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Weather Watching - Enthusiasts Thread
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d'@ve
31-01-2016
Not if the 06Z GFS operational run is correct it won't. 1025hPa in London and the nearest Low centre over Iceland. Of course that will change as well in the next run as it's complete guesswork trying to pin down the weather for any one day at 14+ days range.

I wouldn't disagree about the chances of any extended spell of severe cold though (more than a few days), simply because we are gradually running out of time for much to build up; arctic plunges affecting mostly the north are still possible though and that will also apply to March. But you never can be sure about these things.
leicslad46
31-01-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“Not if the 06Z GFS operational run is correct it won't. 1025hPa in London and the nearest Low centre over Iceland. Of course that will change as well in the next run as it's complete guesswork trying to pin down the weather for any one day at 14+ days range.

I wouldn't disagree about the chances of any extended spell of severe cold though (more than a few days), simply because we are gradually running out of time for much to build up; arctic plunges affecting mostly the north are still possible though and that will also apply to March. But you never can be sure about these things.”

netweather,tv has the jet stream forecasts. My post was based on their models. It looks similar though i concede it has changed a bit from when i posted the first comment. Also timeanddate.com for leicester shows that feb 15th will be a windy day perhaps a stormy one. Though again i concede things could change. Even the forecasters are having difficulty with the jet stream

There was a weather warning for leicestershire for tomorrow but that has been lifted. With it being only more northern regions being affected.
Rich Tea.
01-02-2016
As it's now February 1st, a glance back to a perishingly freezing February exactly thirty years ago in 1986. I remember it very well indeed, for the endless frosts and ice rather than any significant snow.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/m/h/Feb1986.pdf
blueblade
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“As it's now February 1st, a glance back to a perishingly freezing February exactly thirty years ago in 1986. I remember it very well indeed, for the endless frosts and ice rather than any significant snow.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/m/h/Feb1986.pdf”

Absolutely - February 1986 was the last calendar month with a mean CET below 0C until December 2010.
blueblade
01-02-2016
Today's temperature profile reflects the same North South divide we have seen with increasing frequency this Winter, with the North on the cold side around 4C, and the South very mild with temperatures around 14C, and a sharp dividing line across Northern England/Southern Scotland. Although it's a slightly less sharp dividing line today, than it has been on many other occasions.

current temperatures
leicslad46
01-02-2016
There is no prolonged cold snap coming this winter.

The set up is against that happening. I have said many times that the temperature fluctuations over in america is fuelling the jet stream and as a consequence we are having the stormy weather associated with a strong jet stream.
blueblade
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“There is no prolonged cold snap coming this winter.

The set up is against that happening. I have said many times that the temperature fluctuations over in america is fuelling the jet stream and as a consequence we are having the stormy weather associated with a strong jet stream.”

With two thirds of meterological Winter now behind us, it's now getting a tad late in the day for that to happen - especially given that the outlook is for for mild, wet and windy for the most part, with a shortish cold dry spell touted for mid month.
RobinOfLoxley
01-02-2016
You never know
RobinOfLoxley
01-02-2016
Breaking News: Very Long Range Forecast will be announced tomorrow

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a6846576.html
Rich Tea.
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Today's temperature profile reflects the same North South divide we have seen with increasing frequency this Winter, with the North on the cold side around 4C, and the South very mild with temperatures around 14C, and a sharp dividing line across Northern England/Southern Scotland. Although it's a slightly less sharp dividing line today, than it has been on many other occasions.

current temperatures”

Matched my very mild readings for the first day of the month of February, an overnight minimum in double figures at 10c and rising to 13c in the afternoon.

Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“There is no prolonged cold snap coming this winter.

The set up is against that happening. I have said many times that the temperature fluctuations over in america is fuelling the jet stream and as a consequence we are having the stormy weather associated with a strong jet stream.”

You cannot say that with any accuracy. I hope that comes back to frostbite you!

Originally Posted by blueblade:
“With two thirds of meterological Winter now behind us, it's now getting a tad late in the day for that to happen - especially given that the outlook is for for mild, wet and windy for the most part, with a shortish cold dry spell touted for mid month.”

Well last week I did hear a forecaster on the 9.55pm longer range BBC forecast suggest a likely more prolonged cold spell in the second week of February.
Robbie01
02-02-2016
I hope we do have a cold snap RT. The problem with the weather being so mild in February is it's either windy or rainy - and at the moment it's blowing a gale outside. I don't know if you've read my post further down on the forum but the next door neighbour's shed is doing its best to get into my garden!
blueblade
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Matched my very mild readings for the first day of the month of February, an overnight minimum in double figures at 10c and rising to 13c in the afternoon.


You cannot say that with any accuracy. I hope that comes back to frostbite you!


Well last week I did hear a forecaster on the 9.55pm longer range BBC forecast suggest a likely more prolonged cold spell in the second week of February.”

Well you never know, it might turn out like the February of 2005. Mild first half, very cold and snowy second half.

