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bettyboom43
20-12-2015
The judges totally raved about kellies performances tonight and some have been saying that they were being biased towards the BBC star to give eastenders a boast, which I think is a load of rubbish. People have also said that the judges over mark to alter the leader board. Although tonights leaderboard didn't alter the voting as such, people could definitely be influenced by it, so surely the judges wouldn't have been biased towards the BBC star and push her towards the win when she's not doing the tour, that would actually harm the shows brand as those who had bought tickets for the tour would be disappointed not to see the winner and could cause more controversy.

Also did anyone else think that Jay and aluona desperately looked like they wanted to snog when they finished their last dance and when they won. Not saying they are having an affair, just think they are so close and couldn't think of a way to express their pleasure of winning. Most winners cry or jump up and down with.joy, Jay and aliona didn't know what to do. It was a bit odd but everyone is different .

Finally there has been stories in the paper about the judges wanting to leave and Darcy and Bruno not liking Craig. When you see clips behind the scenes, all the judges look like they get on great. Bruno had his hand on Craig's knee during last week's lens lense. Why do all the papers like to cause aggro all of the time with this rubbish. Can't we just enjoy the fact that there is a great British entertainment show that is still going strong after 13 years rather than claiming a fix. I'm bored of these bitter ex pro's (ola) and bitter ex contestants. Just enjoy the extra exposure and money and leave gracefully!
Venetian
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by bettyboom43:
“The judges totally raved about kellies performances tonight and some have been saying that they were being biased towards the BBC star to give eastenders a boast, which I think is a load of rubbish. People have also said that the judges over mark to alter the leader board. Although tonights leaderboard didn't alter the voting as such, people could definitely be influenced by it, so surely the judges wouldn't have been biased towards the BBC star and push her towards the win when she's not doing the tour, that would actually harm the shows brand as those who had bought tickets for the tour would be disappointed not to see the winner and could cause more controversy.

Also did anyone else think that Jay and aluona desperately looked like they wanted to snog when they finished their last dance and when they won
. Not saying they are having an affair, just think they are so close and couldn't think of a way to express their pleasure of winning..Most winners cry or jump up and down with.joy, Jay and aliona didn't know what to do. It was a bit odd but everyone is different .

Finally there has been stories in the paper about the judges wanting to leave and Darcy and Bruno not liking Craig. When you see clips behind the scenes, all the judges look like they get on great. Bruno had his hand on Craig's knee during last week's lens lense. Why do all the papers like to cause aggro all of the time with this rubbish. Can't we just enjoy the fact that there is a great British entertainment show that is still going strong after 13 years rather than claiming a fix. I'm bored of these bitter ex pro's (ola) and bitter ex contestants. Just enjoy the extra exposure and money and leave gracefully!”

No. And why was it odd ..
bettyboom43
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“No. And why was it odd .. ”

As I said, most winners cry, jump up and down with joy, celebrate with their fellow contestants, they just were a bit all over each other and a bit awkward. As I said, everyone is different though.
Fatima502
20-12-2015
I agree with everything you've said bettyboom43. The reaction of Jay/Aliona was somewhat strange, but I guess that's one of the reasons why they won, because they were a bit different. I can't see Jay making millions as a dance performer as some tabloids are suggesting. This win might be his career peak – but that's not a bad pinnacle!
Vodka_Drinka
20-12-2015
I agree.

I note the DM are referring to it as a "controversial final" when there was nothing remotely controversial about it. I suppose they are unable to call it all a "fix" now because it was solely based on the public vote, but can't help taking a swing either way.
snafu65
20-12-2015
Jay and Aliona's subdued reaction was probably because they were shocked they won after a good but not final worthy set of performances.
daziechain
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Fatima502:
“I agree with everything you've said bettyboom43. The reaction of Jay/Aliona was somewhat strange, but I guess that's one of the reasons why they won, because they were a bit different. I can't see Jay making millions as a dance performer as some tabloids are suggesting. This win might be his career peak – but that's not a bad pinnacle!”

You're underestimating him ... as lots of people have done this series.
If it's what he wants to do then many doors will be open to him.
mad_madge_morri
20-12-2015
Very strange reaction to winning. They seemed totally wrapped up in each other and somewhere apart from the real world. Most odd. But there again, I have found him most odd all through the run. That reaction on ITT about wanting to rip a toddlers arms off was most bizarre, Granted it was probably a knee jerk caused by nerves but why on earth was the idea in his brain to start with? Very strange young man
Uafasach
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I agree.

I note the DM are referring to it as a "controversial final" when there was nothing remotely controversial about it. I suppose they are unable to call it all a "fix" now because it was solely based on the public vote, but can't help taking a swing either way.”

They also said Kellie had record breaking points...which means the person writing it isn't a strictly fan!!! (We all know that accolade goes to Caroline)
donna255
20-12-2015
Perhaps what he said was true, he had taken something to calm his nerves and was a little spaced out.

I did spot Aliona's husband in the audience a few times. So I doubt any snogging would be going on.

