I had to mow my lawn this weekend, I don't recall ever having to do it in the middle of winter before, which just goes to show how mild it's been this year.
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Suddenly as if by magic today we are back at December levels of extreme mildness all over again.
I've hit 14.5c today, and it was 11c at 3am this morning as the temperature did a rapid overnight rise from much lower values on Saturday evening itself.
I've recorded 65mm of rain so far this month in North Bucks at my location.
Grass is starting to grow again and there are a few dandelions poking through too. I last cut it in early December, a first. Never done it later than early November before, and most often it's early to mid October.
I've hit 14.5c today, and it was 11c at 3am this morning as the temperature did a rapid overnight rise from much lower values on Saturday evening itself.
I've recorded 65mm of rain so far this month in North Bucks at my location.
Grass is starting to grow again and there are a few dandelions poking through too. I last cut it in early December, a first. Never done it later than early November before, and most often it's early to mid October.
I may be shot down for this but i reckon that the rest of the winter is set in this obscenely mild conditions. There are absolutely no signs of it going cold
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Meanwhile over in the UK, it's incredibly mild - already 15C at Brize Norton (Oxon)
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“Meanwhile over in the UK, it's incredibly mild - already 15C at Brize Norton (Oxon)
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16 degrees at 8pm in Keswick - not bad !
Any forecasts beyond a week are essentially guesswork. Many of the most memorable snow events in the UK have occurred in February and March (even April on occasion).
I'm unlikely to see anything wintry down here, like most winters, but if you live north of Bristol/Greater London then I wouldn't discount anything. Yes, it seems we're in a rut but patterns can change. And sometimes people make false correlations with what is happening across the Atlantic. The eastern 2/3rds of the US and Canada were experiencing their mildest winter on record up until a couple weeks ago...and overall it is still well on track to be a winter of above avg temps when all is said and done. It hasn't been anything like the so called "polar vortex" winters they had the previous two years. So the notion that when the Yanks have cold, snowy winters we will experience mild, wet winters isn't really true.
Also, I'm sure you remember December of 2010. Well this is what happened on Boxing Day, 2010 in the US:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIr8Nl22eoE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decemb...rican_blizzard
Remarkably similar to what they've just experienced.
I'm unlikely to see anything wintry down here, like most winters, but if you live north of Bristol/Greater London then I wouldn't discount anything. Yes, it seems we're in a rut but patterns can change. And sometimes people make false correlations with what is happening across the Atlantic. The eastern 2/3rds of the US and Canada were experiencing their mildest winter on record up until a couple weeks ago...and overall it is still well on track to be a winter of above avg temps when all is said and done. It hasn't been anything like the so called "polar vortex" winters they had the previous two years. So the notion that when the Yanks have cold, snowy winters we will experience mild, wet winters isn't really true.
Also, I'm sure you remember December of 2010. Well this is what happened on Boxing Day, 2010 in the US:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIr8Nl22eoE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decemb...rican_blizzard
Remarkably similar to what they've just experienced.
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“16 degrees at 8pm in Keswick - not bad !”
“16 degrees at 8pm in Keswick - not bad !”
Impressive for that time in the evening on a dark January night for sure. Infact the BBC weather showed 16c temps from the top and bottom of the UK on Sunday, so it was truly nationwide.
Now we've got the big American snowstorm heading directly our way to the UK for Tuesday....as heavy RAIN! I know it was called Jonas over there but I wonder if it will change sex and become Gertrude when it reaches these shores?
It looks a potentially quite stormy one.
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“I may be shot down for this but i reckon that the rest of the winter is set in this obscenely mild conditions. There are absolutely no signs of it going cold”
“I may be shot down for this but i reckon that the rest of the winter is set in this obscenely mild conditions. There are absolutely no signs of it going cold”
I've shot you down over on the "Snow...Winter is finally here!" thread, with some links to the winter of 1947 which I won't repeat here again.
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Impressive for that time in the evening on a dark January night for sure. Infact the BBC weather showed 16c temps from the top and bottom of the UK on Sunday, so it was truly nationwide.
Now we've got the big American snowstorm heading directly our way to the UK for Tuesday....as heavy RAIN! I know it was called Jonas over there but I wonder if it will change sex and become Gertrude when it reaches these shores? It looks a potentially quite stormy one.”
“Impressive for that time in the evening on a dark January night for sure. Infact the BBC weather showed 16c temps from the top and bottom of the UK on Sunday, so it was truly nationwide.
