It still baffles me why people are talking about Capaldi's successor when we know we have at least one more season/year with him in the role and hopefully much more beyond that. Until it is announced that Peter is leaving then I'm not really interested in who might or might not be the next Doctor. Crikey you could be talking about 2 or34 years in the future. It's a bit like the obsession Bond fans have over who is going to succeed Daniel Craig when the latest Bond movie is till doing well in the cinema and most people know he was signed up for a fifth film despite his recent negative comments.
Capaldi: "I want to do other things"
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Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“He is quite Doctorish on DaVinci's Demons and pretty wasted in Robot Of Sherwood to be honest.”
“He is quite Doctorish on DaVinci's Demons and pretty wasted in Robot Of Sherwood to be honest.”
Yup. Based upon his work in DaVinci's Demons I think he'd be a brilliant Doctor.
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“Crikey you could be talking about 2 or34 years in the future.”
“Crikey you could be talking about 2 or34 years in the future.”
Till 2050!?
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;
2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;
3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?
I bet the viewing figures are way higher than those extrapolated from a few set-top boxes in middle class suburbia.”
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;
2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;
3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?
I bet the viewing figures are way higher than those extrapolated from a few set-top boxes in middle class suburbia.”
And let's not forget all the cats that watch the show
Sorry, I don't mean to be mean and that was just a joke. Viewing figures are what they are and it just sounds a bit desperate when I see justifications like yours for the lower figures. But look on the bright side, the show did okay over Christmas so it's not all doom and gloom (obviously more cats watching over Christmas 
)
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;
2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;
3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?
I bet the viewing figures are way higher than those extrapolated from a few set-top boxes in middle class suburbia.”
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;
2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;
3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?
I bet the viewing figures are way higher than those extrapolated from a few set-top boxes in middle class suburbia.”
Well the viewing figures take in to account 5,100 households, so it has never been all that comprehensive
Spoiler
I really hope we get more than three seasons out of Capaldi. He is really in his stride now. I thought 'The Husbands of River Song' was his best performance to date.
Fans need to start telling him how much they love him in the role.
Fans need to start telling him how much they love him in the role.
David Tennant and Matt Smith both did other things while they were the Doctor, it didn't mean they were leaving or weren't as dedicated to the show (which is after all just another acting job, as much as some fas might think it should be their lives). There's no reason Peter Capaldi saying he wants to do other things should mean any more than that.
Imo, PC is the best Doctor we've had. His acting can never be faulted, he makes even dire stories and iffy scripting watchable, and I for one don't notice his age until someone else points it out (and he isn't actually that old, he's only in his 50s). He does need better stories though, preferably ones where the Doctor is the main character and not his companion.
Imo, PC is the best Doctor we've had. His acting can never be faulted, he makes even dire stories and iffy scripting watchable, and I for one don't notice his age until someone else points it out (and he isn't actually that old, he's only in his 50s). He does need better stories though, preferably ones where the Doctor is the main character and not his companion.
Nothing to do with him or age or anything just the nature of the beast, soon as someone established and good then the hunt for the next starts
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;”
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;”
Yes, and have been for decades.
Quote:
“2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;”
“2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;”
Yes since 2013.
Quote:
“3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?”
“3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?”
Only licence fee payers count cos that's who the BBC is for. It's like voting -- all expats lose the vote in this country after 15 years away.
Capaldi is an amazing Doctor I love having young Doctors but that would make it too boring for me I don't want Tennant clones I want something new.
I don't get why people are 'shocked' when a Doctor leaves. 3 years is just about perfect, and is most likely what Peter was aiming for, and maybe even contracted for (wasn't Matt contracted for 3 years? Then he had to re-sign for the 50th? It's how he was allowed to shave his head because technically he was out of contract at that time).
Peter IS a brilliant Doctor! I just wish the material he's been given had been more consistent.
Peter IS a brilliant Doctor! I just wish the material he's been given had been more consistent.
Three years is a good run but I think there were people that Capaldi might have done a little more. He still might. It has yet to be confirmed whether or not he'll go beyond Series 10 at the moment.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Well the viewing figures take in to account 5,100 households, so it has never been all that comprehensive
”
“Well the viewing figures take in to account 5,100 households, so it has never been all that comprehensive
Spoiler
Well, it's the only economically viable system of measurement. Anything larger would cost a fortune to run.
