie, don't watch EE but have obviously watched SCD and Georgia has grown from a fairly typical celebrity type - i.e. the pretty young one from a soap of some kind who start off fairly nondescript - into a beautiful performer able to demonstrate emotional range in her routines.

Whether that in turn equates to being able to pull off a 7 performances a week West End role is open to debate but I'd certainly be quite happy to pay to watch her perform in roles which suited her.”

From what Craig said he clearly thinks she can! And they don't just look at them on the saturday night, they DO do research
Cadiva
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by PAUL HUDSON:
“From what Craig said he clearly thinks she can! And they don't just look at them on the saturday night, they DO do research”

If she can't sing, she can't do the West End musical so Craig may have said it and meant it but it doesn't mean she has the ability to do a 7 performance a week production.

And having been a regional journalist for 20 years which involved reviewing arts and entertainment, including two years working in North West London and covering productions in the city, I'm well aware of the myriad of celebrities who have appeared on stage when they really weren't capable of doing so.
TV acting is quite a radically different set of skills than theatre acting and being good at one doesn't automatically make you good at the other.

However, as I actually said in my post, I would quite happily pay to see Georgia on stage in a role which suited her for which there are many theatre roles not necessarily a big West End musical production.
Thom001
20-12-2015
That was a great thing that Craig said to Georgia following her superb charleston.

What I have been thinking is, when she was announced as a contestant, she had left her long-term role in Corrie and there had been talk of a career state-wise. I don't know if she was going to do that

Doing the show though and getting to the final, will have great benefits for her career. Like her fellow contestant, Jay has said, she deserves to be in the West End.
duckylucky
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by robbleona:
“on red button after the show when this 'theatre offer' from craig was mentioned, georgia said that was another 'box ticked', as if that was the main reason for being there....had she done that few weeks ago she may well have gone the same way as helen. Don't be fooled by the tears, she is one ambitious lady.”

Are you saying that ambitious people dont cry ? Good on Georgia for having ambition to follow her dream . And good on her for being chuffed to make a step towards that dream
bornfree
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Oh, please. She wasn't axed for any sort of crime against acting, but because the character was largely ignored and with her parents leaving, it was the perfect opportunity to get rid of her, too.

Georgia was completely neglected on Corrie, but to argue she was neglected and axed because she can't act is ridiculous when you have the likes of Fiz shoved down our throats every night, being treated as one half of some sort of golden couple.

Half of the cast would be gone if they axed characters based on the actors acting ability.”

Exactly I remember not being too impressed with Sarah Lancashire, but thinking back I think she was given a dire script. Look at the actress now. She is in so many good things and her acting is brilliant. It reflects the good scripts and the writing she is given. I hope Georgia gets some decent roles.
bornfree
20-12-2015
[quote=robbleona;80817986]on red button after the show when this 'theatre offer' from craig was mentioned, georgia said that was another 'box ticked', as if that was the main reason for being there....had she done that few weeks ago she may well have gone the same way as helen. Don't be fooled by the tears, she is one ambitious lady.[/QUOTE]

I am glad she is ambitious. In this day and age in very job people have to prove their worth and show ambition and drive. Gone are the day people just walked into jobs. I wish Georgia every success and good wished.
MACTOWIN
20-12-2015
[quote=bornfree;80818466]
Originally Posted by robbleona:
“on red button after the show when this 'theatre offer' from craig was mentioned, georgia said that was another 'box ticked', as if that was the main reason for being there....had she done that few weeks ago she may well have gone the same way as helen. Don't be fooled by the tears, she is one ambitious lady.[/QUOTE]

I am glad she is ambitious. In this day and age in very job people have to prove their worth and show ambition and drive. Gone are the day people just walked into jobs. I wish Georgia every success and good wished.”

Good Point.
JohnStannard
20-12-2015
I hope she takes him up on that and he does give her something in a show as the dance with a little more practise could possibly be good enough for a west end show. not just yet though
Miriam_R
20-12-2015
I've never seen Georgia in Corrie (don't watch it), but I've noticed a fair few soap actors that have improved their craft since moving from a soap to another type of TV or film job, even theatre. I've seen some eastenders actors in theatre and, for whatever weird reason, they seemed so much better at acting! Maybe that's why some actors don't like to stay too long in soaps, otherwise they'll feel they can't explore their true range (if they have wider capabilities that need nurturing or temping out).

Oddly I'm watching Kara Tointon in Sound of Music live (as I'm writing this) and I didn't have a clue she could sing! If Georgia can sing, improve on her acting (if she's as bad as some say) and even combine that with dancing, then she can carve herself a career in theatre,. It can take you world wide and could be very fulfilling if that's her dream (as seems to be).
daziechain
20-12-2015
Was she killed off in Corrie? They may well ask her back if not ... now that her profile is higher.
MACTOWIN
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“Was she killed off in Corrie? They may well ask her back if not ... now that her profile is higher.”

I think she is supposed to be in Portugal. I think they would have her back in a second.
notdebbiedingle
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“Was she killed off in Corrie? They may well ask her back if not ... now that her profile is higher.”

