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aggs
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Agree


I think the pro dancers are used to forgetting any inhibitions, as they dance close to partners all the time. There is a genuine closeness that papers exploit, it's like the celebrities wearing a lot of clothes at the start, but cut back more and more as they get into it.

When your with a dance partner and dancing close and spending long hours together friendship blossoms, your normal comfort zones adjust and your less inhibited, papers just exploit that.”

There's a training clip of Colin and Erin's rumba for the final of series 2, which has Matt Cutler giving Colin some pointers with Erin. At one point you can hear off camera Colin say 'so you can touch her boob!' and Matt and Erin answer matter of factly - and slightly exapseratedly - 'yes' in unison
roseblue1
21-12-2015
He has been on TV this morning and stated that Aliona and her husband have become incredibly close to all of his family.

No affair.
shrinkingviolet
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“He has been on TV this morning and stated that Aliona and her husband have become incredibly close to all of his family.

No affair.”

That isn't scandalous enough, I'm afraid so don't expect it to be reported it believed. People would rather believe that Aliona's 'poor humiliated husband' is cuckolded and anything else rather than believe the very boring truth.
roseblue1
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“That isn't scandalous enough, I'm afraid so don't expect it to be reported it believed. Peopke would rather believe that Aliona's 'poor humiliated husband' is cuckolded and anything else rather than believe the very boring truth.”

Very true...
Double_Trouble
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by steff0202:
“Am I the only I one who feels really sorry for her husband, regardless of whether there is anything going on. Aliona and Jay have been be too touchy feeley I would be so hurt if that was my husband with a work partner. For those defending this as innocent put you self in Vincent 's shoes, does she not care!”

Not really as from what I have observed and read from Aliona and Jay themselves (rather than "sources" or "insiders") then Aliona and Vincent have a secure relationship and they have welcomed Jay as a friend, as a couple, and that has extended to his family with whom you often see Vincent sat next to during the shows.

Judging by Aliona's character I don't imagine for one minute she would be attracted to a wet blanket and from what I've seen he seems to be a stable and supportive partner who is mature enough to deal with a tactile relationship as part of what is her job (and was when he met her).

If he was so overwrought then I would imagine he wouldn't have much to do with Jay and his family and certainly not driving them to Blackpool as a trio, or spending time down the pub with his family or forming a relationship with Jay as a friend himself.
Becky245
21-12-2015
This is all false because Jay is dating me 😅
Double_Trouble
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“There's a training clip of Colin and Erin's rumba for the final of series 2, which has Matt Cutler giving Colin some pointers with Erin. At one point you can hear off camera Colin say 'so you can touch her boob!' and Matt and Erin answer matter of factly - and slightly exapseratedly - 'yes' in unison ”

I've only just read this after posting, but yes this is bang on the nail. So many previous contestants have said about how they started off being very conscious and paranoid about bodies and where to/not touch, and what to/not to wear and by the end they are completely over it.

As a professional dancer and especially if you do dances with lifts then it's inevitably that you are going to touch/get touched in places that you wouldn't when walking down the street (well at least where I live in rural UK anyway) and it's so not a big deal

e.g. Aliona is exceptionally tactile with Tristan as well, has done a piece to camera hugging Aljaz and kissing him on the cheek, and with Anton she had his face in both hands, and with Matt Cutler kissed him on the lips after their samba as well (and there's no way she was having an affair with him!)
Seymour
21-12-2015
Who will care what they are doing this time next week... LOL
Double_Trouble
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“Who will care what they are doing this time next week... LOL”

The tabloids may if it means an easy article where they can re-compile all the previous sludge and add a new headline to it. Easy journalism (and I use that word lightly) for the junior reporter
roseblue1
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Becky245:
“This is all false because Jay is dating me 😅”

Lucky thing
PJenks
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Double_Trouble:
“I've only just read this after posting, but yes this is bang on the nail. So many previous contestants have said about how they started off being very conscious and paranoid about bodies and where to/not touch, and what to/not to wear and by the end they are completely over it.

As a professional dancer and especially if you do dances with lifts then it's inevitably that you are going to touch/get touched in places that you wouldn't when walking down the street (well at least where I live in rural UK anyway) and it's so not a big deal

e.g. Aliona is exceptionally tactile with Tristan as well, has done a piece to camera hugging Aljaz and kissing him on the cheek, and with Anton she had his face in both hands, and with Matt Cutler kissed him on the lips after their samba as well (and there's no way she was having an affair with him!)”

Lucky girl!!
Elsa
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“He has been on TV this morning and stated that Aliona and her husband have become incredibly close to all of his family.

No affair.”

I think it's possible he wasn't telling the truth. Sometimes people don't blab all their personal details on television to an interviewer.