I noticed the warmth of the Sun on my face, for the first time in a few months when I opened the conservatory door to let the cat out a few minutes ago.
An Thropologist
02-02-2016
I am sure someone has posted this already but just in case. I was sent a link a couple of weeks ago to a smashing website whcich shows all the global weather patterns in real time. initially I watched the snow storm build over the Eastern US. Now I am watching Henry (or whatever he is called) etc.

https://www.windyty.com/?2016-02-02-12,52.467,-1.917,6

https://www.windyty.com/?clouds,52.467,-1.917,6

If you pull back using + and - until you get to the globe you can navigate around the planet to see weather patterns elsewhere.
Rich Tea.
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I am sure someone has posted this already but just in case. I was sent a link a couple of weeks ago to a smashing website whcich shows all the global weather patterns in real time. initially I watched the snow storm build over the Eastern US. Now I am watching Henry (or whatever he is called) etc.

https://www.windyty.com/?2016-02-02-12,52.467,-1.917,6

https://www.windyty.com/?clouds,52.467,-1.917,6

If you pull back using + and - until you get to the globe you can navigate around the planet to see weather patterns elsewhere.”

Fabulous links there. My location instantly appeared with all the relevant data as soon as I clicked.

Reminds me of this one - http://earth.nullschool.net/ that I recently posted and that I had been shown by a family member recently who knew I'd be interested.

The site above works better still if you google "earth nullschool" and go to the site that way. For some reason when I provide the link as above for ease of access it makes the globe smaller and to the left on the webpage when clicked.

A lovely day here in Newport Pagnell in Buckinghamshire. Storm Henry! What storm?
An Thropologist
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Fabulous links there. My location instantly appeared with all the relevant data as soon as I clicked.

Reminds me of this one - http://earth.nullschool.net/ that I recently posted and that I had been shown by a family member recently who knew I'd be interested.

The site above works better still if you google "earth nullschool" and go to the site that way. For some reason when I provide the link as above for ease of access it makes the globe smaller and to the left on the webpage when clicked.”

Thats the one I used until a fortnight ago, but I like this one even better. I suspect its the colours!
Rich Tea.
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Thats the one I used until a fortnight ago, but I like this one even better. I suspect its the colours! ”

Yes it looks very good indeed. I will have a detailed glance later.

Any other great websites for weather that anyone would like to share would be welcome. Some do have obscure names!
An Thropologist
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Yes it looks very good indeed. I will have a detailed glance later.

Any other great websites for weather that anyone would like to share would be welcome. Some do have obscure names!”

Don't forget to investigate the gust strength, cloud cover, temperature etc!

And the upper atmosphere.
Rich Tea.
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Don't forget to investigate the gust strength, cloud cover, temperature etc!”

Here's a great site that also links to many other detailed weather sites of interest.

www.weathercharts.org/

Plenty to delve into with this site. When I click the satellite image of Europe which comes from www.sat24.com I find it far superior to the poor satellite imagery on the Met Office's own site which used to be far better. I like nice sharp and clear satellite pictures. The Met Office's seem far too blurry and not detailed enough.
Andrue
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Any other great websites for weather that anyone would like to share would be welcome. Some do have obscure names!”

For a short term forecast you can't really beat something like:

http://en.sat24.com/en/gb

I always check that prior to setting out for a round of golf
Eadfrith
02-02-2016
These are the two I use http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ and http://en.sat24.com/en/gb

The Met Office website is terrible in my opinion.
Rich Tea.
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Andrue:
“For a short term forecast you can't really beat something like:

http://en.sat24.com/en/gb

I always check that prior to setting out for a round of golf ”

Originally Posted by Eadfrith:
“These are the two I use http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ and http://en.sat24.com/en/gb

The Met Office website is terrible in my opinion.”

Just beat you two to it with www.sat24.com

Thanks anyway.
_ben
02-02-2016
We had some of that polar stratospheric cloud over Edinburgh this morning looking south east around dawn. Lovely iridescent colours, like a petrol spill on water, couldn't take my eyes off it.

Edit: just noticed it's all over the news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-35470260
The first photo on that page is the view from Edinburgh.
blueblade
02-02-2016
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Some fantastic websites above. Cheers Guys.
leicslad46
02-02-2016
Jet stream forecasts suggest we are stuck in this weather for the remainder of the month. It is stuck in the same pattern in north america. They get the snow and the cold. We get the wet mild and stormy weather. We may get a stormy start to spring. After all its only 4 weeks to spring(meteorologically speaking)
An Thropologist
03-02-2016
Originally Posted by Eadfrith:
“These are the two I use http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ and http://en.sat24.com/en/gb

The Met Office website is terrible in my opinion.”

I use rain today but don't pay for the forward view. However I do find the free bit where they show you the detaile satillite images up to 15 minutes ago is enough to give me an idea of if I can walk somehwere without a brolly.

It doesn't help me to get home again mind. But I can put up with getting wet when I am heading home.

The one I posted above is more for interest and watching big weather events around the world.
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