As a Corrie and now a Georgia fan I would say she would be an absolute fool to come back even if they did ask her!!
Her character, Katy was never used to any sort of potential & was paired with one of the worst acted characters on the show before being shoved into an affair with another of the worst acted characters ( now thankfully gone!!)
To top it off she then had a brief fling with one of the most unconvincing 'bad guys' ever to appear on the show!! Those were about the only s/l's she got in four years on the show (apart from having a sprog with her first partner, which we then never saw for months on end!!)
Suffice to say her part on Corrie got her name onto our TV screens & very little else really!!
daziechain
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“As a Corrie and now a Georgia fan I would say she would be an absolute fool to come back even if they did ask her!!
Her character, Katy was never used to any sort of potential & was paired with one of the worst acted characters on the show before being shoved into an affair with another of the worst acted characters ( now thankfully gone!!)
To top it off she then had a brief fling with one of the most unconvincing 'bad guys' ever to appear on the show!! Those were about the only s/l's she got in four years on the show (apart from having a sprog with her first partner, which we then never saw for months on end!!)
Suffice to say her part on Corrie got her name onto our TV screens & very little else really!!”

Yes but lots of people have started that way and built on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they asked her back ... whether she'd want to go is another question.
Belligerence
20-12-2015
She left Corrie at the right time, character was going nowhere fast. With the right sort of material, Georgia should be fine. As she's proved on Strictly she's quite versatile.
Heatherbell
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by robbleona:
“on red button after the show when this 'theatre offer' from craig was mentioned, georgia said that was another 'box ticked', as if that was the main reason for being there....had she done that few weeks ago she may well have gone the same way as helen. Don't be fooled by the tears, she is one ambitious lady.”

Nonsense .
It's the kind of thing one says when they get their first 10, then (hopefully) their first perfect 40 . Or a 100% positive critique from the notoriously pedantic craig . Or dancing to your favourite EVER song with a professional dancer on telly . Lots and lots of boxes to be ticked on strictly .
The girl done good and I wish her continued success .
Heatherbell
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“As a Corrie and now a Georgia fan I would say she would be an absolute fool to come back even if they did ask her!!
Her character, Katy was never used to any sort of potential & was paired with one of the worst acted characters on the show before being shoved into an affair with another of the worst acted characters ( now thankfully gone!!)
To top it off she then had a brief fling with one of the most unconvincing 'bad guys' ever to appear on the show!! Those were about the only s/l's she got in four years on the show (apart from having a sprog with her first partner, which we then never saw for months on end!!)
Suffice to say her part on Corrie got her name onto our TV screens & very little else really!!”

Kym Marsh.
Kate Forde.
The Peter Barlow character.
Leanne character.
Liz MacDonald character .
Sarah Louise Platt character .
Eileen's bad boy son.

To name but a few who had limited storylines in the past , left to pursue other things for years on end, and then returned to participate in some terrific storylines .
It can be a job for life, or till early retirement should you choose .
But I can see georgia in the west end shows , definitely . She has the energy and looks and work ethic to make a splash there .
Everlong Girl
21-12-2015
Incidentally I was watching Beauty and the Beast earlier and thought that (assuming Georgia can sing) she would make a very good Belle.
notdebbiedingle
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Kym Marsh.
Kate Forde.
The Peter Barlow character.
Leanne character.
Liz MacDonald character .
Sarah Louise Platt character .
Eileen's bad boy son.

To name but a few who had limited storylines in the past , left to pursue other things for years on end, and then returned to participate in some terrific storylines .
It can be a job for life, or till early retirement should you choose .
But I can see georgia in the west end shows , definitely . She has the energy and looks and work ethic to make a splash there .”

Sorry but got to disagree with you on this one!!

Of the names you mention Kym only ever left for maternity reasons, the rest all left to pursue other things but they'd all had plenty of huge storylines prior to leaving!!
Georgia/Katy was different in that she'd never been a major character, had very few storylines & I aren't even sure she left of her own accord to be honest!!

She should follow her new dream with the same zeal she embraced Strictly & I believe she has what I takes to be a huge success in theatre & shows!!
Corrie was a stepping stone, for which I'm sure she'll always be grateful but she's destined for far bigger things than a lifetime of being Katy Armstrong!!
David Waine
21-12-2015
I wouldn't put too much weight behind her Coronation Street performances (not that I saw them because I never watch it). As somebody previously pointed out, soap operas tend to be very formulaic because their turnaround is so tight. They simply don't have the time to polish a scene to perfection. This is also true of the scriptwriting. If there are no words to say, there is no episode, so the writers are under pressure to churn out scripts quickly. This is not conducive to creating classic material.

The fact that Georgia held down a role at all is evidence that she can act, but I also suspect that it did not bring out the best in her. Strictly did. Her Charleston and Show Dance, in particular, were as much acted as danced. Bruno, in one of his more serious moments, pointed out that her training from Giovanni had improved her as an actress as much as a dancer. She speaks naturally with a clear Manchester accent, but that is no stumbling block. Any actor worth their salt can mimic numerous accents. It doesn't stop them speaking with their natural one in real life. As for having the stamina required to deliver quality performances week-in, week-out in the theatre, well, she had the stamina to stay the course in Strictly, didn't she?
alan29
21-12-2015
I really liked her in Strictly where she showed that she can learn a 90 second routine. And she is a good looking girl. Soaps show that they can learn 90 seconds of lines and throw a "look" at the end of a scene.
But is that enough to sustain a West End career where she will be auditioning up against seasoned, trained, battle hardened pros?
She might well get a shoe-in at the start from Craig. But will that be enough at the end of that run?
mossy2103
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by alan29:
“I really liked her in Strictly where she showed that she can learn a 90 second routine. And she is a good looking girl. Soaps show that they can learn 90 seconds of lines and throw a "look" at the end of a scene.
But is that enough to sustain a West End career where she will be auditioning up against seasoned, trained, battle hardened pros?
She might well get a shoe-in at the start from Craig. But will that be enough at the end of that run?”

As an actress, apart from keeping her busy between "resting" periods, it simply adds another string to her bow. The other consideration might be whether she would want a full-on West End career anyway
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