I shall say zis only once: IT'S NOT TRUE.

However, Anton IS Giovanni's Padrino

The familial trait of sweating when they get hot is uncanny

Exactly the same applies to all the insults Jay gets then

I see no problem with that at all.

I do think DWTS takes the mick a bit having Derek's sister as a judge.

I took it as one defending them, well at least clearing up the rumour which has no standing.

Yeah, it's a bit much. Give the bloke a break, he might be a bit confident for the British public's taste but he hasn't done anyone any harm.

I can't believe some people still think this is true. Kevin himself even took the piss out of the whole thing. There are some days when I wonder how the tabloids get away with the crap they print and how anyone ever believes it, and then you see people running away with stories this and it's like oh...that's how.

Most of the pros on Strictly and DWTS have known Len for a long time, being judged by him as kids etc. If no-one with ties to any pros could judge, there wouldn't be any ballroom judges, as most pros competed for a long time, being judged by many people

How come neither Kevin nor Len have come out and denied it? I have no problem with sisters brothers wives being on the safe show but the judges shouldn't have a personal connection

Kevin denied it on Twitter as was reported on one of the many other hate Kevin threads on this board.

Perhaps the news of Syria, the EU, what an idiot is Jeremy Corbyn and Frank Lampard's wedding should give way to a national announcement in the papers that Len is not Kevin's godfather. Just a thought.

It's not true!

I despair.

Somebody stupidly starts a rumour which gets accepted as fact.
Fudd starts this thread to reiterate that it is NOT true.

And people keep saying "but if it Is true...."

What did this thread or my post have to do with Jay?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06r3wgd

Chris Evans show from last week, at 1 hour 41 minutes (approx) he comments on "people telling me I'm Len's Godson"

Most compelling evidence for Len not being anyone's Godson (I.e. Dedicated from baptism onwards to the child's Christian welfare)

Len is Jewish, or of Jewish extraction, isn't he?

Kevin has. And seriously, he might just have other things to do than look through strictly and dance forums for rumours started about him and deny them? Some fan tweeted him about it, that's the only reason he even knew about the stupid rumour

I view it as an IQ test - anyone who still believes this ridiculous rumour is demonstrating how foolish and easily led they are.

It's an illustration that it's not only Kevin who gets abuse on here.

About as being as easily led as thinking those 80 marks weren't contrived

Oh for goodness' sake...

Some people just don't understand how entertainment shows work. It's been obvious to anyone with half a brain for ages that Jay was going to walk this. They kept saying "anyone can win it" but that obviously wasn't true. You only had to look at the bookies' odds to see that.

Kellie and Kevin did do great performances, and their show dance at least deserved a 40. In addition that that - the producers knew that Jay would win, so the others also got their winning moments - Kellie getting recognition for her skill and hard work in terms of good scores, and Georgia being told that Craig would want to employ her. Both were deserved - but they were mentioned publicly (and possibly the tango score slightly inflated) so that supporters of those pairs could still feel happy for them when Jay won.

Judges' scores in the final don't go towards the results. If anything, a lower score is better, as it makes supporters more likely to pick up the phone and vote. If Jay didn't already have it in the bag - him getting a 39 when Kellie had got 40 would probably have been enough to swing it for him.

I've been a 'judge' in an entertainment competition (one where it didn't really matter who won, the main intention was to entertain the audience - much like the Strictly tour format). I was told that part of my job was to criticise the performers if they messed up, so that the audience would be mad at me for being 'mean' to the performers rather than mad at the performers for not doing well. As has been said before, a lot of Strictly is just panto.

It's like being Alice in Wonderland "I'm not strange, weird, off, nor crazy, my reality is just different from yours."

Good point. I'd not thought of that before but it makes a lot of sense. I wish Katie had been offered something too but that's another story.

Agree with you that higher scores means more voting for those scored lower.

That isn't an obstacle for the Jay loons

Whatever you do don't watch dwts then as a sister judges her brother on that show (Julianne and Derek) and they have another pro's brother guest judge (Val and Maks) and the two female judges used to date some of the pros (Artem & Carrie Ann, Artem & Julianne and Mark and Julianne and those are the relationship that are known about some other have been rumoured about)

I have an issue when they are allowed to scream "10, 10,10,10" from front and centre of the Clauditorium for that tango.

But that wasn't karen and Joanne. They weren't even shown on screen when other pros were chanting the 10s. It seems like Kevin and Kellie were really liked among all the pros.