Hear hear and THATS a true winner

Although not a big fan of kellie, she was the best on the night and should have won, in my opinion the scores where about right, but the public vote well, i don't know

Was based on more than one night? Like the rest of the series maybe?

Next year they should just train for 3 months in private and the judges can choose the best three to perform in the final and then we can all vote on the dancing "on the night."

People say what's the point in the final if the public have already chosen their winner, but was is the point of the series if we should only vote on the final?

[quote=Suirad;80812214]I really feel Kellie and Kevin were robbed tonight,but so were the viewers ,it's been a brilliant series ,But the winner wasn't a champion. QUOTE]

He most certainly was to all of us that voted for him

Show us your workings

Forum reaction to Kellie seemed to go in the following order:
"Dancing a bit hyperactive and 'in your face' isn't it?...
... Kellie and Kevin a bit jumpy and screamy in the Winkle tower...
... Kellie looks a bit old and unattractive and never has any nice outits, does she?
... Who does this person thinks she is? Get her out of my face!"

She might be tiresomely bouncy in real life but couldn't you just put up with her hanging around for an hour on your telly screens every week? No? Okay, I'll shut up then

just have one episode then,

just have one episode then,

no let the judges and the beeb show theirs first

I think Kellie didn't win for a number of reasons including her screaming and jumping up and down at almost every turn.

Jay and other contestants being under marked with some great routines.

The judges over marking Kellie at the final when others - like Georgia were just as good.

Perhaps being paired with Kevin also affected her score - there are too many Cliftons (3 of them) now on the show. Think one of them should NOT come back next year.

Reasons why Jay won:
He was as good a dancer as anyone by the final.
He has been consistently good from week one.
He is a good looking (or so I am told) who was in a popular band.
He comes across (and we don’t know what any of them are like in real life) as being a nice, self-effacing and fairly genuine sort of guy.
He wasn’t marked fairly by the judges on several occasions, the public hate to see this and will vote to put this right.

In fact I can’t see any real negatives for Jay at all. People may have issues with his professional partner but that rarely sways people. After about week three it was almost nailed on he was going to win.

Throughout the series Kevin and Aliona have cleverly choreographed their dances to their respective partner's strengths.

The fact that Jay's dancing skill is much more understated than Kellie's (except for the jive) doesn't make him less competent a dancer than Kellie.

Jay and Aliona's showdance may not have been the 'crowdpleaser' that viewers hoped for but it was beautifully danced and that's what mattered.

Craig's determination to deny giving Jay a ten was quite obvious in my opinion and what I found ironic was the delight that Jay showed in getting a nine from him.

Total fail, Craig.

Rubbish, Jay was a worthy winner. You can winge all you like Jay won and that is that.

Nailed it. I've seen seen a reaction on SCD like the one when Jay and Aliona danced the jive.

I honestly think I was watching something else , judges scores for Kelly were bizarre ! Personally I think she should have gone weeks ago !

I would have hoofed her out after Oom Pah Pah.
That had as little of the correct dance as Anitas exit dance.

Maybe Karen can just change her name back to Hauer - that should make people bizarrely hung up on numbers and last names happy and it means we get to keep all three great pros on the show. Win/win. 👍🏻

To the actual thread - Kellie wasn't robbed over the course of the series. Yes she had a better couple of weeks than Jay and Georgia and maybe if voting was solely about what happened on the night she would have won, but that has never been how it works. I found her pretty average before the QF stage and although Jay had a really average final, I think over the course of the series he deserved to win. I think the important thing for people to remember is not to think ill of Jay because of how terribly classless and baiting some of his fans have been - he seems a good, deserving winner who just had an off night. It happens.

Jays fans didnt need to bait and lose class, his critics have been unashamedly spiteful towards a lovely, polite lad who got on with his job week in week out without the drama some of the others applied. If people cannot understand the loathing of the Cliftons, I certainly cant see it for this lad.

I don't think he had an 'off' night. The judges gave him a tricky dance, Georgia too, and Kellie a straightforward early one which she did fine in the first time around, and then overmarked her.

Disliking Jay's showdance had nothing to do with how well it was danced and the Judges should have kept their counsel far more than they did. Kellie's wasn't any more than subjectively 'better' to THEM, it wasn't more skilled and 'in your face' performance is not necessarily 'better' than lyrical and understated. Again, Georgia has been lost in the melee here, I thought it was ordinary and a bit twee, but she danced it well and it was lovely.

And Jay's PASO, was far superior to the Star Wars Charleston which was well done, but simple and less skilled, and hugely shown up by Georgia's, which had a couple of timing and balance faults.

Where is the huge gap between any of them? No where, the judges acted APPALLINGLY in my opinion, and made the final unpleasant and unkind, as if Jay didn't deserve it, when ANY of them were worthy.

I'm really annoyed about it.

Agree. Think this nails why the viewers voted for Jay.

If he hadn't won then Georgia should have.

Kellie is a brilliant performer who nails her dances, but to me she isn't as good a dancer as the other two.

Think the fuss in the Murdoch owned Sun is just another excuse to get at the BBC. If Kellie had won, they would have been accusing the BBC of a 'fix' for a BBC employee.

Jay got the most votes from the public in the Final - there's no way that can be fixed as it's audited and double checked.

Maybe some people voted lots - but there's nothing to stop them voting lots for the others too. Jay has been the top of the pre- final polls and has more viewed dances on YouTube, No surprise he won.

These /\ /\ /\ /\ (among others but thery're near the top and fresh in my mind )

As I've said before, how the hell can the GBP not voting in sufficient numbers = robbed?

Kellie's SCD persona, dance choice & execution were Marmite - even if Kevin 'from Grimsby' Clifton encouraged one of those things and was largely responsible for the other two.

But his win has been overshadowed by the fact that Kellie was robbed. Check online, both papers and twitter. Even Alan Sugar (who I don't like) made it known that he thought Kellie should've won. Miranda Hart too.

Kellie was the best performer on the night (as well as most weeks). Clearly the public don't vote on the dances.

Obviously not everyone thought Kellie was the best on the night (as well as most weeks). Jay, Helen and Georgia were better over the series.

I am delighted Jay won and Kellie was not robbed.

I'm surprised Sugar found the time to like someone other than himself

And as for Ms Hart. She's hardly Roxie-esque in her dancing knowledge and expertise