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Coronation Street - Suspension of Reality (Part 10)
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LaineyT
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“The women are no better though, mostly. In real life, very few women I know have affairs, but it is an everyday occurrence in Coronation street. More than half the women in the street have "strayed"
Just from memory...
Tracey
Leanne
Anna
Rita
Gail
Audrey
Nessa
Sarah-Louise
Carla
Kylie
Fiz
Alya
Sally
Eileen
Mary.
Thank goodness Emily (Lady Edith) left before they make her have it away with Billy! ”


You have missed off Saint Hayley If my memory serves me right on one of her trips out of the street to Africa/India...didnt she have a thing with a worker out there????
callumfreeman
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“The women are no better though, mostly. In real life, very few women I know have affairs, but it is an everyday occurrence in Coronation street. More than half the women in the street have "strayed"
Just from memory...
Tracey
Leanne
Anna
Rita
Gail
Audrey
Nessa
Sarah-Louise
Carla
Kylie
Fiz
Alya
Sally
Eileen
Mary.
Thank goodness Emily (Lady Edith) left before they make her have it away with Billy! ”

Yes, but these are mostly just down to flings or one night stands, and even when caught nothing much is made of it. They were either "confused" or "regret" it.

For example Leanne had an affair with Nick behind Peter's back. But she was treated more sympathetically and Peter was portrayed as the villain. Peter is a bigamist and cheat, so he should automatically forgive her and shouldn't feel upset or betrayed he got cheated on.

Even with Carla's one-night stand with Robert, it is obvious he is going to be portrayed as the villain here.
callumfreeman
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by LaineyT:
“You have missed off Saint Hayley If my memory serves me right on one of her trips out of the street to Africa/India...didnt she have a thing with a worker out there????”

Yes she did, and planned to leave Roy. But the bloke she had a thing for was a womaniser.
honeythewitch
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I wouldn't really classify some of those as affairs - more like one-night stands. If they aren't in a couple, then having a relationship is perfectly OK. And Anna slept with Phelan for her family not because she wanted to. What affairs did Fiz have, or Eileen, or Sarah or Audrey? I'm trying to remember any time when they deliberately cheated when they were already in a relationship, but I can't.

Thinking about it, there does seem to be a pattern of women being taken advantage of by men, though not always of course.”

Audrey had an affair with Bill Webster while he was married to Maureen. Michael is still married to Gail, and hadnt had time to properly make a decision about the relationship when Eileen swooped.
I think Sarah slept with Jason while she was with Todd? and Fiz had an affair with Tyrone while he was with Kirsty.
Come to think of it, both Eileen and Fiz could be considered to have taken advantage of Ty and Michael, because they were both low and desperate.
LaineyT
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Yes she did, and planned to leave Roy. But the bloke she had a thing for was a womaniser.”

Weird how I can remember something from years ago but dont ask me what I had for my tea last night
honeythewitch
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by LaineyT:
“You have missed off Saint Hayley If my memory serves me right on one of her trips out of the street to Africa/India...didnt she have a thing with a worker out there????”

Yes, and I think she tried to cop off with her dancing teacher too.
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Yes, but these are mostly just down to flings or one night stands, and even when caught nothing much is made of it. They were either "confused" or "regret" it.

For example Leanne had an affair with Nick behind Peter's back. But she was treated more sympathetically and Peter was portrayed as the villain. Peter is a bigamist and cheat, so he should automatically forgive her and shouldn't feel upset or betrayed he got cheated on.

Even with Carla's one-night stand with Robert, it is obvious he is going to be portrayed as the villain here.”

Yes it was puzzling how Peter's wife had an affair, yet it was all his fault.
With Robert I think it was six of one and half a dozen of the other, but no doubt it will be all Robert's fault.
pete137
02-01-2016
A packed casino in the middle of the day, on a bank holiday.

Ok !
kiviraat
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“A packed casino in the middle of the day, on a bank holiday.

Ok !”

And what are the odds he'd end up in the same place as Carla "Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she (or should it be 'he') walks into mine..." Why the hell would Robert go to a casino? Why not go home for a kip, or a nice walk by t'canal, or even downing voddies in the flying horse if he's that wound up (cos of course they'd probably never notice he was under the influence back at the Bistro )
Billy244
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“But private taxis arent allowed to stop for someone shouting in the street for one, are they?
If Carla was yelling, and it stopped, mustn't it have been black?”

