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Old 19-03-2016, 10:15
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I wondered what it would be like if they were were not taking it slowly.
Bonking on the bar in The Rovers?
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Old 19-03-2016, 10:19
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Michael is an ungrateful toad. Gail caught him trying to burgle her home. She forgave him. Took him in. Found him a job. Cared for him when it was discovered he had a bad heart. Then she married him. She only found out just before Michael about Andy's deceit. And she paid Gavin off. She didn't know he was going to die and he didn't want Michael anyway. Andy stole money from the bistro to pay Gavin off.

Yet he blames Gail, the woman who has done everything she can for him and forgives Andy who masterminded the whole thing from the very beginning! Then he got with Eileen who he was never a good match for. But then Eileen and Gail are sworn enemies, so it had to happen. Cretinous SL.
This storyline really annoys me! I mean, everyone forgives everyone else in Coronation Street (otherwise how could Tracy even still live there?) apart from Michael with Gail

As you state, Gail forgave him for burgling her house, and then with the NotGavin stuff, she wasn't the protagonist, she was merely trying to protect Michael, but she is ultimately the one who is punished. And to make matter worse, he then moves in with Andy!

The reality is the last sentence in your quote - it was done purely to put Gail and Eileen at further loggerheads.....
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Old 19-03-2016, 10:28
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Just going back to the topic of characters not appearing for chunks of time, as the most recent example, Carla and Nick - all that fuss about selling the Bistro, and then they vanish!

It would indeed be great to see named characters doing a bit of "background work", even if it was simply to walk across the back in a street scene and not interact with the main action, not be there as the "oh look, what a coincidence" character

One of the problems related to this is that we have the main characters, who clearly can't all always be available at the same time, and then we have the extras, usually mute, like the ones that appear in the background at the factory. The issue is this creates two layers of character that never really seem to intertwine. We never see the factory extras at the front talking to the main characters, undoubtedly as they would then have to speak and thus be paid, but why can't we see the main characters at the back talking to the extras? I'm sure it must occasionally happen, but very rarely. If there is a meeting at the factory, they divide off into two zones, the speakers at the front and the mutes at the back. Why can't they have them interspersed?

I guess a lot of this, with the extras at least, is due to Equity rules. If they speak more than a certain number of words, then they have to be Equity members (I think. Is this still true) which is supposed to protect actors but just creates a lack of realism!
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Old 19-03-2016, 10:35
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One from my partner who is an avid watcher; actually she has a few but she has chosen to offer this one:

24. If you are going on a cake run from the factory, where a fair number of staff work, you must collect only a very small box of cakes.
And never pay for them!
C&A closed in 2000, David would have been about ten then? so it is perfectly plausible that he would know and remember the shop. I used to drag my now 25 year old round C&A he knows it and remembers it.
I still miss C&A.
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:08
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This is one of the big problems I have with Corrie and the above is a prime example.

The dialogue doesn't match up with the action/character. Don't they have production meetings any more? Surely the writers would question things like this or even the actors themselves. Wouldn't Sue What'serface say "I've just said I want to take things slowly and now I'm running upstairs to bed with him"

It's the same when younger cast members come out with sayings that they are far too young to remember. I remember (I think it was David) mentioning 'Man at C&A'. No way.

Frequently unlikely characters make some quite funny and clever remarks which the character would have little understanding of such as politics (as the recent election stuff showed) . Unfortunately I can't remember any of these in jokes - not bright enough myself.-)

I thinks Anna needing to get the carrots thing was a writers' in joke too but as someone said it might have been inspired by comments on here.
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:12
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Frequently unlikely characters make some quite funny and clever remarks which the character would have little understanding of such as politics (as the recent election stuff showed) . Unfortunately I can't remember any of these in jokes - not bright enough myself.-)

I thinks Anna needing to get the carrots thing was a writers' in joke too but as someone said it might have been inspired by comments on here.
A prime example is Tim, who has converted from being illiterate (where did that story go?) to making comments which seem at odds to his previous characterisation.

Like you, I can't remember any offthe cuff - it's an age thing! - but another one will come along soon!
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:13
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25. When you are admitted to the private room in Weathy General you must have tubes shoved up your nose. Even if you only have a sore toe
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:33
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.... the scene that most irked me; Kevin playing around with the obviously empty brown sauce dispenser. He was trailing it all through his manky beard, at one time I thought he was going to upend it and suck on it like a dummy. People eat from what is dispensed from that thing. I was so mesmerised by the sight of this I had to replay to find out what he was actually talking about. That scene deserves another. .. ..
thought that a bit gross too

is everybody on holiday, no Kathy Staff, sorry cafe staff, bar anna, no bar staff only sean, no factory workers only the umpa lumpas, sorry mute extras, nobody in the pub

and what the hell was that outside the odriscols, some random golf sale or something? with and silly billy no mass blessing everybody who walks past, which vicars dont do,

the scenes were so contrived i expected phelan to waltz into Anna's flat just as she was about to tell all to Kevin

Jack has disappeared, maybe the o'driscolls have abducted him as well, with jenny in on it, now child slavery, that is a box they haven't ticked.