From what I've seen (photos, show/ITT video) and read (sharing the same dressing room; that she used to be too touchy-feely with the male pro dancers), I think there's something going on and maybe Vincent doesn't want to do anything about it, at least for the moment, maybe to avoid fanning the negative-publicity flames.

It changes my opinion of Aliona but not so much Jay. She looks like the instigator in all the pictures and video I've seen.
shrinkingviolet
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“I think it's possible he wasn't telling the truth. Sometimes people don't blab all their personal details on television to an interviewer.

From what I've seen (photos, show/ITT video) and read (sharing the same dressing room; that she used to be too touchy-feely with the male pro dancers), I think there's something going on and maybe Vincent doesn't want to do anything about it, at least for the moment, maybe to avoid fanning the negative-publicity flames.

It changes my opinion of Aliona but not so much Jay. She looks like the instigator in all the pictures and video I've seen.”



At this whole post but in particular the bib.
Elsa
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“

At this whole post but in particular the bib.”

I hope I'm wrong but that's how it looks to me. It's inappropriate the way she holds his face in her hands and kisses him, choreographs his head on her chest, etc. It's too intimate. And brazen!

In his case, he's in a no-win situation. He's probably very attracted to her, they're in a touchy-feely situation, and she doesn't seem to mind; and if he was cold or rejecting to her, it would ruin things and make for a very difficult situation as she might get her feelings hurt and he'd still be infatuated with her - she's gorgeous!! - I can't blame him for not resisting.
shrinkingviolet
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“I hope I'm wrong but that's how it looks to me. It's inappropriate the way she holds his face in her hands and kisses him, choreographs his head on her chest, etc. It's too intimate. And brazen!

In his case, he's in a no-win situation. He's probably very attracted to her, they're in a touchy-feely situation, and she doesn't seem to mind; and if he was cold or rejecting to her, it would ruin things and make for a very difficult situation as she might get her feelings hurt and he'd still be infatuated with her - she's gorgeous!! - I can't blame him for not resisting.”

He's not a child - this nonsense that poor widdle men can't help themselves is so patronising, sexist and dated.

I am really, really surprised at how desperate some people are for scandal that they are willing to go to such lengths as to using choreography to justify it. I guess the tabloids have to have a market somewhere right enough - they say one thing and somehow it becomes fact. Ok.
Penny Crayon
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“I hope I'm wrong but that's how it looks to me. It's inappropriate the way she holds his face in her hands and kisses him, choreographs his head on her chest, etc. It's too intimate. And brazen!

In his case, he's in a no-win situation. He's probably very attracted to her, they're in a touchy-feely situation, and she doesn't seem to mind; and if he was cold or rejecting to her, it would ruin things and make for a very difficult situation as she might get her feelings hurt and he'd still be infatuated with her - she's gorgeous!! - I can't blame him for not resisting.”

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm - do you not think you're reading a bit much into this?
edy10
21-12-2015
Lol..... surprised to see that this thread is STILL open




I did read the comments on the dailyfail ( almost 1800 comments ....now this is a record because I don't think I've ever seen that many comments on a Strictly story, winner or not) ...interesting comments .
Elsa
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm - do you not think you're reading a bit much into this?”

I was just explaining to shrinkingviolet about why I thought the way I did (bit in bold question).

Look, I couldn't care less what's going on - but from very early on, I thought they were acting like lovers, so when the tabs come out with more stuff, I tend to believe it because I had already noticed the suspicious behaviours.

But more than 50% of women cheat on their husbands - who cares? Maybe she has an open marriage. Or maybe she's just playing a game to get publicity and Vincent's in on it. I don't really care but I can't turn off my eyes and brain when I see people behave like that.
robbleona
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“What?!!! But according to the Sun he's in a love tangle for Georgia!!! :Rolls eyes:”

surely the cliftons and kellie can't be left out of this 'story'...
any scriptwriters out there??

ps jay cuddled up with 'lorraine' this morning.....are they at 'it' too?
robbleona
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“I was just explaining to shrinkingviolet about why I thought the way I did (bit in bold question).

Look, I couldn't care less what's going on - but from very early on, I thought they were acting like lovers, so when the tabs come out with more stuff, I tend to believe it because I had already noticed the suspicious behaviours.

But more than 50% of women cheat on their husbands - who cares? Maybe she has an open marriage. Or maybe she's just playing a game to get publicity and Vincent's in on it. I don't really care but I can't turn off my eyes and brain when I see people behave like that.”

I Really like aliona. But I can't see what she sees in that multi-millionaire Vincent bloke anyway! Would have thought he'd have been more up abbey clancy's street.
Penny Crayon
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“I was just explaining to shrinkingviolet about why I thought the way I did (bit in bold question).

