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Old 28-02-2016, 09:18
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I don't think that's the answer. We know very little about Robert but have seen him turn nasty with Carla when she was trying to ignore him after the event.

Also Robert knows what Tracey is like and for some inexplicable reason still wants to be with her.

Carla's only option would be to tell Nick the truth. He's not that fussy - he married Leanne despite knowing she'd stopped off at their first wedding day to make sure there wanting doing with Peter.
Or to call Tracy's bluff and then tell Nick she's lying ... unless I've missed a vital point in this interminable storyline there's nothing to stop her suggestng to Nick that Tracy and Robert are trying to get their hands on money and the Bistro.
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Old 28-02-2016, 09:27
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Or to call Tracy's bluff and then tell Nick she's lying ... unless I've missed a vital point in this interminable storyline there's nothing to stop her suggestng to Nick that Tracy and Robert are trying to get their hands on money and the Bistro.
I'd thought that too.

Nick knows Tracey and how she schemes. He's see a side of Robert he hadn't seen before when he insisted in buying a share of the Bistro. He knows they're just about joined at the hip yet he's not suspicious, especially with Tracy wafting about in front of everyone saying what she's going to do with it when THEY own it.

Whatever happens, I'm fairly sure Nick won't sell in the end and Tracy will again be wailing that she never gets what she wants.
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Old 28-02-2016, 09:39
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I hope not Janet. I find it unbelievable that Tracey swans around insulting all and sundry with no repercussions. Would Liz really not have barred her by now? She had an affair with Liz's partner and tried to steal the pub from her not to mention her constant rudeness and snide comments.

Plus everyone knows she literally got away with murder and just recently is indirectly responsible for the death of two residents of the street. How anyone talks civilly to her is a mystery.
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Old 28-02-2016, 12:16
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I hope not Janet. I find it unbelievable that Tracey swans around insulting all and sundry with no repercussions. Would Liz really not have barred her by now? She had an affair with Liz's partner and tried to steal the pub from her not to mention her constant rudeness and snide comments.

Plus everyone knows she literally got away with murder and just recently is indirectly responsible for the death of two residents of the street. How anyone talks civilly to her is a mystery.
I did think it ridiculous that Zeedan is so desperate to carry on working there if Robert and Tracy buy the place. Would he really want to work for the woman who he knows started the fire that killed his father (and who will most definitely sack Leanne, who he is supposed to be very close to)?
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Old 28-02-2016, 15:59
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tracey also nearly killed her own daughter
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Old 28-02-2016, 16:47
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I hope not Janet. I find it unbelievable that Tracey swans around insulting all and sundry with no repercussions. Would Liz really not have barred her by now? She had an affair with Liz's partner and tried to steal the pub from her not to mention her constant rudeness and snide comments.

Plus everyone knows she literally got away with murder and just recently is indirectly responsible for the death of two residents of the street. How anyone talks civilly to her is a mystery.
Nobody knows she murdered Charlie, and she wasn't responsible for Kal not picking amy up and getting her out, dawdling on the ladder, and stopping to propose to Leanne, nor could it be predicted that some wally would cross the police barrier.
Tracey is guilty of wanting to bash Carla's brains in (and we've all been there! ) but the fire was accidental.
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Old 28-02-2016, 19:40
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Nobody knows she murdered Charlie, and she wasn't responsible for Kal not picking amy up and getting her out, dawdling on the ladder, and stopping to propose to Leanne, nor could it be predicted that some wally would cross the police barrier.
Tracey is guilty of wanting to bash Carla's brains in (and we've all been there! ) but the fire was accidental.
They do in fact : she was jailed for his murder, spent several years in prison and was only released on a bizarre legal technicality, certainly not because she cleared her name.
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:34
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They do in fact : she was jailed for his murder, spent several years in prison and was only released on a bizarre legal technicality, certainly not because she cleared her name.
Which leaves her in the same position as she was before the trial, with an assumption of innocence.
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:19
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Which leaves her in the same position as she was before the trial, with an assumption of innocence.
Not everyone, rightly or wrongly, respects the decision of a court when forming their personal opinion of someone's guilt.
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:35
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Which leaves her in the same position as she was before the trial, with an assumption of innocence.
Do you really believe your average Joe, let alone people who know Tracey would accept that?
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:22
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Do you really believe your average Joe, let alone people who know Tracey would accept that?
There is always some that assume guilt before and after a trial, but I think in Coronation street the decent ones would certainly give her the benefit of the doubt.
Her defence was that she was attacked and defended herself, and everyone knew that Charlie was violent, so that would make sense, I think?

Am I confused, or does David Platt know that she murdered Charlie? Was he looking through the window or something?
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:25
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They do in fact : she was jailed for his murder, spent several years in prison and was only released on a bizarre legal technicality, certainly not because she cleared her name.
It wasn't a bizarre technicality. It was a rush to justice by inept police. I've never heard such flimsy evidence As any schmuck lawyer would tell you the fact that she was standing over him with a bloodied cast iron skillet in her hand, and her beloved Charlie on the floor with his head smashed to a pulp proves it was assisted suicide. Whoever brought that case to court should be fired for wasting tax dollars.
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:28
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Which leaves her in the same position as she was before the trial, with an assumption of innocence.
No need for her relatives, friends or neighbours to extend to her the benefit of the doubt though. They all know she got off on a legal technicality and spent several years in prison for murder.
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:30
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It wasn't a bizarre technicality. It was a rush to justice by inept police. I've never heard such flimsy evidence As any schmuck lawyer would tell you the fact that she was standing over him with a bloodied cast iron skillet in her hand, and her beloved Charlie on the floor with his head smashed to a pulp proves it was assisted suicide. Whoever brought that case to court should be fired for wasting tax dollars.
Exactly....no wonder Tracy is always outraged and incensed by those highly judgemental neighbours
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:30
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There is always some that assume guilt before and after a trial, but I think in Coronation street the decent ones would certainly give her the benefit of the doubt.
Her defence was that she was attacked and defended herself, and everyone knew that Charlie was violent, so that would make sense, I think?

