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Extremely warm tonight in Central London.
Tuesday was a scorcher. Unbelievable for mid September! ![]() Why are we having such hot weather in September? no scientific explanation!? |
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I think I'm moving to Manchester, atleast it's rainy most of the time !
We need massive rains/storms for everyone to cool off ! |
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It's so hot right now... I can't sleep...
![]() Why are we having such hot weather in September? no scientific explanation!? There are far more knowledgeable posters on here than I to explain why though. ![]() Just spent 10 minutes trying to catch a big spider - so I am even hotter now. ![]()
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8AM and it's very warm
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It's been investigated a few times and I've seen photos from a guy who tramped down through the marshes just to see it and take pictures! Standard Stevenson screen on grass just inside an enclosure protecting what looks like a radar or telecomms station. The fence is over 2 metres tall IIRC, and it's made of an open steel framework so air can get through alright, but I suspect that there will be a bit of shelter from the wind, more than most official stations anyway, which may partly explain the slightly high values sometimes seen from there. .
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012...ffice-station/ Including a nice pic of the station in the comments. |
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No breeze at all here. Worst summer ever imo. Hardly any genuinely nice weather. Just humid crap.
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Had quite a bit of rain here overnight with lots of thunder and lightning and some of the shops in Manchester have flooded. I couldn't get the tram to work this morning because the Metrolink wasn't running due to it.
It's warmer now but not unreasonably so, my phone says it's 23 degrees. There's not much of a breeze but it looks like there could be some later. |
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Midnight temperatures:
22.4 here (S Hants) 23.0 Manston (Kent) 23.4 Heathrow Airport 23.5 Shoreham & St. Catherines Point (IoW) 25.4 Langdon Bay (East Kent) ![]() On the other hand, it looks like from the radar accumulation estimates that parts of Stockport and South Manchester had nearly 3 inches of rain yesterday evening from the thunderstorms that rained off the Man City match, horrendous from all accounts and the photos. Nearly 2 inches seems likely to have fallen in a short time in the city centre. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsQXu0fWYAEzFQH.jpg:medium The Met Office extremes web page for the north west which shows 22.6mm in Rochdale as the highest rainfall for the 24 hours to 9pm yesterday evening (13th.) is clearly utterly bonkers. |
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indeed, theres now looking like a gradual slide away from this very warm/hot humid weather as the high to our east declines, but never goes, not yet anyway.
anomaly charts suggest a more westerly component to our mean upper flow by later next week but with high to our near southeast. temps should be down towards average but remaining just above? but fresher less humid air and it must be said that we are unlikely to get temps as high as todays max again this year. (thats unlikely but not impossible!) ![]() We might not see the temperature reached in Kent yesterday afternoon for a couple or more summers. It might be the 20's ( ) before we do again, if the next three summers are poor to average. I have found this summer 2016 to be a very peculiar one that has ended up defying an easy description. Coming in yesterday evening shortly before 6.30pm it was still blazing hot sunshine with the sun obviously lower in the sky than earlier in the summer, but still very sunny and bright, along with the warmth. What struck me vividly was that it went from that to almost dark with lights on within the hour. Such are the joys of a September heatwave. You can't defy the time of year and it makes you forget that you won't have a lovely long bright evening to go with it. |
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10am readings already into the low 20's across wide swathes of England, and up to 25 degrees over parts of the extreme East & South East.
We're in for a belter, folks ![]() ![]() |
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It's kind of ironic, as I personally find the still warmth very pleasant. But I would sooner have a cooler breeze if it meant asthmatics getting some relief. My sister suffers from asthma, and she's certainly had a particularly bad Summer this year.
The current synoptics - and I think you would probably agree with me on this - suggest that it's certainly not going to be below average, temperature wise, anytime soon. We will most likely vary between near or slightly above normal to warm or very warm (hot?) for the next couple of weeks. Whilst I don't think it will happen this year, I'd love to see a UK 32.3C (90F) September temperature. Not had one since 1949, climate change or no. We almost did it in 2005, with 32.1C on 31st August. Source: Prof Trevor Harley
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Your post from this time last week.
![]() We might not see the temperature reached in Kent yesterday afternoon for a couple or more summers. It might be the 20's ( ) before we do again, if the next three summers are poor to average. I have found this summer 2016 to be a very peculiar one that has ended up defying an easy description. Coming in yesterday evening shortly before 6.30pm it was still blazing hot sunshine with the sun obviously lower in the sky than earlier in the summer, but still very sunny and bright, along with the warmth. What struck me vividly was that it went from that to almost dark with lights on within the hour. Such are the joys of a September heatwave. You can't defy the time of year and it makes you forget that you won't have a lovely long bright evening to go with it. |
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Your post from this time last week.
