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What dances should be done in the final
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JaysMum
22-12-2015
Both the showdance and the judges choice should be scrapped
It should be: Favourite Ballroom
Favourite Latin
Viewer's Choice

If it is left down to the judges to choose the dances, it will result in bias
Mystical123
23-12-2015
Public vote is unpredictable and open to manipulation as well.

Simplest would be to go back to the Kara Tointon/Matt Baker final - new dance, showdance and favourite dance.

Or better still, go right back to what I think was the best Strictly final there's been - series 5 (Alesha Dixon and Matt DiAngelo) - favourite ballroom, favourite Latin, both couples dancing different dances to the same piece of music and ending with the showdance.

Either way, the final should only be two couples, or at most three with one being knocked out halfway through.
Polly-T
23-12-2015
There should be one Latin, one Ballroom and a show dance.

This years final was not balanced with 2 Charlestons and a Lindyhop as 3 of the 4 last dances.

Kellie did not have to perform a ballroom at all in the final

Having to perform one each of ballroom and latin shows a broader range of dance skill by a contestant IMO
StigOfTheKrump
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Kellie did not have to perform a ballroom at all in the final”

Apart from the Tango that she performed in the final.
LaughingSock
23-12-2015
I vote NO Charlestons. Or anything that looks like a badly done Charleston (looking at you, Lindy Hop).

Something tells me this year's finale has finally broken me. No more Charlestons, ever. Please. I beg you. *rocks back and forth and takes her pills*
aggs
23-12-2015
No dance done first in week one or week 2 and no dance that had any of the judges in a snit about content or choreography.
No repechage of dances that neither the celeb/judges nor audience enjoyed the first time round.
BMLisa
23-12-2015
No judges choice
No dance that was slated for choreography
Agree with Aggs about week 1 and 2
No Showdance. They're almost universally awful.

Alternatives for me:
Favourite Ballroom and Latin (I hate that some can do the final with no ballroom)

And one of:
Fusion dance
Same piece of music for each couple with different choreography
Argentine Tango
Most viewed dance on YouTube (instead of public vote)

Any of the above would be infinitely better than judges choice and Showdance
Cadiva
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Public vote is unpredictable and open to manipulation as well.

Simplest would be to go back to the Kara Tointon/Matt Baker final - new dance, showdance and favourite dance.

Or better still, go right back to what I think was the best Strictly final there's been - series 5 (Alesha Dixon and Matt DiAngelo) - favourite ballroom, favourite Latin, both couples dancing different dances to the same piece of music and ending with the showdance.

Either way, the final should only be two couples, or at most three with one being knocked out halfway through.”

BIB gets my vote. I absolutely loved them dancing two different dance styles to the same piece of music.
fatskia
23-12-2015
Couple get to choose their favourite dance.

Then the judges choose the best dance from Ballroom or Latin - different to whichever of those categories the couple's choice falls into.

And a Showdance.

Couples only seem to be able to learn one dance per week well.

No repeats of dances from Semi or Quarter Finals.
gingercodgers
23-12-2015
I don't really think it matters. I always get the feeling that people have decided who they are going to vote for before they all set foot on the dancefloor.
hannah
23-12-2015
Its should be down to the couples and public I would want the following
1. Favourite Ballroom
2. Favourite Latin
3. Public Choice

Probably only me but I would love that any dance can be redone in the final including semi and quarter final
fatskia
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Apart from the Tango that she performed in the final.”

Though having difficulty recognising it is understandable?
erin_p
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Apart from the Tango that she performed in the final.”

I thought Tango was a Latin dance
alan_tracy
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“...Simplest would be to go back to the Kara Tointon/Matt Baker final - new dance, showdance and favourite dance.

Or better still, go right back to what I think was the best Strictly final there's been - series 5 (Alesha Dixon and Matt DiAngelo) - favourite ballroom, favourite Latin, both couples dancing different dances to the same piece of music and ending with the showdance....”

Not to say that wouldn't be a better option. However, the fact is four dances are exhausting. Two new ones likewise difficult to learn, is it really a good idea to replace one great new dance with two middling ones? Plus of course, there are more promo duties loaded on year by year. That's a distraction and time they're not training.

So what to do? Basically the judges are going to get it in the neck whatever they choose. So judges choice is a non starter. Showdances are made a lot of with "no rules" but that's nonsense, nobody ever does anything but variants on standard dances. Last ones that didn't were Erin and Colin. That went well didn't it? Basically you are not going to get original thought worth showing in the final in a week when there are two others to train for too.

