ageist article...several mentions about his age and how tired he looks





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...s-special.html


Is it me or is he laying the grounds for the 'I quit because I wanted to" excuse after they let him go when Moffat leaves,

To be replaced by a younger sexier female doctor no doubt.

Knowing Capaldi, he'd probably jump off a building if the script required it. I think he feels the physical exhaustion is worth it. :P

"If you want exclusively young, sexy guys, to me that's not Doctor Who" Definitely agree with him on that one, I guess the article's writer doesn't think so though.

yup.....

As I mentioned in another thread it will probably be a very long time (If ever) till there is another older male doc,

The ageism towards PC from the press itself, is appaling.

and if going down the PC route a one legged lesbian to finish off with.

sounds very much like it.

Seeing how both DT and MS almost stunned everyone when they said they were leaving.

IMHO its not only been ageism from sections of social media. A lot of the writers simply haven't known how to write for someone like PC. His acting ability has never been in Question for me, Its been the direction they took his character and some of those OTT storylines that were even pushing it for Sci-fi.

Hope with some new writers they can at least give him one full series that gets the very best PC can offer and not have to worry about getting Airtime over Clara. Or Missy or whoever the power female that week is

No, it's just the standard press comments that Doctor Who actors say. They generally never say "I will be here for years and years" and they never say "I'm doing one more series then I'm quitting"

Apart from anything else Peter doesn't know at this stage how S10 will go and who will run S11, he might love the person, he might hate the person, the new showrunner might love Peter or want someone new, it's too far in the future to know at this stage.

Is Moffat leaving? I've heard no announcements about that yet I've heard a few people make statements on here as if him leaving was a matter of public knowledge.

Capaldi's interviews are all over the place. One minute he wants to do 20 episodes a year, next he wants to do other things. So I bet most of these are just creative interviewers constructing their own story about what might happen. I suspect Capaldi would love to be the Doctor forever but knows that 3 series is the norm. He must be aware that ratings have dropped this year though and perhaps that's started to play into his thoughts about the future.

I do wonder whether Peter's coming to the conclusion that perhaps his Doctor hasn't been as successful as others and it might be best for him and the show not to stay much longer.

I feel there are issues around the popularity of the 12th Doctor. I don't personally think that's an age thing, just the way this particular incarnation has been written and the gloomier tone the show has taken since he became the Doctor.

But on the flip-side his Doctor is critically acclaimed and he seems to get an amazing welcome whenever he attends Who conferences etc.

I guess it would just be interesting to know what messages people (like Peter) who are inside the Doctor Who bubble are getting from the outside the bubble. Would the 1m+ drop in viewing figures be relayed to him as being significant? Is the lack of an NTA nomination considered important (it seems important when they win)?

It's just you.

I didn't get that vibe at all.

The norm? DT/MS were both offered a 4th series(DT with a new showrunner), ao thats the norm in nuwho

We don't know what the norm is. Negotiations happen behind closed doors. Statements made in press releases and interviews will always suggest the actor was asked to stay.

Besides, weren't you the person who started a thread complaining about speculation over Capaldi's departure? Now you've started another thread of speculation over Capaldi's departure.

As I explained in the previous thread, actors dangling the possibility of a departure is commonplace in Doctor Who. Indeed, much of the promotion - including the trailer for Hell Bent - explicitly teases an impending regeneration.

I don't think there has ever been a 'norm' for Doctor Who.

In classic Who, each Doctor tended to do 3-4 years (apart from Tom Baker) although the number of episodes filmed during each 3-4 period was different from Doctor to Doctor. But I always had the impression it was entirely down to the actor when they left. Although possibly not for Hartnell, Colin Baker and McCoy.

In NuWho, David and Matt both essentially did the same - three seasons and then some specials. So I guess that's set the tone but Peter could do one more season or four more.

