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Old 02-04-2016, 15:00
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My hometown is roughly just over halfway between those two locations you named. I'll have to checkout the precise track Storm Katie took in the early hours of Easter Monday.

April begins with a temperature close to freezing at 0.9c currently, and a barometric pressure at 1022mbs, 50mbs above just 4 days ago in the Katie storm, and four or five days before that it was at a similar figure, so a rapid and massive dip and then quick return to high pressure.

9th March was indeed curious and very unusual for being such an astonishingly wet day across most of the UK right in the middle of a decent dry spell immediately before and for a long time after it. Probably the best way to have a decent top up of rain!

Good April's don't always mean poor summers. I give you 1984 to prove my point.
Point accepted. I just don't want to tempt fate, especially considering the fine warm April of 1987, just 3 years later, was also followed by a very ordinary Summer.
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Old 02-04-2016, 15:04
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Indeed, but they were both followed by mediocre Summers. So although I'd like it warm, I'd be prepared to set that wish aside in favour of a warm dry Summer.




I estimated that the centre of Katie passed East North East over England, somewhere between Reading and Rugby, so that puts Bucks right in there. You missed most of the rain though.

9th March was a strange day. Very wet amongst an otherwise very dry spell.
Its been a long time ago since the last warm, near bone dry June to August the UK experienced. And I suspect it will be a long time before the UK experiences another one.
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Old 02-04-2016, 15:21
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Its been a long time ago since the last warm, near bone dry June to August the UK experienced. And I suspect it will be a long time before the UK experiences another one.
Yes, except I wasn't talking about a "bone dry" June to August, Dry and warm doesn't mean unrelenting dryness and no rain. It means predominantly dry, with more dry days than wet ones.

The last near bone dry and consistently very warm/hot June to August, well closest to, was probably 1947, followed by 1959 and 1975 after the first week. All the other notable Summers have been let down at some time. 2006 was let down by August, and 1995 was let down by June.

The most recent prolonged hot spell, July 2013, was confined mainly to July. Although June and August weren't bad, they weren't in July's class.
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Old 02-04-2016, 20:25
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This coming summer is the 200th anniversary of a very famous "summer" in 1816.

That year became known as "The year without a summer", caused in part by the enormous eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia more than a year earlier which led to a volcanic winter effect, even in Western Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
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Old 02-04-2016, 20:48
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This coming summer is the 200th anniversary of a very famous "summer" in 1816.

That year became known as "The year without a summer", caused in part by the enormous eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia more than a year earlier which led to a volcanic winter effect, even in Western Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
Indeed, I give you the CET's for that Summer:-

June 12.8
July 13.4
August 13.9

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Old 03-04-2016, 19:27
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Looks like thunderstorms breaking out over South East England - notably West Kent, East Sussex area, and moving North Westwards.
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Old 03-04-2016, 19:31
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we've had thunder and lightning in central london about 10 minutes ago....
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Old 03-04-2016, 23:35
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Looks like thunderstorms breaking out over South East England - notably West Kent, East Sussex area, and moving North Westwards.
There was one in south Hants just north of the IoW, just before 6:30pm-ish. Intense!
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:50
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Looks like thunderstorms breaking out over South East England - notably West Kent, East Sussex area, and moving North Westwards.
I had high hopes for a decent storm tonight and probably a fair splash of rain, but neither materialised at mine. A single 1mm of rain, and a flash and rumble in the distance was the sum of it, despite the rain radar and even the lightning radar looking quite lively at one point in the south and east during Sunday evening.

Now it is one of the mildest nights for many weeks, since 21st February infact, currently a low of 8.8c.
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:47
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I had high hopes for a decent storm tonight and probably a fair splash of rain, but neither materialised at mine. A single 1mm of rain, and a flash and rumble in the distance was the sum of it, despite the rain radar and even the lightning radar looking quite lively at one point in the south and east during Sunday evening.