One vital aspect is that household members are required to log-in on the BARB remote. So, on a representative sample of 5,100 households / 11,500 people, the measurement of specific groups is taken in account.
Even if we eventually reach a point where every TV in the land is connected to the Internet, the totals would only show the total number of screens connected to iPlayer. A sample group would still be needed to show what type of people are watching the programmes.
Bear in mind that the margin of error is very low on a sample of 11,500. Just like it's very low on political opinion polls. (The election polls only seemed more inaccurate than the actual margin of error because our archaic "first past the post" system throws up anomalies. If we had the superior proportional representation system, the actual votes cast were very close to the polls.)
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;
2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;
3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?
I bet the viewing figures are way higher than those extrapolated from a few set-top boxes in middle class suburbia.”
“Have these famous "viewing figures" ever taken into account:
1) the number of viewers who record the show to watch it later when more convenient;
2) the number of viewers ditto who go straight to iPlayer for the recorded view;
3) the millions of people who get BBC on cable overseas and who can watch it live, like me - or do expats and foreign Dr Who fanatics not count?
I bet the viewing figures are way higher than those extrapolated from a few set-top boxes in middle class suburbia.”
I like how you put "viewing figures" in inverted commas, to make them seem less credible. As if the basis of most recommissioning decisions and advertising sales on commercial channels is somehow based on a myth.
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“Well, it's the only economically viable system of measurement. Anything larger would cost a fortune to run.”
“Well, it's the only economically viable system of measurement. Anything larger would cost a fortune to run.”
Hence the
and the tagged addendum.
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“It still baffles me why people are talking about Capaldi's successor when we know we have at least one more season/year with him in the role and hopefully much more beyond that. Until it is announced that Peter is leaving then I'm not really interested in who might or might not be the next Doctor. Crikey you could be talking about 2 or34 years in the future. It's a bit like the obsession Bond fans have over who is going to succeed Daniel Craig when the latest Bond movie is till doing well in the cinema and most people know he was signed up for a fifth film despite his recent negative comments.”
“It still baffles me why people are talking about Capaldi's successor when we know we have at least one more season/year with him in the role and hopefully much more beyond that. Until it is announced that Peter is leaving then I'm not really interested in who might or might not be the next Doctor. Crikey you could be talking about 2 or34 years in the future. It's a bit like the obsession Bond fans have over who is going to succeed Daniel Craig when the latest Bond movie is till doing well in the cinema and most people know he was signed up for a fifth film despite his recent negative comments.”
It's called light at the end of the tunnel. We can just about get through one more series as long as we get someone else as the Doctor afterwards.
Originally Posted by ChynaS:
“It's called light at the end of the tunnel. We can just about get through one more series as long as we get someone else as the Doctor afterwards.”
“It's called light at the end of the tunnel. We can just about get through one more series as long as we get someone else as the Doctor afterwards.”
Anyone is better than Capaldi, then? Well, we will see....
Personally, when it was revealed, after one episode!, that Eccleston was off, I thought "Oh dear." Then enjoyed David and when he made his live announcement, I thought "Aw. Four series would've been okay. Ah well..." Then adored Matt and was keeping everything crossed that he'd do a fourth. That didn't work.
Now we've definately got a third series of Sir Peter C and particularly after Series 9, he can stay as long as he flipping well likes.....
The odds are increasing. Surely I will actively *dislike* someone in the role at some point? Hope so. My posts might be less blandly positive.
Ps Happy new year, Who fans. (special wave to salad, who I suspect has been, Dalek impression, Alert! Alert! -ed out of the forum? Shame.)
Originally Posted by lanners:
“To be replaced by a younger sexier female doctor no doubt.”
“To be replaced by a younger sexier female doctor no doubt.”
And ruining the series. Im sick of youngsters getting all these roles thinking they are IT. As much as I enjoy Tennant & Smith they wernt the doctor. It should always be a older MALE cast.
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“And ruining the series. Im sick of youngsters getting all these roles thinking they are IT. As much as I enjoy Tennant & Smith they wernt the doctor. It should always be a older MALE cast.”