![]() . however, the anomaly charts were correct in spotting the pattern change to a more atlantic dominated westerly 'by late next (this) week' , thats precisely what we are going to get! Quote:
I'm happy to say I wasn't just wrong, but in fact another 38 years wrong !!!
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indeed i was wrong about that, in as much that i didnt predict this mini heatwave that far out, and indeed it did catch quite a few of us out as we didnt foresee the formation of the biscay low that pumped up this hot plume.
however, the anomaly charts were correct in spotting the pattern change to a more atlantic dominated westerly 'by late next (this) week' , thats precisely what we are going to get! i see im in good company! lol, yep i dont mind being wrong when we get weather like this! ![]()
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Some more discussion on it here-
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012...ffice-station/ Including a nice pic of the station in the comments. So in a nutshell, the problem is that Gravesend (Broadness) is one of those non-standard sites that break the Met office's own siting guidelines... proximity of buildings and other structures or features, type and height of fencing etc. A bit like the recently closed Solent MRSC which was an official site that essentially had its Stevenson screen in a south facing low-walled front garden with a high white painted building fairly close behind it. Mind you, Heathrow isn't entirely above criticism either, in that case for obvious reasons! |
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..... but in saying what i did in the previous post.. this one was made 9 days ago....using the anomaly charts... Quote:
and guess what?.... theres little change over the next 2 weeks.... they predict high pressure over europe, the mean upper trough sat southwest of iceland. that puts the uk under a southsouthwest upper air flow. what does that mean?.... it means there is likely to be a lot of warm dry sunny weather especially in the southeast but effecting most of southern uk. wettest cloudiest in the northwest. but its not looking settled for longer then 3 days tops... so a couple or so of nice dry warm sunny days followed by a short lived unsettled wetter cooler spells before drier warmer sunnier ones return. ) |
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oh..... and the outlook is for more average seasonal weather with no hints of any more 'mini heatwaves' as the mean upper trough in the atlantic becomes the dominant feature keeping the uk in an unsettled, average rain/sun/showers fresher air, cooler days, normal for mid-late sept.
i will say, tomorrow will be the last widespread 'hot' day of the year, i think thats a pretty safe bet..... but im not bothered if im wrong! |
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oh..... and the outlook is for more average seasonal weather with no hints of any more 'mini heatwaves' as the mean upper trough in the atlantic becomes the dominant feature keeping the uk in an unsettled, average rain/sun/showers fresher air, cooler days, normal for mid-late sept.
i will say, tomorrow will be the last widespread 'hot' day of the year, i think thats a pretty safe bet..... but im not bothered if im wrong! Although in any normal year, you'd be spot on. |
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Marham 30.5 C at 1pm, Lakenheath "31" C (rounded) at 1pm.
That's another "date" record temperature gone. |
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Mind you, Heathrow isn't entirely above criticism either, in that case for obvious reasons!
The UK has experienced its September highest temperature in more than 65 years, with 32.2C (89.96F) being recorded by lunchtime. The Met Office said the high was recorded at Heathrow airport . Heathrow 65yrs ago wasn't quite the same as it is today. Not that the record set 65yrs ago was probably recorded at Heathrow. The Gravesend site certainly wasn't there in 1911. And didn't have warm water discharging from a power station just upstream either.. But another theory here- https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2014...-at-tide-turn/ |
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Its been a week since I had a good nights sleep. Very hot and humid and impossible to get any shut eye. I wake up intermittently in a puddle of sweat ... which isn't very attractive.
I am longing for cooler evening in particular. I can kinda cope during the day with fans pointing at me in different directions .... but I can't remove anymore clothing at night time !! |
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Its been a week since I had a good nights sleep. Very hot and humid and impossible to get any shut eye. I wake up intermittently in a puddle of sweat ... which isn't very attractive.
I am longing for cooler evening in particular. I can kinda cope during the day with fans pointing at me in different directions .... but I can't remove anymore clothing at night time !! |
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I'm quite fortunate in that I tend to cool down to comfortable levels quite quickly once lying still. Mind I've had to spend a few nights just lying on top of the quilt.
I did buy a tower fan a few months ago for the bedroom as every year I go through this. I did extensive reading of reviews and bought one that was described as quiet for the bedroom. Pah. Its soooo blummin noisy its a joke, but I kept it as my dog gets hot so we have it on in the lounge for him. |
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Never known a September so warm. Since the back end of August it's really warmed up. It's felt more like Summer this month than most of August here. Been in a t-shirt nearly every day (even sometimes outside at night as it's been so warm). Could be on for the Warmest September in History if this keeps up.
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I don't know why.
There are far more knowledgeable posters on here than I to explain why though. ![]() Just spent 10 minutes trying to catch a big spider - so I am even hotter now. ![]() ![]() ![]() September..... Hot Humid Weather + Warm Nights + Spiders + Wasps + Summer holidays over = WORST time of the year! |
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