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blueblade
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Just had a major catch up of over a hundred posts after a couple of weeks since dipping in and see there has been plenty of hot air, mostly from MushyManRob. Lots worth a reply, but for now.....




Nowhere is the answer Blueblade! Very disappointing as I was anticipating a rather enjoyable thunderstorm and night of bangs and flashes as I write. All that is happening is that some rain has just begun falling as it crosses east across England. Not a bang or a flash among it all, which surprises me after such a significantly hot and humid day across the south.

I recorded a temperature of 31.2c during Wednesday here. Tuesday was 30.8c. These are impressive temperatures this late in August and a week out from September. Certainly the 34c in parts of the South East on Wednesday is very impressive indeed. I cannot even recall when a temperature as high as that this late in summer was last recorded in England. Not any time recently I'm sure of that.

A very dry month to this point, just 11mm here. It's quite a notable drop off in rainfall this summer after the drenching June produced 3 times the usual expected. June at 141mm, July at 36mm and now August on 11mm. Grass which was very green, lush and fast growing in early July has now become parched, almost scorched yellow in places and almost stopped growing. A quite amazing turnaround from one extreme to the other.”

Re: BiB - actually that's a very good point, and one that wasn't hitting me in the eye until I read your post. I've scoured all the August records since 1900, and the only directly comparable day occurred on 27th August 1942 (of all years, who would have imagined that?!) when 34C (93F) was reached at Sprowston (Norfolk) on the 27th, and that was the last year when such a high temperature was reached so late - link to met office monthly summary for August 1942

Although it's recorded in Fahrenheit with no decimal places, and 34C as a discrete figure is actually 93.2F. That said, I may have been wrong about 34C at Cavendish. I heard that on one of the forecasts yesterday, but now the hotspot references are to Gravesend, with 33.9C, which is 93.02F - so still officially a match

Other noteworthy temperatures for Augusts since 1900 include:-

31 August 1906 - 34.9C at Nottingham

29 & 30 August 1930 - 33C at Cardington (Beds) followed by violent thunderstorms !

19 August 1932 - 36.1C at Camden Square (the actual highest temperature so late in the season)

Good point also about the dryness, and something we commented on in another thread recently (has grass stop !!!) It is an amazing contrast to the early Summer.
blueblade
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“spot on.... my first interest in weather was back in the early 70's and thunderstorms. i recorded all we had, and it became immediately obvious that we needed a draw from the southeast rather then the southwest. biscay just didnt cut it, but if we had a draw from the east of the Pyrenees (so south too) chances seem to increase tenfold.”

We just can't seem to sustain the South Easterlies sufficient to start the thunderstorms. Shame.
mushymanrob
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“We just can't seem to sustain the South Easterlies sufficient to start the thunderstorms. Shame.”

it is... deep seated southeasterlies off the med brings some very nice air, humid but sometimes infused with the scents of the french mountains and forests. once there was a strong pine scent..
Ben96
25-08-2016
All the juicy thunderstorms went to the West of me last night
roger_50
25-08-2016
The BBC interactive weather maps have been down for over 24 hours now. The daily forecasts at the top of the page are still working, but nothing else.

A major fault on the Met Office servers perhaps? I can't remember if the BBC manage the interactive map themselves or route it though to the Met's own system.
david16
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“The BBC interactive weather maps have been down for over 24 hours now. The daily forecasts at the top of the page are still working, but nothing else.

A major fault on the Met Office servers perhaps? I can't remember if the BBC manage the interactive map themselves or route it though to the Met's own system.”

The old magnetic weather maps back in emergency use?

Are they the Met Office's produced maps that are used on the BBC forecasts or the BBC's.

So may we be seeing brand new weather maps once the new providers of the BBC weather forecasts replaces the met office.
Rich Tea.
26-08-2016
I looked at the European visible satellite image this morning and was struck by just how little cloud there was across the entirety of mainland Europe from west to east. The continent, including us here in the UK seemed to be bathed in sunshine for everyone, except some storms in an area at the tip of North Western Spain.

Also tonight I have been struck by the noticeably sudden and very welcome drop in humidity.
roger_50
27-08-2016
Blimey, the BBC Weather maps on their main weather page have been down for about 4 days solid now.

Pretty major outage.
FusionFury
27-08-2016
The weather reports are often wrong, no biggie.

It is September next week so we need rain.
blueblade
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Blimey, the BBC Weather maps on their main weather page have been down for about 4 days solid now.

Pretty major outage.”

Which maps are you referring to?

I can still see everything I normally see, including the forecasted synoptic charts.
roger_50
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Which maps are you referring to?

I can still see everything I normally see, including the forecasted synoptic charts.”

It's the interactive weather map lower down the page, that lets you scroll left to right for the next 5 days, giving the graphical forecast.

It stopped working about 4 days back. Tried both Chrome and Firefox, same problem. Tried clearing cache, etc. Does nothing.