Now it is one of the mildest nights for many weeks, since 21st February infact, currently a low of 8.8c.
Yep, disappointing. Not much here either.
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Old 06-04-2016, 01:11
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It is going to anow here on Saturday.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:43
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outlooks wet...

mean upper trough to take up residence to our near southwest. showers or longer spells of rain, we will never be far from the next dose over the next 2 weeks. but it will become warmer by next tuesday.
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Old 06-04-2016, 14:48
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This morning I noticed that the coping stones on a dwarf wall have a slight rusty coloured stain which I have not seen before. Saharan dust brought down by the rain perhaps? Anyone else noticed similar?
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Old 06-04-2016, 15:20
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This morning I noticed that the coping stones on a dwarf wall have a slight rusty coloured stain which I have not seen before. Saharan dust brought down by the rain perhaps? Anyone else noticed similar?
yes there was saharan dust for the extreme southeast.

it occurs quite frequently, about 1/3 years, maybe more.

i remember in may 1970 the air was thick with it, the sun was red (in daytime).
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Old 07-04-2016, 19:07
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yes there was saharan dust for the extreme southeast.

it occurs quite frequently, about 1/3 years, maybe more.

i remember in may 1970 the air was thick with it, the sun was red (in daytime).
One of the most notable dust falls was in early July 1968, in concert with some exceptionally severe thunderstorms, following a short heatwave.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:25
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Big waves in Exmouth this morning. http://www.exmouthcam.co.uk/webcam/
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:49
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It is going to snow here on Saturday.
How many inches did you (not) get?
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Old 14-04-2016, 18:42
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Earlier today I checked out the weather on the Met Office's site and was a bit surprised to see an amber warning of rain for a vast swathe of the middle of England, especially as there was nothing but a few light showers in the whole area, but it was proved correct at my location in North Bucks which has had a direct hit from a thunderstorm between 4pm and 5pm this afternoon. We often miss in this area!

A strike rate of approximately 10 to 12 per minute, and torrential rain dumping 10mm in about 15 minutes or so. The temperature fell from 15c to 9c quite rapidly.
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Old 14-04-2016, 19:36
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Last Sunday I came outside to find my car frozen to the point I couldn't actually get into it! It was almost as if overnight my car had been placed in a freezer - there was a considerable build up of ice on the back and front windows of the car. I was able to partially open one of the passenger doors slightly, but didn't want to force it as I didn't want to damage the door seals. At one point I set off the alarm, which at 5am on a Sunday morning is not good.

Using hot water, I was eventually able to get into the car after allowing about an hour for the water to work through the doors as my de-icer was in the car boot which was also frozen solid. Strangely, it didn't seem particularly cold outside, but I was surprised to find myself in this position in early April.
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Old 15-04-2016, 09:34
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It is said that we are stuck in a polar vortex driving cooler temperatures much further south than normal around the northern hemisphere, the same in happening in the southern hemisphere. Check out the overhead view in this French site.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse...para=0&carte=1

I do hope this is not true though https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/.../mini-ice-age/

and thishttps://www.aer.com/science-research...ic-oscillation
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Old 15-04-2016, 18:41
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Right now it's snowing here in south of Scotland, not bad for 15th April 2016, but we have to beat 2nd June 1975 for a rather late fall.
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Old 15-04-2016, 18:45
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Right now it's snowing here in south of Scotland, not bad for 15th April 2016, but we have to beat 2nd June 1975 for a rather late fall.
Snow is really not rare in April.

Scarce in May

Exceedingly rare in June

^^^^^^^^^

Speaking for the Midlands and South of England.
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Old 15-04-2016, 18:50
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It is said that we are stuck in a polar vortex driving cooler temperatures much further south than normal around the northern hemisphere, the same in happening in the southern hemisphere. Check out the overhead view in this French site.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse...para=0&carte=1
I don't know about what "is said", but there's only one Polar Vortex in the northern hemisphere, and it's a permanent feature. What we are seeing is an outcrop or elongation of the polar vortex in our direction, thus dragging cooler air further south than normal on our side of the pole.

These things are not uncommon and can go on for a while, but it will eventually shift east/west or contract back towards the north, allowing more seasonal air temperatures to reach us for more then the odd couple of days. The sooner the better!
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Old 16-04-2016, 00:49
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Never seems to effect London why, Force Field
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Old 16-04-2016, 10:23
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I don't know about what "is said", but there's only one Polar Vortex in the northern hemisphere, and it's a permanent feature. What we are seeing is an outcrop or elongation of the polar vortex in our direction, thus dragging cooler air further south than normal on our side of the pole.

These things are not uncommon and can go on for a while, but it will eventually shift east/west or contract back towards the north, allowing more seasonal air temperatures to reach us for more then the odd couple of days. The sooner the better!
That colder than normal atlantic ocean to the west seems to be driving this colder air towards us.

Has the north atlantic drift permanently lost its warm salty water?
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