As for the newspapers total bollocks, Jay was the favourite from the start and his fans stayed with him until the end.
Paul237
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by mad_madge_morri:
“Very strange reaction to winning. They seemed totally wrapped up in each other and somewhere apart from the real world. Most odd. But there again, I have found him most odd all through the run. That reaction on ITT about wanting to rip a toddlers arms off was most bizarre, Granted it was probably a knee jerk caused by nerves but why on earth was the idea in his brain to start with? Very strange young man”

He's not strange, he's just a quiet guy. It seems odd when you think he was in a band, but he was never one of the main ones, he was happier being in the background.

Strictly tends to attract extroverts who won't shut up, so when you get someone like Jay who's a man of few words he gets labelled as strange.
bettyboom43
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I agree.

I note the DM are referring to it as a "controversial final" when there was nothing remotely controversial about it. I suppose they are unable to call it all a "fix" now because it was solely based on the public vote, but can't help taking a swing either way.”

I didn't say the final was controversial, I said the winner not being on the tour was controversial.
bettyboom43
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Uafasach:
“They also said Kellie had record breaking points...which means the person writing it isn't a strictly fan!!! (We all know that accolade goes to Caroline)”

Who said Kellie had record breaking points, I didn't.
Janet43
20-12-2015
I thought he was just so overwhelmed that he couldn't react and Aliona was doing her best to keep him from breaking down.
bornfree
20-12-2015
No it wasn't fixed for Aliona and Jay to win but the judges did fix it for Kellie and Katie to be in the final.
Sandra Bee
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“I thought he was just so overwhelmed that he couldn't react and Aliona was doing her best to keep him from breaking down.”



Yes, he was on the verge of tears and she must have known it wouldn't take much
for a total tearfest. I think he reacted the way he's reacted to his success every week, with modest surprise.
Vodka_Drinka
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by bettyboom43:
“I didn't say the final was controversial, I said the winner not being on the tour was controversial.”

Eh?
DanielF
20-12-2015
Depends when you think the manipulation occurs. You could argue that the dance-offs were "fixed" in such a way that they ensured the four dancers they wanted to push made the final. Then you could argue over the editing of VTs, position, social media hype and even capacity of the phone lines.

Or you could get a life
lundavra
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I agree.

I note the DM are referring to it as a "controversial final" when there was nothing remotely controversial about it. I suppose they are unable to call it all a "fix" now because it was solely based on the public vote, but can't help taking a swing either way.”

They probably had that written beforehand and would have printed whoever won.
abigailsmum
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by bettyboom43:
“I didn't say the final was controversial, I said the winner not being on the tour was controversial.”

BIB - I think you'll find he IS on the tour (which I said on the spoiler thread 2 weeks ago) http://strictlycomedancinglive.com/line-up/
bettyboom43
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“No it wasn't fixed for Aliona and Jay to win but the judges did fix it for Kellie and Katie to be in the final.”

Tonight just proved that people vote for their favourite and don't necessarily listen to the judges. So the judges wouldn't have made much difference to the semi final. The person that kept Anita out of the final (who was my favourite) was Gleb with his bad choreography of a salsa. I loved watching that dance but it wasn't a salsa it was the wow traditional showdance that was missing last night. I did like Kellies showdance but it was a lindihop without anything special for the showdance as you get all the tricks traditionally anyway and georgia's was nice and a nice touch with the blindfold but her Charleston had more of a wow factor, especially with that lift, jays to me was disappointing although very well danced. That us why Anita and Gleb didn't get through. It was a brilliant dance and well danced but a few balance issues and not the dance it was billed to be (in the same way georgias Rumba got lower marks the first time, because not the right dance content although well danced).
bettyboom43
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by abigailsmum:
“BIB - I think you'll find he IS on the tour (which I said on the spoiler thread 2 weeks ago) http://strictlycomedancinglive.com/line-up/”

I said if Kellie won it would be controversial if the winner wasn't on the tour. That is 3 times in this thread, where people have totally changed what I said and commented in a smarmy way. Before you make a smarmy comment, why not actually read what I said!
Stig
20-12-2015
The DS poll said that 50% of respondents voted for Jay and Aliona. They won.

The judges (and he other celebrities) clearly wanted Kellie to win as they thought she was the best.

It's not fixed. The newspapers always look for non-existent controversy.
maninthequeue
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“The DS poll said that 50% of respondents voted for Jay and Aliona. They won.

The judges (and he other celebrities) clearly wanted Kellie to win as they thought she was the best.

It's not fixed. The newspapers always look for non-existent controversy.”

Except, when that show is (fi)X-Factor, when they always look the other way and whistle.
bettyboom43
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“The DS poll said that 50% of respondents voted for Jay and Aliona. They won.

The judges (and he other celebrities) clearly wanted Kellie to win as they thought she was the best.

It's not fixed. The newspapers always look for non-existent controversy.”

Plus its not exactly a shock that three of the dancers with the most training and thus probably the most technical ability, were in the final three, shock horror, fix fix! Just cos they are the most technical doesn't mean as viewers we have to enjoy it more, but it does often lead to the higher scores from the judges who mark on technical ability as well as performance. Fixing it for certain people to get to the final is rubbish imo.
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