what other boxes have they not ticked, cannibalism? working on it, you never know with half the cast missing
incest?, no brookside tried that one and we know what happened to that programme
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:36
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The factory seems to have grown again. Yesterday Aidan said there have 25 workers. Yet they don't appear to have more than 15 machines and there is only Kirk and Jenny who are not machinists.
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:54
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Yes, he may remember the shop (but not be familiar enough with it to use it as a figure of speech 15 years later. That was my point. Maybe I should have chosen another example but that was the first one that came to mind.
David mentioning fine fare supermarkets from the 1970s?
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:01
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Some great "You Musts" in response back thanks ladies and gentlemen they are all very funny. [and true of course]
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:04
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So the building work on Webster's Autocentre garage extension isn't finished then or is he having something else done?
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:10
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Is the Marta SL over now? Will we ever find out exactly what happened with that Marta and that couple, will Eva get her job back at the factory now and will Sean ever see his new coat again?
Marta might be destined for the knicker factory they seem to have plenty of available vacancies most of the time, the packing department especially caters for just about anyone in need of a job.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:14
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thought that a bit gross too

is everybody on holiday, no Kathy Staff, sorry cafe staff, bar anna, no bar staff only sean, no factory workers only the umpa lumpas, sorry mute extras, nobody in the pub

and what the hell was that outside the odriscols, some random golf sale or something? with and silly billy no mass blessing everybody who walks past, which vicars dont do,

the scenes were so contrived i expected phelan to waltz into Anna's flat just as she was about to tell all to Kevin

Jack has disappeared, maybe the o'driscolls have abducted him as well, with jenny in on it, now child slavery, that is a box they haven't ticked.

what other boxes have they not ticked, cannibalism? working on it, you never know with half the cast missing
incest?, no brookside tried that one and we know what happened to that programme
They already did incest. The Baldwin family mother (sorry I forgot everyone's names) had an affair with her stepson who she had raised from a child.
Extremely unlikely and revolting!
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:35
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Frequently unlikely characters make some quite funny and clever remarks which the character would have little understanding of such as politics (as the recent election stuff showed) . Unfortunately I can't remember any of these in jokes - not bright enough myself.-)

I thinks Anna needing to get the carrots thing was a writers' in joke too but as someone said it might have been inspired by comments on here.
So do I but I'm not laughing.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:37
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Just going back to the topic of characters not appearing for chunks of time, as the most recent example, Carla and Nick - all that fuss about selling the Bistro, and then they vanish!

It would indeed be great to see named characters doing a bit of "background work", even if it was simply to walk across the back in a street scene and not interact with the main action, not be there as the "oh look, what a coincidence" character

One of the problems related to this is that we have the main characters, who clearly can't all always be available at the same time, and then we have the extras, usually mute, like the ones that appear in the background at the factory. The issue is this creates two layers of character that never really seem to intertwine. We never see the factory extras at the front talking to the main characters, undoubtedly as they would then have to speak and thus be paid, but why can't we see the main characters at the back talking to the extras? I'm sure it must occasionally happen, but very rarely. If there is a meeting at the factory, they divide off into two zones, the speakers at the front and the mutes at the back. Why can't they have them interspersed?

I guess a lot of this, with the extras at least, is due to Equity rules. If they speak more than a certain number of words, then they have to be Equity members (I think. Is this still true) which is supposed to protect actors but just creates a lack of realism!
A scene in the factory just this week demonstrated very clearly to me just how ridiculous it looks to the viewer to have the same regular characters in the foreground acting away while the extras just stand there in the background all silently mouthing titter tatter and smiling at each like idiots never joining in why not just bring some of them into the scenes proper it'd certainly make it look better.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:39
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25. When you are admitted to the private room in Weathy General you must have tubes shoved up your nose. Even if you only have a sore toe
26. Whatever your injury/illness you will make a rapid recovery and never be scarred for life or unable to go on survival/trekking expeditions with the Bear Grylls of the North West.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:47
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I'd hate to live on Coronation Street with everybody knowing my business, in fact I'd move out straight away and probably fly off and live in Los Angeles or maybe even Peru on a mountainside the world would be my oyster if I lived on Coronation Street.

Seeing as we're talking about Tony Warren the originator of the show who has just recently passed away I know he started the show and that he was the writer for the show but how long did that last does anyone know.

Basically how long was he actually involved in the show?, as a writer or anything I would just like to know.

I watched the ITV drama 'The Road To Coronation Street' again the other day and thought it was really good, it's still available I think on the ITV catch-up and for anyone who hasn't ever seen it if you love Corrie you'll love that.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:50
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27. You must have relatives that you have never ever mentioned to your neighbours who will one day just spring up from nowhere and plonk themselves on you along with the rest of their clan.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:52
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Was just thinking this morning Liz must have now gone a full two months without a single bonk something's got to give very soon surely?.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:58
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Marta might be destined for the knicker factory they seem to have plenty of available vacancies most of the time, the packing department especially caters for just about anyone in need of a job.
Marta. Did we ever get a chance to build some sort of sympathy with her predicament? No. All we saw was her looking like a rabbit caught in the headlights and saying no police.

That's why it was difficult to care about this SL. There should have been some scenes of Marta and the O'Driscolls where we saw them abusing her. If that had happened, then we would have felt more involved in the SL. We would have cared about Marta and felt some satisfaction when she was rescued and the baddies got their comeuppance.

As it was it was all about Eva in a hat going on about Marta, Marta, Marta, with Billy tagging along and Aiden doing the right thing at the last moment. And if Marta was really worried about her family in Poland, why did she ever bother escaping in the first place? What was the point? Eva should have somehow come across her at the O'Driscolls looking scared.
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Old 19-03-2016, 12:59
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Was just thinking this morning Liz must have now gone a full two months without a single bonk something's got to give very soon surely?.
Yes her knicker elastic
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Old 19-03-2016, 13:00
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Was just thinking this morning Liz must have now gone a full two months without a single bonk something's got to give very soon surely?.
Crikey her thong elastic must be fit to burst! And as for the bar flap, the hinges must be going rusty!
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Old 19-03-2016, 13:01
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Yes her knicker elastic
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Old 19-03-2016, 13:25
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And did you notice the song that was playing on the Rovers jukebox during that scene between Gail and Michael?
No. Sorry. I was probably semi-comatose and drooling by that stage!
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