Seems obvious to me.
Don't allow judges to vote in the final. Had Kellie not received full marks, this discussion wouldn't be taking place and the winner could be enjoying their moment.

The Final belongs to the public anyway in my opinion, so why give scores to "guide us".
Are we so stupid that we need guidance?

Remove the paddles. Ban remarks, such as "You're my number one" but allow a critique from the judges.

If the BBC oppose this then I can only think they love the controversy as it keeps their programme in the headlines long after the event, which would be fine, if it weren't at the expense of the winner.

I might have my rose tinted glasses on, but I thought that the judges - while still voting in the past- used to be more evenly handed.
"You're all winners, you've grown as a dancer etc etc"
And while the scores were not tied, they were always so close as to leave it open

The judges spoilt the show for me in a way . Its a feel good Saturday night entertainment show . Their negativity annoyed me . They all but told Katie she had no place in the final despite they putting her there

Even simpler, make sure the one who you know is going to win isn't upstaged and outdanced by not one but two of the runners-up.

Len saying "I love you" to Kellie, Craig offering Georgia a West End part, Darcey saying Jay is her No.1. It looks like Bruno is the only one who marked on what he saw and on the previous outings!

BIB I think that's indeed it. Controversy = inches in tabloids and posts in social media which all brings publicity and I suppose the Beeb assumes that some of this will convert to viewing public. The X factor blaized this exact trail for years until people got sick to death of all of the stunts. I do hope the BBC and SCD are not foolish enough to court the same fate.

Absolutely

It's not any different than previous years. I really don't understand the uproar in regards to the judges scores in the final - the only reason people are talking about it is because some (not all) seem to be feeling a bit sore that Jay didn't get a 40, but he isn't the only winner who has won without a 40 dance on his slate. And honestly, if he had cared about that he would have done the jive and got it - I think it means more to some fans than to him.

Agree on TV this morning it did not bother him...and he was so kind about Kellie.

I thought that said "Remove the paddIES". In which case - yes, a good suggestion. I do think the public like a good debate though and judges add to that, even in a Final when their scores don't count. I suppose all the contestants could dance and receive gushing comments from all the judges throughout with no scoring. Would the GBP actually like that though? You know DS - does love a good paddy or three

I've just said this on another thread. It's so simple, I don't know why it carries on.

They didn't out dance him as far as I'm concerned, of course it's all subjective, as were those votes which seemed contrived. They had one winner but luckily it was in their heads

You are right, exactly the same thing with Tom Chambers. Third with the judges on the final night, but winning according to the public

At the outset the show was all about the celebrities.

Over time the show has grown into what it is today, and with that the judges have become celebrities in their own right ( who, by and large, had ever heard of Craig, Len or Bruno before Strictly?)

That's why the make the contentious comments they do, why Craig plays up to the pantomime villain ( or dame) and Len want to pickle his walnuts. Similarly Darcey can't wait to get a dose of the vapours at a male bear chest ( and neither can Bruno)

A bit of controversy keeps the judges at the forefront of the publics attention , makes them a more important part of the show, all of which helps to keep the gravy train on track.

It's nothing new. Len even tried to get his own back on Chris Hollins being the publics choice by being horrible to him on the Christmas show that year.

It was on the board with the winner at the bottom of it - as well as in their heads.

Rupert's been on Strictly?

Or are you talking about Paddington?

I missed it. Bugger.


Sorry


As you were.

Shame the glitterball wasn't in the hands of the erratic KK then isn't it? Instead it was in the hands of the deserved winners who kept out of EVERY dance off

Not yet used to productive topping on my apple are laptop.

I think you're mistaking me with one of those people who gives a f**k.

You gave enough of one to comment so no mistake here unless you have trouble making up your own mind

The problem isn't abut Kellie receiving full marks, it was because Jay did not.

It seemed to me (and from what they themselves said) that Jay and Aliona approached the final in their own way.
They were happy about all the time they had spent together before the final and their friendship, so they were not trying to be as competitive as they could, but wanted to end their Strictly being themselves (a bit like dancing it in training).

They were OK with however that affected the result - even if it meant they didn't win.

That does seem to sum it up.

The real problem is Jay and Kellie's fans not being able to let it go!

The judges votes mattered not one iota, as Jay had won the series after he danced the jive. He could have fallen on his arse every week since then and would still have won.

Was Jay the best dancer overall? Probably.

Did Kellie outperform him on finals night? Probably

Did Georgia do herself proud and was she the equal of Jay and Kellie? Probably

Was Katie not as good as Jay, Kelie and Georgia? Probably

Was this one of the best ever series of SCD? Probably

Will we all be back next year with the same moans, groas and bitching? Probably

But I might be wrong!!!

Will we all have a fantastic Christmas? Definitely and I hope so.