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Brucies message was there any point to it?
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SliverOfDiamond
01-01-2016
Originally Posted by Roberta_Lewis:
“I'm not the greatest Bruce fan but the total lack of respect shown for him is guite amazing,I'm sure if some were to meet him face to face I hope they would have the good grace of at least being polite,the BBC showed some kindness in allowing a small tribute to him to be shown.Unfortuatley its the in thing to sit at a keyboard and be as rude and obnoxious as you can,I was brought up with manners and to respect my elders even if I didn't particularly like them it's all to easy nowadays to be rude without reason.”

Unfortunately, looking at and listening to the people I see around me when I'm out in public, I suspect that they are just as obnoxious in real life as they are on here. There seems to be an excess of 'Me culture', saying whatever they like in any manner they please to whomever they please, and never mind anyone else's feelings. Bruce may have annoyed them when he did the whole show, but a segment of a couple of minutes can surely be tolerated with good grace?

I sincerely hope that one day, when they're old, irrelevant to society, and helpless, that someone equally bitchy does it back to them.
Dervlathedog
01-01-2016
Originally Posted by SliverOfDiamond:
“Unfortunately, looking at and listening to the people I see around me when I'm out in public, I suspect that they are just as obnoxious in real life as they are on here. There seems to be an excess of 'Me culture', saying whatever they like in any manner they please to whomever they please, and never mind anyone else's feelings. Bruce may have annoyed them when he did the whole show, but a segment of a couple of minutes can surely be tolerated with good grace?

I sincerely hope that one day, when they're old, irrelevant to society, and helpless, that someone equally bitchy does it back to them.”

There's the crux. People who treat life just as 'what entertains ME' are going to have the same view whatever the circumstance. The government encourages it. There is no such thing as society. But for others looking at Bruce, or any other poor old sod, is imaginably looking at relatives, at friends, or even at ourselves, at the pity of life. Giving him time -- even on tv -- is a kindness we should allow ourselves. Because otherwise it's a bleak world
Muggsy
01-01-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“There's the crux. People who treat life just as 'what entertains ME' are going to have the same view whatever the circumstance. The government encourages it. There is no such thing as society. But for others looking at Bruce, or any other poor old sod, is imaginably looking at relatives, at friends, or even at ourselves, at the pity of life. Giving him time -- even on tv -- is a kindness we should allow ourselves. Because otherwise it's a bleak world”

Strangely enough, I doubt when people see Mary Berry (80) or 89-year-old David Attenborough, they think "poor old sod".
Richwood
01-01-2016
Not too much nostalgia, please and I've never a great fan of Bruce F., but he's has been around for a long time and headed up a lot of successful TV shows. Not many people can still be in the public eye to their mid 80s. At Christmas I can live with a short message from him - judging by his looks he will struggle to present any more shows.

Give the guy a break and show some charity.
Dervlathedog
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“Strangely enough, I doubt when people see Mary Berry (80) or 89-year-old David Attenborough, they think "poor old sod".”

Is either recuperating after a life-changing condition?

I really don't understand the point. Maybe I'm being dense -- as usual
CaroUK
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Is either recuperating after a life-changing condition?

I really don't understand the point. Maybe I'm being dense -- as usual ”

From what we were told, Brucies operation wasn't life threatening - it was a minor procedure but he wasn't recovering as fast as the medics had hoped, and at his age he would have been daft to put himself through what would no doubt have been a long days filming.

That said, we just ignored his little speech when it was on - talking amongst ourselves about what was coming up so it wasn't a big issue for us..... But we were very glad to see Claudia presenting rather than Bruce, we certainly enjoyed the show more without him.
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