It's Emily's taxi in question we're on about HoneyWitch and it was a StreetCar I've just checked.
Zebstriker
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Audrey had an affair with Bill Webster while he was married to Maureen. Michael is still married to Gail, and hadnt had time to properly make a decision about the relationship when Eileen swooped.
I think Sarah slept with Jason while she was with Todd? and Fiz had an affair with Tyrone while he was with Kirsty.
Come to think of it, both Eileen and Fiz could be considered to have taken advantage of Ty and Michael, because they were both low and desperate.”

Fiz also started seeing John Stape when she was still going out with Kirk
jsmith99
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“The new business in the arches, which isn't in partnership with Tyrone.”

Right, thanks. I hadn't realised that business existed, at the time he gave Sophie the shares.

Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“..............Thinking about it, there does seem to be a pattern of women being taken advantage of by men, though not always of course.”

Take advantage of? Are we still in the era of wicked squires and innocent housemaids?

Any fault is as much on the women's side as on the men's.

And the list omitted Curly and Maureen, after a shared bottle of wine. Back in the days when a bottle of wine was rare and sophisticated, and invariably led to bed.
dobbybear
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by fayemian:
“Yeah what's that laugh all about? Are we supposed to find it amusing and/or endearing? As it happens the laugh itself doesn't especially bother me but I'm bemused why it's suddenly a thing since the actress came back from maternity leave? I don't recall her laughing like that before. They may as well just put her sign on her head saying 'hey, I'm a ditzy blonde!'”

I've seen her on a couple of quiz shows and she actually laughs like that in real life but only worse!
honeythewitch
02-01-2016
Originally Posted by Zebstriker:
“Fiz also started seeing John Stape when she was still going out with Kirk”

So there is hope for Ty yet?
Originally Posted by jsmith99:
“Right, thanks. I hadn't realised that business existed, at the time he gave Sophie the shares.



Take advantage of? Are we still in the era of wicked squires and innocent housemaids?

Any fault is as much on the women's side as on the men's.

And the list omitted Curly and Maureen, after a shared bottle of wine. Back in the days when a bottle of wine was rare and sophisticated, and invariably led to bed.”

Was Maureen married to Reg at the time? If so, it is almost excusable.

My list was only of the current characters, but I was wondering who has had the most affairs if we include everyone from the start?
pete137
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“The new business in the arches, which isn't in partnership with Tyrone.”

Im confused. So Kevin will own a new garage where he and Sophie own 100% of the profits, right opposite his existing garage where he has to split the profits with Tyrone. What incentive is there for Kevin to fix any cars at the shared garage when he can just send the customer to his new place and pocket it all. Its ludicrous.
JohnDoe14
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“A packed casino in the middle of the day, on a bank holiday.

Ok !”

It also had the same casino employee from the last few times that Carla went to the casino who remembers Carla's name. Would someone in that line of work really reference someone by name? In a casino I imagine that they are very vigilant about stopping people from cheating so an employee calling someone by now would surely raise a few alarms if either her or one of her friends won a lot of money. It's probably very hard to fix a roulette game but still it's seem to be a bit weird to me.
russ75
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“The women are no better though, mostly. In real life, very few women I know have affairs, but it is an everyday occurrence in Coronation street. More than half the women in the street have "strayed"
Just from memory...
Tracey
Leanne
Anna
Rita
Gail
Audrey
Nessa
Sarah-Louise
Carla
Kylie
Fiz
Alya
Sally
Eileen
Mary.
Thank goodness Emily (Lady Edith) left before they make her have it away with Billy! ”

It's a soap of course people have affairs, if nothing happend to these characters people would say they were boring and they should be axed
Janet43
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“Im confused. So Kevin will own a new garage where he and Sophie own 100% of the profits, right opposite his existing garage where he has to split the profits with Tyrone. What incentive is there for Kevin to fix any cars at the shared garage when he can just send the customer to his new place and pocket it all. Its ludicrous.”

Think I remember that it's going to be more for car servicing and valeting than a fixing cars that have gone wrong.

They had Maddy cleaning cars for them and there wasn't enough space on their forecourt for those and the ones needing a mechanic. Kevin was supposed to have landed a big contract for servicing a fleet of cars and they had them parked all over the street.