Anything new is not going to get the attention that would make it final quality. So I would prefer something like audience vote choice, couples ballroom and Latin choices. No show dances, no new dance. Oh and no judges scores. Comments if they must, but scores just leave more bad feeling.
Cadiva
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“I thought Tango was a Latin dance ”

No Tango is one of the five Ballroom disciplines - Foxtrot, Waltz, Viennese Waltz, Ballroom Tango and Quickstep. The Latin dances are Samba, Cha Cha Cha, Jive, Paso Doble and Rumba.

Argentine Tango, Salsa and Charleston don't belong to any category and have been added as extras over the years, as has the showdance.
The_Bonobo
24-12-2015
I am not sure what would be the best option but one thing I think would be wise is to forget the judges picking their worst scoring or a dance to show "progress". It just makes for underwhelming performances and probably puts the contestants on edge. Makes no sense in terms of wanting the final to be as entertaining and high quality as possible.
aggs
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by gingercodgers:
“I don't really think it matters. I always get the feeling that people have decided who they are going to vote for before they all set foot on the dancefloor.”

From the point of view of the finishing order - maybe not so much.
From the point of view of having a finale with dances people actually want to see again and just generally leaving the series on a feel good high rather than a tetchy mess - definitely.
JohnStannard
24-12-2015
I would say fave ballroom and latin Part 1
Part 2 after elimination Unlearned dance and showdance
mossy2103
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Either way, the final should only be two couples, or at most three with one being knocked out halfway through.”

The trouble with that approach is that there are major issues should a celeb withdraw late on in the day or is unable to perform in the final (due to injury, illness or personal reasons)
JukeJive
24-12-2015
I'd like them to return to having a new dance in the Final because then the winner will have danced all the dances instead of being able to avoid an unfavourable one, making it more equal. A showdance in the Final is expected for those who only watch the Final, but I also think it shows their best and worst features , even though most are hiding behind a cushion time. Best Ballroom and Best Latin, but their choice and not the judges. They got it all wrong in the Final. 2 quicksteps chosen, Jay and Aliona and Katie and Anton, and poor Georgia saddled with a Rumba, a low impact dance on a high impact night.

I realise it's 4 dances but I found the Final unsatisfactory and definitely not representative of their talents. In Kara and Matt's year it was 4 dances; a new dance, Ballroom and Latin and a Showdance. The same I believe in Alesha and Matt's year. It shouldn't matter about the length of the Final, 4 and 3 couples.

It just didn't feel like a Final, a representative of the whole season.
aggs
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“The trouble with that approach is that there are major issues should a celeb withdraw late on in the day or is unable to perform in the final (due to injury, illness or personal reasons)”

Just have a double elimination at the semi final stage if you need to cut the couples from 5 to 3. Have 3 in the final, eliminate one at half time and remaining 2 dance again. I think that was the format for series 8 and it seemed to work OK.
mossy2103
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Just have a double elimination at the semi final stage if you need to cut the couples from 5 to 3. Have 3 in the final, eliminate one at half time and remaining 2 dance again. I think that was the format for series 8 and it seemed to work OK.”

Yes, that would work.

But a double elimination? Just think of twice the number of xxxxx wuzrobbed threads, double the number of yyyyy should have gone instead of xxxxx, twice the umber of "FIX" threads, all in the space of one day!
erin_p
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“No Tango is one of the five Ballroom disciplines - Foxtrot, Waltz, Viennese Waltz, Ballroom Tango and Quickstep. The Latin dances are Samba, Cha Cha Cha, Jive, Paso Doble and Rumba.

Argentine Tango, Salsa and Charleston don't belong to any category and have been added as extras over the years, as has the showdance.”

I just thought South American then it has to be Latin ... cheers.
Mystical123
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by alan_tracy:
“Not to say that wouldn't be a better option. However, the fact is four dances are exhausting.”

Alesha and Matt managed perfectly well!
ads84
24-12-2015
I do like a 3 person final rather than a 4 person final.
The 3 couples should be whittled to 2 in the second show.
I'd like to see:
Show 1 - favourite ballroom
- favourite latin
- dance to the same music

Show 2 - elimination
- showdance

The judges should take no part in deciding dances.

I'd also like to see the Argentine Tango return to semi-final only to make it more of a spectacle.
They could keep the 15 couples and eliminate 2 at the semi-final stage. I've sometimes thought that there are this many couples because the producers don't want a 2 person final in case of dropouts through injury etc. This way, if there was an injury, they could simply revert to single elimination and still have 3 in the final.
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