Look, I couldn't care less what's going on - but from very early on, I thought they were acting like lovers, so when the tabs come out with more stuff, I tend to believe it because I had already noticed the suspicious behaviours.

But more than 50% of women cheat on their husbands - who cares? Maybe she has an open marriage. Or maybe she's just playing a game to get publicity and Vincent's in on it. I don't really care but I can't turn off my eyes and brain when I see people behave like that.”

Is that an actual fact?
Elsa
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Is that an actual fact?”

I found the stats here - didn't research any further though:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124040

http://magazine.foxnews.com/love/che...eat-more-women

Quote:
“I Really like aliona. But I can't see what she sees in that multi-millionaire Vincent bloke anyway! Would have thought he'd have been more up abbey clancy's street.”

Shappy
21-12-2015
I think something will go on later (on tour? If she leaves her husband?), even if it hasn't happened yet.

It's weird to be walking to the wrap party holding hands with someone else when you're married, and if Vincent is just out of shot as some have suggested, why not hold his hand?! No other couple (e.g. Georgia and Giovanni, Kellie and Kevin) were kissing, cuddling or pawing in the same way. The loving, long, lingering gazes and face cupping after the win is so different to how any other couple has ever reacted upon receipt of the glitterball. The closest I can remember is Kara and Artem and we all know what happened there. Tom Chambers even gushed about his wife before thanking Camilla.

Plenty of married or people in serious relationships have ended up with their strictly partner: Matt and Flavia, Joe and Kristina, Rachel and Pasha. So it isn't outside the realms of possibility that it may happen with Jay and Aliona.

Aliona has said having a family is important to her and she's 31 so she'll probably want to start a family in the next 5 years. Whether she wants to risk that and go with a much younger man who may not want those things soon is hard to tell. Her husband is about 10 years older than her so he's the safe bet I guess. She said in one interview that her husband adores her, but didn't mention adoring him which I found a bit odd.
yellowlabbie
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“I think something will go on later (on tour? If she leaves her husband?), even if it hasn't happened yet.

It's weird to be walking to the wrap party holding hands with someone else when you're married, and if Vincent is just out of shot as some have suggested, why not hold his hand?! No other couple (e.g. Georgia and Giovanni, Kellie and Kevin) were kissing, cuddling or pawing in the same way. The loving, long, lingering gazes and face cupping after the win is so different to how any other couple has ever reacted upon receipt of the glitterball. The closest I can remember is Kara and Artem and we all know what happened there. Tom Chambers even gushed about his wife before thanking Camilla.

Plenty of married or people in serious relationships have ended up with their strictly partner: Matt and Flavia, Joe and Kristina, Rachel and Pasha. So it isn't outside the realms of possibility that it may happen with Jay and Aliona.

Aliona has said having a family is important to her and she's 31 so she'll probably want to start a family in the next 5 years. Whether she wants to risk that and go with a much younger man who may not want those things soon is hard to tell. Her husband is about 10 years older than her so he's the safe bet I guess. She said in one interview that her husband adores her, but didn't mention adoring him which I found a bit odd.”

Yes and Rachel was only married about a year.
Fee77
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“I think something will go on later (on tour? If she leaves her husband?), even if it hasn't happened yet.

It's weird to be walking to the wrap party holding hands with someone else when you're married, and if Vincent is just out of shot as some have suggested, why not hold his hand?! No other couple (e.g. Georgia and Giovanni, Kellie and Kevin) were kissing, cuddling or pawing in the same way. The loving, long, lingering gazes and face cupping after the win is so different to how any other couple has ever reacted upon receipt of the glitterball. The closest I can remember is Kara and Artem and we all know what happened there. Tom Chambers even gushed about his wife before thanking Camilla.

Plenty of married or people in serious relationships have ended up with their strictly partner: Matt and Flavia, Joe and Kristina, Rachel and Pasha. So it isn't outside the realms of possibility that it may happen with Jay and Aliona.

Aliona has said having a family is important to her and she's 31 so she'll probably want to start a family in the next 5 years. Whether she wants to risk that and go with a much younger man who may not want those things soon is hard to tell. Her husband is about 10 years older than her so he's the safe bet I guess. She said in one interview that her husband adores her, but didn't mention adoring him which I found a bit odd.”

I thought the same, people are saying Vincent has been cut out of the pictures, but it doesn't make sense because if he was there then she would be holding his hand.

Jay has pretty much said it was just an act to create a romance for the dances, but the closeness seems to carry on off the dance floor, so he is kinda contradicting himself.

At the end of the day nobody knows but the two of them, what has happened, or how they feel about each other, everyone can say it's either rubbish or not, but they don't actually know one way or the other.

I expect there will be plenty more pictures when the tour starts.
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