Now we've got the big American snowstorm heading directly our way to the UK for Tuesday....as heavy RAIN! I know it was called Jonas over there but I wonder if it will change sex and become Gertrude when it reaches these shores?
It looks a potentially quite stormy one.”
That's a good point !!!
Well amusing as it might have proved, it does not currently appear that the Met Office have decided to re-christen our former snowy American visitor later today as Storm Gertrude despite significant rain and winds due to come in. I'd quite like to know what the technical remit is for naming these depressions and with who it's decided, such as by committee or by the chief meteorologist.
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Well amusing as it might have proved, it does not currently appear that the Met Office have decided to re-christen our former snowy American visitor later today as Storm Gertrude despite significant rain and winds due to come in. I'd quite like to know what the technical remit is for naming these depressions and with who it's decided, such as by committee or by the chief meteorologist.”
“Well amusing as it might have proved, it does not currently appear that the Met Office have decided to re-christen our former snowy American visitor later today as Storm Gertrude despite significant rain and winds due to come in. I'd quite like to know what the technical remit is for naming these depressions and with who it's decided, such as by committee or by the chief meteorologist.”
We're getting quite a battering in N.I at the moment.
Another two weeks of stormy weather on the way. That takes us to mid february. Jet stream shows no signs of going elsewhere and is going to bring storm after storm to the UK. So if you like the stormy weather then you are in for two weeks of sheer joy. If you like dry clear frosty days then you are going to be very very disappointed
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“Another two weeks of stormy weather on the way. That takes us to mid february. Jet stream shows no signs of going elsewhere and is going to bring storm after storm to the UK. So if you like the stormy weather then you are in for two weeks of sheer joy. If you like dry clear frosty days then you are going to be very very disappointed”
“Another two weeks of stormy weather on the way. That takes us to mid february. Jet stream shows no signs of going elsewhere and is going to bring storm after storm to the UK. So if you like the stormy weather then you are in for two weeks of sheer joy. If you like dry clear frosty days then you are going to be very very disappointed”
There is nothing nicer that a nice sunny crisp winter day, I love them. Sadly we've only had 2 this winter. One on Christmas eve and one last Wednesday, they are as rare as hens teeth this winter.
I have to say I am beginning to find this weather rather depressing, its been the same since last summer which was also a washout, the only difference being we didn't have any wind in the summer.
Originally Posted by 1manonthebog:
“There is nothing nicer that a nice sunny crisp winter day, I love them. Sadly we've only had 2 this winter. One on Christmas eve and one last Wednesday, they are as rare as hens teeth this winter.
I have to say I am beginning to find this weather rather depressing, its been the same since last summer which was also a washout, the only difference being we didn't have any wind in the summer.”
“There is nothing nicer that a nice sunny crisp winter day, I love them. Sadly we've only had 2 this winter. One on Christmas eve and one last Wednesday, they are as rare as hens teeth this winter.
I have to say I am beginning to find this weather rather depressing, its been the same since last summer which was also a washout, the only difference being we didn't have any wind in the summer.”
New month same weather. Jet stream firmly in control. So staying stormy through february.
The jet stream wants shooting for all whats its done this winter. Christmas wrecked for some due to flooding because of all the rain
They seem to be dithering somewhat on the state of play with the weather for the middle of next week at the moment. Never have I heard the jet stream mentioned so much on BBC forecasts. It never used to get a mention. The big question is to what extent the colder weather will force its way back across the UK. On Thursday they felt sure it was going to do so with snow showers and frost. Tonight less certain within just 24 hours.
Meanwhile Storm Gertrude, the first named storm of 2016 has gone and behind it left the strongest UK wind speed for 16 years at 105mph at Lerwick in Shetland.
Meanwhile Storm Gertrude, the first named storm of 2016 has gone and behind it left the strongest UK wind speed for 16 years at 105mph at Lerwick in Shetland.
A reflection of just how mild it has been, is the fact that the cherry trees on the grass verge to the front of my house, are partly in bloom.
Normally they bloom in mid March and go into leaf immediately afterwards.
Normally they bloom in mid March and go into leaf immediately afterwards.
So the latest storm to pound the UK is called Henry. Due to arrive over the weekend. I wonder how far will be into the alphabet before this stormy winter is over. We are in a changeable regime powered by the jet stream which shows no signs of clearing off to give the UK a break.
