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#351 |
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Shower of soft hail or "graupel" here recently.
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#352 |
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after a fairly pleasant week coming up, its looking likely that winter might return next weekend with another potent arctic blast which looks longer then todays blip.
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#353 |
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Right now it's snowing here in south of Scotland, not bad for 15th April 2016, but we have to beat 2nd June 1975 for a rather late fall.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/m/n/May1955.pdf |
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#354 |
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Check this out then - widespread snowfalls and coverage across England in mid May in 1955.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/m/n/May1955.pdf So whatever happens this month and next, it will have no bearing on the summer weather to follow, which could be anything. |
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#355 |
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I knew it would be wet where I live this morning because the BBC weather forecast said it would be dry.
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#356 |
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Yes, cold May with snow, cool June but then... July, August and September were mainly dry, sunny and warm or hot (albeit with the odd spell of thunderstorms).
So whatever happens this month and next, it will have no bearing on the summer weather to follow, which could be anything. I'll post a prediction, but not until I've consulted Jeremy Corbyn's brother first! The temperature is bang on 0.0c as I write very early this Sunday morning. I had thought it might even get colder than that. I've recorded 36mm of rain halfway through April but the coming week looks dry in my area. |
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#357 |
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Do you, or anyone else, fancy giving a prediction on what you think the summer of 2016 is going to be like?
I'll post a prediction, but not until I've consulted Jeremy Corbyn's brother first! The temperature is bang on 0.0c as I write very early this Sunday morning. I had thought it might even get colder than that. I've recorded 36mm of rain halfway through April but the coming week looks dry in my area. ![]() If I was to take a guess based on not very much in particular, I'd say this Summer will be more a more thundery one than for some time past. Probably wet at times, humid and warm, but not exceptionally hot - although that doesn't preclude some hot days. All guesswork and you might just as well consult the Daily Express ![]() Summer meaning June to August, of course. |
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#358 |
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if the experts cant predict what this summer will be like with any degree of certainty.... im sure amateurs cant! lol
meanwhile - dont be fooled by this weeks increasingly pleasant weather... WINTER RETURNS next weekend with a lengthy period of very cold northerlies - and there will be snow somewhere (ok northern high ground most likely). |
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if the experts cant predict what this summer will be like with any degree of certainty.... im sure amateurs cant! lol
meanwhile - dont be fooled by this weeks increasingly pleasant weather... WINTER RETURNS next weekend with a lengthy period of very cold northerlies - and there will be snow somewhere (ok northern high ground most likely). Meanwhile it's a glorious day here in Essex with gin clear blue sky and a powerful Sun, albeit with chilly air. Probably the same over a huge swathe of England and Wales right now. As you say this week looks likely to be dry with high pressure sitting on top of us, but it might not be clear skies all the time. When it is, it will feel very pleasant in the Sun, the strength of which will offset the not terribly high temperatures. |
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#360 |
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Northerlies and North Easterlies are not at all unusual in April, and often well into May as well.
. the anomaly charts (noaa charts) have the upper air flow sourced from north greenland. i think thats the most northerly track ive ever seen them predict. so whats caught my eye, is the length and severity currently expected. i will be delighted if the current expectations are wrong!
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#361 |
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The way the weather pattern is running currently, it suggests to me we could be in for a very long dry summer with high temperatures during the day
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#362 |
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I think it might snow here next weekend which will be interesting just for the location. I've seen snow in Northern Ireland in May so it's not that big of a deal there.
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#363 |
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Northerlies and North Easterlies are not at all unusual in April, and often well into May as well.
Meanwhile it's a glorious day here in Essex with gin clear blue sky and a powerful Sun, albeit with chilly air. Probably the same over a huge swathe of England and Wales right now. As you say this week looks likely to be dry with high pressure sitting on top of us, but it might not be clear skies all the time. When it is, it will feel very pleasant in the Sun, the strength of which will offset the not terribly high temperatures. |
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#364 |
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Shower of soft hail or "graupel" here recently.
The one really cold May that I can clearly remember was not that long ago historically speaking - May 1996, which if I recall correctly from the time was noted as the coldest May across the country since 1941. |
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#365 |
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I have some general links to post in case they are of interest:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/w...4.00&lat=55.01 https://cloudappreciationsociety.org/ http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/health/p...ime=1460862000 http://en.blitzortung.org/live_light...aps.php?map=12 http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ty...HS4jD-cQsAQIIg One of the things to look out for in the summer months is noctilucent clouds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noctilucent_cloud https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=no..._AUIBigB&dpr=1 |
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#366 |
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Michael Fish doing his weekly weather forecast which comes out each Friday on Netweather, by the looks of it from his study at home. Here is this weeks current one;
http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?a...yid=7300;sess= |
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#367 |
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true.... but whats currently expected is deep sourced cold polar air, and more then just a 48 hour blast. whats currently expected is something as bad as spring 1975, which could last for a while, currently a week at least. of course this could change but models are pretty strong on this.
the anomaly charts (noaa charts) have the upper air flow sourced from north greenland. i think thats the most northerly track ive ever seen them predict. so whats caught my eye, is the length and severity currently expected. i will be delighted if the current expectations are wrong! ![]() Quote:
Yeah but ones that produce snow in England are extremely rare. Snow in April in Northern Ireland and Scotland aren't so rare in even May.
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I've never knowingly heard that word to describe a soft snowy like hail before. Fascinating.
The one really cold May that I can clearly remember was not that long ago historically speaking - May 1996, which if I recall correctly from the time was noted as the coldest May across the country since 1941.
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Yeah but not on the 25th of April. Don't be pedantic!
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well the predictive models are firming up on a pretty lengthy very cold spell from next weekend onwards, possibly for 2 weeks, maybe longer.
it really is looking like the severest cold spell since 1975.... and there will be snow. (for some) |
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#370 |
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well the predictive models are firming up on a pretty lengthy very cold spell from next weekend onwards, possibly for 2 weeks, maybe longer.
it really is looking like the severest cold spell since 1975.... and there will be snow. (for some) John Hammond did actually mention the snowfall event of late April 1981 before his forecast yesterday. |
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the severity of the cold spell has modified a bit, but from saturday onwards its still bitterly cold / cold for the foreseeable. unsettled too. night frosts will be common.
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#372 |
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Yeah but not on the 25th of April. Don't be pedantic!
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#373 |
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the severity of the cold spell has modified a bit, but from saturday onwards its still bitterly cold / cold for the foreseeable. unsettled too. night frosts will be common.
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#374 |
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It snowed here in Norwich at 5am.
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#375 |
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It snowed here in Norwich at 5am.
Like I've said on here already, it feels like we have made no seasonal weather progress since the depths of autumn and winter 4 or 5 months ago, even gone backwards and June is just 5 weeks away now. I do find the forecasters keeping on about "Arctic blasts" and blue graphics covering the UK quite misleading. Daytime temperatures may be chilly for late April but are not hovering around the freezing point for most of the country. On Sunday I registered 11.6c for instance, following a night minimum of 2.4c and even now the night time is a quite ordinary 5c. Just looking at my old weather registers from the 1985-87 period and on this day in 1986 when I was still in school the temperature was 17.5c with thunder and heavy rain as I took the readings at 5pm. Next day I recorded 20c. This day in 1987 is a huge contrast to this year however - 25th April 1987 and I recorded a maximum of 26.5c, so that's hitting 80f, and sunny and dry. There were many similar temperatures that last week of April too. I recorded 7 consecutive days between the 22nd and 28th April with not a cloud in the sky at the time of my afternoon readings. Same location as I still am at today, on the left. |
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