It's happened before and fixed itself, with nothing changing at my end.
d'@ve
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“It's the interactive weather map lower down the page, that lets you scroll left to right for the next 5 days, giving the graphical forecast.

It stopped working about 4 days back. Tried both Chrome and Firefox, same problem. Tried clearing cache, etc. Does nothing.

It's happened before and fixed itself, with nothing changing at my end.”

If you mean this one:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167

...it's not 'lower down the page', it's on a separate page and works just fine. I can't find anything there that doesn't work. Maybe they've done an update and you are using an old link?
roger_50
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“If you mean this one:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167

...it's not 'lower down the page', it's on a separate page and works just fine.”

Yes it is 'lower down the page' actually:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643743

And no, it doesn't work just fine for me and I'm using the correct link.
blueblade
27-08-2016
Significant thundery activity building up over Southern and Central England.
Rich Tea.
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Significant thundery activity building up over Southern and Central England.”

Thunderstorms beginning to widely break out all around my location right now. The lightning radar is suddenly massively springing to life across central England as I write. One decent torrential downpour and I could have more rain in half an hour than in all of August so far.

Midweek the BBC charts were forecasting 28c in southern England today but here the temp is currently just 17.8c.
d'@ve
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Yes it is 'lower down the page' actually:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643743

And no, it doesn't work just fine for me and I'm using the correct link.”

But you said "the BBC Weather maps on their main weather page" so I checked that one. The page you have now linked is the BBC local London weather page, not the main BBC weather page that you get by clicking on "Weather" in the top menu.

Anyway, the interactive map lower down the local weather pages also works well for me in Firefox on my PC, it looks like an issue with your browser or computer, if that's what you are using.
blueblade
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Thunderstorms beginning to widely break out all around my location right now. The lightning radar is suddenly massively springing to life across central England as I write. One decent torrential downpour and I could have more rain in half an hour than in all of August so far.

Midweek the BBC charts were forecasting 28c in southern England today but here the temp is currently just 17.8c.”

24C here and hazy sunshine. All the action is further to the North and West.

lightning radar
Robbie01
27-08-2016
It's a glorious day up here in the north east but tomorrow promises to be like yesterday - very wet. Followed by sunny weather on Monday. In other words, a typical bank holiday weekend...
roger_50
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“But you said "the BBC Weather maps on their main weather page" and the page you have now linked is the BBC local London weather page, not the main BBC weather page (that you get by clicking on "Weather" in the top menus).”

Jeez...on the weather page, from the weather page, related to the weather page. Who cares, stop being pedantic. You knew full well the map I was referring to.

What is it with this forum? The amount of silly pedantry...
blueblade
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“It's the interactive weather map lower down the page, that lets you scroll left to right for the next 5 days, giving the graphical forecast.

It stopped working about 4 days back. Tried both Chrome and Firefox, same problem. Tried clearing cache, etc. Does nothing.

It's happened before and fixed itself, with nothing changing at my end.”

No wonder I couldn't see it - I was looking at the Met Office website. Like a prat, I failed to notice you'd put BBC.

Agreed. Not functioning on mine either.
d'@ve
27-08-2016
One of the storms near Peterborough is currently showing a rainfall intensity of ~200 mm an hour on the Netweather 500m radar !

Near me, all the action has been to the north west, starting around Salisbury and heading NE. So another dry day here, still only 38 mm for the month. Max today so far is 24.7 but it's more cloudy now and 22.9.
roger_50
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“No wonder I couldn't see it - I was looking at the Met Office website. Like a prat, I failed to notice you'd put BBC.

Agreed - not functioning on mine either.”

Thank you!

It does happen every now and then, but usually within a few hours they fix it. It's just surprising to see it down for so long this time.

Perhaps they haven't tested it with the latest flash versions that people have on their computers? Mine are always up to date. I could try rolling back to an older flash version I guess.

It's not exactly important or anything so probably not worth it. I'll just wait and see.
d'@ve
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Jeez...on the weather page, from the weather page, related to the weather page. Who cares, stop being pedantic. You knew full well the map I was referring to.

What is it with this forum? The amount of silly pedantry...”

So I tried to help and get this. FFS, you said the main weather page, people can't read minds. The interactive map isn't down, it's your device browser or app. Goodbye.
roger_50
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“So I tried to help and get this. FFS, people can't read minds. Goodbye.”

You tried to help by being as pedantic as possible? What do you expect?

And the fact it also suddenly isn't working for blueblade above surely must tell you something?
d'@ve
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“You tried to help by being as pedantic as possible? What do you expect?”

It's not pedantry for goodness sake, I clicked on what you said, the main weather page. How would you expect anyone to know you were looking at the local London weather page until you posted the link? Seriously, I tried to help and I got nothing but grief. For the last time, the interactive BBC map you mentioned isn't down, it's either something more local to you and anyone else who has that issue, or it's intermittent (the hardest kind to resolve).
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