I don't think there's anything significant in this interview. Sadly, every single actor who plays the doctor is asked when he'll be leaving, almost as soon as he has taken up the role - it goes with the territory. I guess Peter Capaldi needs to find different ways to answer the question each time it comes up, and it varies from a) I love this role and I could play it forever, to b) This could be my last year, nothing lasts forever. The reality is that the decision will be a collaborative one between Capaldi and the BBC. If he desperately wants to go, the BBC won't stop him. If the BBC are keen to offload him, Capaldi won't fight it. Equally, if Capaldi is enjoying it, still has the energy and desire to make more Who, and the BBC value him and want him to stay, then stay he will.

As for how his Doctor is / will be perceived, I strongly feel that the Twelfth Doctor will be more popular retrospectively, as Pat Troughton's doctor was (ratings fell significantly during Troughton's era, leading to big changes in the Pertwee era). That's not to say that people don't like him now - I certainly do - but I think we'll all appreciate Capaldi more when he's gone.

That might have been how it looks with official ratings, but how do you know if many more people have just switchedto iplayer?
I know iplayer ratings are a little harder to monitor but if you put the lot together I bet the majority of episodes remain at a comparible level to previous series.

Not even close. The 1.5 million viewers who have stopped watching on TV have not migrated to iPlayer.

Definitely not. Hartnell left due to ill health, Baker was sacked, and McCoy (and McGann, whose pilot never went to series) got cancelled. Though I think McCoy was only going to stay one more season anyway. Ace would've left halfway through series 27 and the Doctor would have regenerated at the end. That's when their contracts were due to expire.

Just as a matter of semantics, Colin Baker was not sacked. The BBC declined the option to renew his contract. Sacking is only possible if a contract is still unfulfilled and misconduct has occurred.

Thanks for clearing that up!

What is a matter of public knowledge is that The Husbands of River Song was, when he was writing it, set to be Steven Moffat's last episode. He has also said that he is "actively engaged" in the appointment of a successor, a process which is a "big problem, but there will be a solution."

Source: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...ing-doctor-who

He also says that he's taking it one year at a time. If the right successor doesn't turn up, he could feasibly end up doing S11, S12, you name it, it's not like he's halfway out the door or anything, but he's certainly beginning the process of stepping down.

In the 50th anniversary drama, they showed Hartnell asking to continue with fewer scenes/lines but the BBC saying they had already cast his replacement. I don't know how accurate that scene was but it did clearly show it wasn't Hartnell's wish or intention to leave.

True, but in fairness, nearly all TV shows have seen comparable drops in viewing figures; some - notably the soaps - have seen bigger losses of viewers in the past couple of years.

It's important to realise that this drop in viewers is by no means a problem that only affects Doctor Who.

Whilst it will be concerning to the big chiefs at the BBC, they will be far more concerned by the general drop off of viewers across the whole range of programmes and it's very unlikely that Doctor Who will be singled out - especially considering how the show performs across the world and the resulting revenue it generates for the BBC.

So even if its loosing viewers as its not a Who problem specifically Who wont get canceled! I can imagine the overseas sales are good they always have been really even in the classics era, thats how we recovered so many episodes the BBC had dumped!

TV Shows in general have gone down with how people can stream shows. You don't need Iplayer to watch shows anymore, so naturally figures will drop.

But a change is needed, and that is a new showrunner, that is why the show has lasted as long as it did. As it never gets monotonous, or a dip in quality due to lack of ideas or whatever the reasons.

I looked up Capaldi's first Who episode on Wikipedia, The Fires of Pompeii. Under broadcast it says: Overnight figures estimated the episode was watched by 8.1 million viewers, with a peak of 8.5 million viewers. The consolidated figure was 9.04 million. The episode was the second most watched programme on 12 April; Britain's Got Talent was viewed by 9.44 million people. The episode was the tenth most-watched programme of the week and received an Appreciation Index score of 87 (considered Excellent).

Season 4's lowest viewing figure was for Silence in the Library which had a final of 6.27m. So in the those days there was a range of about three million between the most and least watched episode of each season.

Viewing figures now are a little more stable but then I guess we don't have the available range for them to be as varied. The final viewing figure for season 9's most watched episode isn't far off the final figure for season 4's least watched.