So, with the absence of Kellie, Jay would have been competing on a completely level playing field against the likes of Carol, Jeremy, Iwan, Anthony, Daniel & Anita?

I would assume the inference was that Jay and Georgia shouldn't have been there either as I believe Bornfree was an Anita supporter (I may be wrong on that though and stand to be corrected).

I keep reading this claim that she taught dance. I can't find it anywhere outside of DS. I'm assuming it's totally unsubstantiated.

IIRC it was mentioned by someone who knew someone taught by her at Sylvia Young, but I don't believe there's ever been anything in black and white print one way or the other.
There's something here about her doing some teaching and helping out at a stage school in Bournemouth and how she "can't do it any more".

So there shouldn't have been a final at all and Anita should have just been handed the Glitterball weeks back?

Thinking about it, I would have preferred THAT scenario over tonight's debacle...

I suspect that would be their argument yes.

All sounds very tenuous. I'd imagine she was just brought in to inspire young actors, as she has found success on screen. I doubt they'd bring her in to teach dance when her career has had little or nothing to do with it.

Also something in the Mail about her being a drama teacher at SY until a couple of years ago so nothing about her teaching dance specifically no but she does say she was a teacher.
One of those half truths I suspect.

Ah ok, I don't doubt that she may have taught drama or something. But the implication that was thrown around was that she'd been teaching kids to dance over a long period.

What are you doing up anyway, Cadiva? It's so late! Must say I'm flagging

Not tonight he didn't. He was the weakest of the three and Kellie was the strongest.

By a country mile in BOTH cases.

I don't understand all this nonsense of people saying Kellie is being overmarked. Is it just all the Jay fans who want to believe that he is as good? She was absolutely excellent tonight as she's been every week! Her footwork exceeds that of all the other contestants and. In terms of technique, consistency and the dances on the final (so based on everything) Kellie should've won. I'm assuming it was all the Jay fans who judged voted nonstop, because to the general viewing audience who vote based on dance, and to the people who only watch the final: Jay was the weakest and Kellie was miles ahead of the competition. Yes, the three finalists possess excellent dance ability, but based on dances and technique in the final, there was no competition. Kellie WAS robbed.

Most of these shows are. The X factor has produced a stream of young male winners who have gone nowhere , and its most successful contestants are often those who didn't make the final . Strictly's default winning position is a young male, or a male who looks as if they need mothering . Present the SCD electorate with a young male who could be an x factor winner, and already comes with a big female fanbase, and its very likely that the male will win. It doesn't matter if they come third in the actual dancing, - because so have 4 other male winners. Females only tend to win if they are streets ahead of the competition, the male is one who has no votes for some other reason , or all the opposition is female.

I can't bloody sleep, full of aches and pains today, think it was trying to walk on slippery wet surfaces with my crutches earlier


Except that up until tonight the split had been 50:50 male to female.


People are told to vote for their favourite, why are you surprised when they do just that? You might think Kellie was the best dancer, that doesn't mean others do.
Tonight she produced three routines of almost identical frenetic paced "jazzy" style dancing with big project to the back of the theatre show face expressions danced at 100 miles per hour and very little contrast or light and shade in them to show off her different skills.

Each of the other three couples produced showdances which demonstrated the techniques of the dances they'd learnt during their time on SCD, some danced those better than the others but all were great examples of how far they'd come.
Kellie danced a Lindyhop which was more Charleston than Lindy, another Charleston and a Tango which, again, was mostly danced at full pelt.

She's certainly a great energy filled dancer with performance skills but I don't want to see the same thing in every single routine from her.

I couldn't have put it in better words myself Steve.

Sorry to hear that! I have trouble sleeping too, but I can't complain about any aches. Best wishes to you.

Thanks Nina, we've not always seen eye to eye but it's been a pleasure having those debates

I shall dose myself up on co codamol and head off I think

The final three celebrities were all winners - lasting the entire series and getting to perform all the dances. I think the win is more important for the professional than the celebrity who treats it as a fantastic opportunity to get some one on one professional training.

Let's us all have a bit of Christmas cheer now and congratulate all the professionals and all the celebrities.

How was she robbed? The public was asked to vote for their winner and Jay and Aliona got the most votes to win..... all legal and all.

Kellie was over-marked horrendously badly last night it was sickening to watch. One in the face for the biased Judges I say

Dance wise, she was clearly the best in the final part 1, although not in part 2. Overall, dance wise, she should have won. But, in the final, Strictly is a popularity contest, not a dance contest. It's not like this hasn't happened plenty of times before.

They weren't biased, they gave a clear indication of who they thought was the best dancer on the night. That's their job.

At some point or another over the series, every one of the four couples in the final had been top of the judges leaderboard. That doesn't suggest any hint of bias now does it.

Just re watched Jay's Final Paso and I seriously want to unappreciate that he didn't get 40.

Georgia's charleston was fab, but she went obviously out of time in the final turns, and IMO Jay's Paso was the dance of the night - his obvious joy during the dance, he put his heart and soul into it, you could (finally) see him 'living' the dance, fist in the air grinning in the final floor spin, punching his chest as he knelt for the final pose.....

That was a Strictly Final dance.

(No dispute for Georgia's 40 as she was utterly electrifying, but if she got 40, Jay more than deserved it).

Compared to that dance all of Kellie's tonight were stage school hammy, lumpen, technically lacking, cold. Over marked all night - she was in the wrong hold all way through the Tango ffs! Len picks up on technique, but not that?

Jaywozrobbed!!!!!!!! of a 40

I was a Georgia supporter and didn't begrudge one point of Kellie's scores, in fact I thought Kellie was so good last night I gave her two votes. I think some Jay and Aliona fans are in denial about their favourite's performance in the final. The judges were pretty much on the mark last night.

I agree, Kellie was the best Ladt night, it's sad that people don't like Kevin because he has been in three finals and his sister and wife are in the dance team.they were the best by far Last night.
Aliona were the best over all, but not Ladt night.