The US shows no signs of their temps stabilising so this stormy weather is with us til march and thats been said elsewhere by weather experts and not the newspapers
The US shows no signs of their temps stabilising so this stormy weather is with us til march and thats been said elsewhere by weather experts and not the newspapers
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“So the latest storm to pound the UK is called Henry. Due to arrive over the weekend. I wonder how far will be into the alphabet before this stormy winter is over. We are in a changeable regime powered by the jet stream which shows no signs of clearing off to give the UK a break.
The US shows no signs of their temps stabilising so this stormy weather is with us til march and thats been said elsewhere by weather experts and not the newspapers”
“So the latest storm to pound the UK is called Henry. Due to arrive over the weekend. I wonder how far will be into the alphabet before this stormy winter is over. We are in a changeable regime powered by the jet stream which shows no signs of clearing off to give the UK a break.
The US shows no signs of their temps stabilising so this stormy weather is with us til march and thats been said elsewhere by weather experts and not the newspapers”
Oh good. I got a storm named after me.
Originally Posted by HenryGarten:
“Oh good. I got a storm named after me.”
“Oh good. I got a storm named after me.”
It was Gertrude not Garten... oh wait. Maybe me and the other Dave will get our named storm next year.
Doesn't look like there will be much more rain in the far south by tomorrow, not much wind either. I was hoping for a 200% of average January rainfall here but may have to be content with 190%.
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“It was Gertrude not Garten... oh wait. Maybe me and the other Dave will get our named storm next year.
Doesn't look like there will be much more rain in the far south by tomorrow, not much wind either. I was hoping for a 200% of average January rainfall here but may have to be content with 190%.”
“It was Gertrude not Garten... oh wait. Maybe me and the other Dave will get our named storm next year.
Doesn't look like there will be much more rain in the far south by tomorrow, not much wind either. I was hoping for a 200% of average January rainfall here but may have to be content with 190%.”
I don't know how much rain you consider your precise average at your location Dave, but at mine it's 50mm a month, or 600mm per year, and for January I'm at 74mm this morning so about 50% more than average this month.
Meanwhile there are signs of a possible more prolonged cold spell in the UK in the second week of February.
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“It was Gertrude not Garten... oh wait. Maybe me and the other Dave will get our named storm next year.
Doesn't look like there will be much more rain in the far south by tomorrow, not much wind either. I was hoping for a 200% of average January rainfall here but may have to be content with 190%.”
“It was Gertrude not Garten... oh wait. Maybe me and the other Dave will get our named storm next year.
Doesn't look like there will be much more rain in the far south by tomorrow, not much wind either. I was hoping for a 200% of average January rainfall here but may have to be content with 190%.”
Ah but I am not talking about Gertrude. I am talking about Henry
February 15th looks a bit stormy according to jet stream forecasts
While there is temps all over the place in north america it is likely that we are going to have the storms associated with the reinvigorated jet stream for the next few weeks
While there is temps all over the place in north america it is likely that we are going to have the storms associated with the reinvigorated jet stream for the next few weeks
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“February 15th looks a bit stormy according to jet stream forecasts
While there is temps all over the place in north america it is likely that we are going to have the storms associated with the reinvigorated jet stream for the next few weeks”
“February 15th looks a bit stormy according to jet stream forecasts
While there is temps all over the place in north america it is likely that we are going to have the storms associated with the reinvigorated jet stream for the next few weeks”
I just hope the snow and really freezing weather stays away.
Originally Posted by HenryGarten:
“Ah but I am not talking about Gertrude. I am talking about Henry”
“Ah but I am not talking about Gertrude. I am talking about Henry”
I know (and knew).
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“February 15th looks a bit stormy according to jet stream forecasts”
“February 15th looks a bit stormy according to jet stream forecasts”
15+ days away? Complete guesswork!
Guess what perhaps. But more likely to be correct than not. No cold snap on the way so now its what spring is going to like. I cant see the upcoming month being dubbed freezing february.
You have to look at the north american forecasts to have an idea of whats in store for us. If the temps stabilise in america then that will have the knock on effect of slowing the jet stream which which allow high pressure to build and give us the prolonged dry spell that is badly needed.
Or there can be wild fluctuations throughout feb and that will power the jet stream up and give us the stormy weather that has been the prevailing feature this winter. Feb 15th looks stormy based on jet stream models
You have to look at the north american forecasts to have an idea of whats in store for us. If the temps stabilise in america then that will have the knock on effect of slowing the jet stream which which allow high pressure to build and give us the prolonged dry spell that is badly needed.
Or there can be wild fluctuations throughout feb and that will power the jet stream up and give us the stormy weather that has been the prevailing feature this winter. Feb 15th looks stormy based on jet stream models
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