“And ruining the series. Im sick of youngsters getting all these roles thinking they are IT. As much as I enjoy Tennant & Smith they wernt the doctor. It should always be a older MALE cast.”
They can be young but as long as they aren't young every time. I mean Matt Smith i felt at least fit the role of the Doctor, while David Tennant didn't really, that just comes down to the writing.
Originally Posted by Sam_Gee1:
“They can be young but as long as they aren't young every time. I mean Matt Smith i felt at least fit the role of the Doctor, while David Tennant didn't really, that just comes down to the writing.”
“They can be young but as long as they aren't young every time. I mean Matt Smith i felt at least fit the role of the Doctor, while David Tennant didn't really, that just comes down to the writing.”
David Tennant is a great actor and he could have been a good Doctor had he actually been written like him, but instead he was portrayed as a not-so-alien Gary Stu character who fell in love with almost every human girl he met, either being far too silly and jumping around the place shouting incoherently, or being far too miserable.
Originally Posted by Lord Smexy:
“David Tennant is a great actor and he could have been a good Doctor had he actually been written like him, but instead he was portrayed as a not-so-alien Gary Stu character who fell in love with almost every human girl he met, either being far too silly and jumping around the place shouting incoherently, or being far too miserable.”
“David Tennant is a great actor and he could have been a good Doctor had he actually been written like him, but instead he was portrayed as a not-so-alien Gary Stu character who fell in love with almost every human girl he met, either being far too silly and jumping around the place shouting incoherently, or being far too miserable.”
Matt Smith was awesome he sometimes felt really old even though he was young and the childish persona he put on felt like a cover, David Tennant was really human but maybe that was done on purpose because of Rose thats what I like to think. But Nine was amazing even though he sounded like a normal bloke he felt so alien the way he isolated himself and basically hated anything human :P
Originally Posted by Brandon_Smith:
“Matt Smith was awesome he sometimes felt really old even though he was young and the childish persona he put on felt like a cover, David Tennant was really human but maybe that was done on purpose because of Rose thats what I like to think. But Nine was amazing even though he sounded like a normal bloke he felt so alien the way he isolated himself and basically hated anything human :P”
“Matt Smith was awesome he sometimes felt really old even though he was young and the childish persona he put on felt like a cover, David Tennant was really human but maybe that was done on purpose because of Rose thats what I like to think. But Nine was amazing even though he sounded like a normal bloke he felt so alien the way he isolated himself and basically hated anything human :P”
9 was a great fit for the Doctor, too bad he didn't like the role
Originally Posted by donovan5:
“Yes Tennant one of the most popular Doctors of a ll time was clearly unsuited for the role”
“Yes Tennant one of the most popular Doctors of a ll time was clearly unsuited for the role
”
For the casual viewer he is fine, for people who have more than a casual interest he isn't really The Doctor. He was basically a human, but that isn't Tennant's fault, just the writing because they gave him no alien stuff to do.
Originally Posted by performingmonk:
“I don't get why people are 'shocked' when a Doctor leaves. 3 years is just about perfect, and is most likely what Peter was aiming for, and maybe even contracted for (wasn't Matt contracted for 3 years? Then he had to re-sign for the 50th? It's how he was allowed to shave his head because technically he was out of contract at that time).
Peter IS a brilliant Doctor! I just wish the material he's been given had been more consistent.”
“I don't get why people are 'shocked' when a Doctor leaves. 3 years is just about perfect, and is most likely what Peter was aiming for, and maybe even contracted for (wasn't Matt contracted for 3 years? Then he had to re-sign for the 50th? It's how he was allowed to shave his head because technically he was out of contract at that time).
Peter IS a brilliant Doctor! I just wish the material he's been given had been more consistent.”
Yes I must admit I would be astonished if Peter didn't want to do anything else in his acting career. It isn't much of a story.
Peter is a great Doctor and for me at least, the character match up with Jenna Coleman was the perfect Doctor/companion combination. If there is a problem its that the modern audience are not used to an older man in the main role, there isn't the almost rock star fan worship that surrounded Tennant for instance. Its unfortunate that some maybe are looking to criticise him because he isn't Tennant, or more broadly, 20 years younger.
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