I could be wrong, but I'm certain it's going to be something separate from what the "qualified" mechanics Tyrone and Luke do.
grauniad
03-01-2016
It's ironic that the main employer in the street is a knicker factory, when it appears there is no call for them 😉
roverboy1965
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“Im confused. So Kevin will own a new garage where he and Sophie own 100% of the profits, right opposite his existing garage where he has to split the profits with Tyrone. What incentive is there for Kevin to fix any cars at the shared garage when he can just send the customer to his new place and pocket it all. Its ludicrous.”

I got the impression at the time that the garage was just expanding into the new premises, not a whole new separate business. I'd be mighty miffed if I was Tyrone.

Our Kev's turning into a proper entrepreneur. So he now owns and runs 3 garages, the two in coronation street (one part owned admittedly), and the one he bought last year ( off a retiring mate ? ) off the street that is now never mentioned (why didn't Sophie screech just bog off and run that one full time !!!!! ).
jsmith99
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“......................


Was Maureen married to Reg at the time? If so, it is almost excusable.

My list was only of the current characters, but I was wondering who has had the most affairs if we include everyone from the start?”

I can't remember the episodes in that much detail, I'm afraid.

If you include one night stands, then I think Maria would be the winner by a wide margin. Unless you count the delicious Yana, of course. ("I was on holiday for a week, and didn't have sex with anybody till the third night. If you don't count the laundrette").

Originally Posted by JohnDoe14:
“.................. It's probably very hard to fix a roulette game but still it's seem to be a bit weird to me.”

I should think it's impossible to fix, though if you could measure the speed of the wheel, the initial speed of the ball, and the point on the wheel at which the ball is "fired", then you could compute the small region of the wheel in which the ball would finish. This has actually been done (and I've read a book about it) which is why casinos don't allow computers to be taken in.

However, it would be unnecessary : a crooked employee could simply treat an accomplice's bet as though it were a winning one, and pay the accomplice.
davads
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by russ75:
“It's a soap of course people have affairs, if nothing happend to these characters people would say they were boring and they should be axed”

And yet I don't think they said that in the 1970s...

The bed hopping in Corrie these days is such a yawn, and I'm not a prude by any means. As I've said on another thread, pretty much all the affairs are so "meh", for me there's been precious few that have had any shock or dramatic impact, other than Deirdre and Mike (I know it's a cliché to single that one out but it really was powerful) and more recently Kevin and Natalie in the '90s, which was a real face-off of the "scarlet woman" up against the cosy respectable stability which Sally represented. Or, outside adultery, probably Gail and Martin as that was so out of left field (although no doubt if they did an age gap affair these days they'd play it for laughs).

Otherwise it just seems like the producers have a big spreadsheet to mark off who's not bonked who Enough already.
stevepjk
03-01-2016
talking to one of the tour guides on the corry tour about it and he said they didn't get many school groups in because of the inappropriateness of the story lines, even though it's quite educational seeing how a tv programme is made and it's on at a time when children can watch it.
loddellbosh
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by JohnDoe14:
“Of course just before that we got the obligatory Eva laugh that is being shoehorned into every script now because some fans like it.”

I hate that laugh. It's so fake. I've seen the actress do it on other shows where she's guest appearing as herself. TPTB at Corrie must have seen her do it too and thought it was a good idea to have Eva doing it. It only used to happen now and then, but lately it's at least once per episode.
Janet43
03-01-2016
But it's not fake - it's her natural laugh and that's why you've seen her do it on other shows as herself. Just as Jimmy Carr's strange laugh is natural.
shelts
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by loddellbosh:
“I hate that laugh. It's so fake. I've seen the actress do it on other shows where she's guest appearing as herself. TPTB at Corrie must have seen her do it too and thought it was a good idea to have Eva doing it. It only used to happen now and then, but lately it's at least once per episode. ”

I love Eva's laugh, it is very natural and usually tries to cover it up because she has found something inapproprate amusing or ridiculous (like the script) Eva is a real old fashioned Corrie character like Irma Ogden/Barlow, she is my favourite and deserves a proper long term man and a couple of kids...you know,like normal people, like Judy and Gary Mallett had,before they killed Judy off even that was a better ending for a chacter than they seem to allow now...no disaster, no murder, something that does actually happen.
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