Am I confused, or does David Platt know that she murdered Charlie? Was he looking through the window or something?
Didn't she confess to David that she did kill Charlie?
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Old 28-02-2016, 23:40
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No need for her relatives, friends or neighbours to extend to her the benefit of the doubt though. They all know she got off on a legal technicality and spent several years in prison for murder.
I know that she told Deirdre, but I am pretty sure that Ken and Peter dont know for sure. (Though her personality must give them all a dirty great fat clue )
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Old 28-02-2016, 23:42
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Didn't she confess to David that she did kill Charlie?
Oh that rings a bell. If somebody knows, it leaves a way open for revelations or blackmail at some point.
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Old 29-02-2016, 00:49
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Nobody knows she murdered Charlie, and she wasn't responsible for Kal not picking amy up and getting her out, dawdling on the ladder, and stopping to propose to Leanne, nor could it be predicted that some wally would cross the police barrier.
Tracey is guilty of wanting to bash Carla's brains in (and we've all been there! ) but the fire was accidental.
I know she murdered Charlie, I watched it on my TV. The fire may have been "accidental" but it wouldn't have happened if she had broken in.
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Old 29-02-2016, 00:50
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I know that she told Deirdre, but I am pretty sure that Ken and Peter dont know for sure. (Though her personality must give them all a dirty great fat clue )
Yes, I think it's the case that Ken and Peter are of the opinion that she may in fact have been innocent.

I'm assuming that 99% of her neighbours and other acquaintances believe her to be a killer though, especially given the fact that she seems unhinged half the time.
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Old 29-02-2016, 00:51
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It wasn't a bizarre technicality. It was a rush to justice by inept police. I've never heard such flimsy evidence As any schmuck lawyer would tell you the fact that she was standing over him with a bloodied cast iron skillet in her hand, and her beloved Charlie on the floor with his head smashed to a pulp proves it was assisted suicide. Whoever brought that case to court should be fired for wasting tax dollars.
Exactly, she is as innocent as OJ!
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Old 29-02-2016, 00:59
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Nobody knows she murdered Charlie, and she wasn't responsible for Kal not picking amy up and getting her out, dawdling on the ladder, and stopping to propose to Leanne, nor could it be predicted that some wally would cross the police barrier.
Tracey is guilty of wanting to bash Carla's brains in (and we've all been there! ) but the fire was accidental.
Yes they do. The only way they would think she is innocent is if they have amnesia. She even stated in the street how she bashed him over the head twice. And her coming out of the house mere minutes after Charlie's murder is a clear indication.

Of course I bet the writers like to overlook that little fact.
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Old 29-02-2016, 08:48
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Yes they do. The only way they would think she is innocent is if they have amnesia. She even stated in the street how she bashed him over the head twice. And her coming out of the house mere minutes after Charlie's murder is a clear indication.

Of course I bet the writers like to overlook that little fact.
well the over look the fact that houses are not tardis' children dont regenerate into different children and staircases don't move of their own volition before a house fire that destroys the staircase
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Old 29-02-2016, 09:42
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Tracy was released soon after the tram crash due to the DNA scientist giving evidence at her trial being a fraud.

She was more of a nightmare then than she is now. She insulted Claire by taking the micky out of her dead husband Ashley's voice and Claire later hit her over the head, but unfortunately didn't kill her. That would have been a fitting end to her.

She seduced David and possibly Nick as well (can't remember if she did or not).

Blackmailed Steve and Becky into giving her custody of Amy - otherwise she'd report them for "buying" Max.

Insulted Norris and then asked him for a job in the Kabin, not realising that he was now how owner.

Most of the street got a tongue lashing from her and most of them believed she did kill Charlie.

All of that and more within three weeks of returning to the Street.
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Old 29-02-2016, 10:08
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Well it's all kicking off in the Gym again. A hive of activity, after we had it written off here. Wheatgrass smoothies and Twerk Yourself Fit for the Over 65's. Gary and the Nasirs have been dusted down and wheeled back out for a run. Must be time for another set of 4 actors to go on their break.
What's the betting Alya's friend, who is so outgoing and flirtatious is hiding a terrible secret of some sort. Wot's her game, eh?

Don't get me started again on Johnny Connor. It seems like the part was written to portray a kind of less violent Tony Soprano of the underwear manufacturing world. A wheeling, dealing, no nonsense-taking go-getter. The 'best in the business'. Instead we have Dopey from the 7 Dwarfs bringing a definition of ineffectual to new levels. We've never seen him doing other than sitting at a desk in the office doing absolutely nothing. Because he can't use new fangled technology like computers. Johnny was supposed to be giving advice to young Grasshopper 'ambitious, hungry, but green behind the ears' Aidan when he was discussing a contract on the phone. But it was a ridiculous response from Johnny...oh Carla will kill us if she finds you've been talking about contracts behind her back, oh please don't tell her, she'll be weally, weally cross. And we won't get any choccy bikkies with our tea!'.
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Old 29-02-2016, 10:23
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This Marta the polish slave girl hiding in the factory gets more ridiculous the more I think about it, she escapes from the Driscolls and hides out in the factory presumably seeing and hearing everything that goes on in there, so when Driscoll goes to the factory to see the Conners on several occasions she still thinks it's a good place to hide, she gets caught stealing and runs away, but then is spotted by Eva trying to get back into the factory, why would she go back there when she knows her captor regularly visits and she was caught stealing from there, it just doesn't make sense?
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