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Coronation Street - Suspension of Reality (Part 10)
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Sandra Bee
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by JohnDoe14:
“Good attempt Corrie! Trying to get us to believe that Sophie is a great businesswoman by having her remember what drawers she left some papers in. Surely Kevin could have just looked around a bit but no, he had to ask Sophie so that she could demonstrate just how great of a businesswoman she is. And what happened to Kevin's new business? It was built and we haven't seen it since. And we don't even know what the purpose of it is.”


Glad you mentioned this. It made me laugh out loud and even funnier, it happened twice

Sophie doesn't need a clip board with her razor sharp memory.
Sandra Bee
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by MyBeautifulHair:
“I couldn't believe Sally's lack of table manners, on several occasions speaking with her mouth full of food, once even stuffing in yet another forkful before complaining to Rob about the noise from the back. Sally would never do that, especially while on her endless quest to impress. Unless of course, it was done deliberately to remind us that despite all her airs and graces, she's common as muck. Like we need reminding.”

I didn't really understand why Sally was complaining about the noise from the kitchen. I couldn't really hear Tracy banging the dishes about and like a lot of other people have mentioned, why no dishwasher in the kitchen.
Sandra Bee
09-04-2016
I thought the scenes with Sally in the Bistro were awful

The Bistro was empty but Robert was waiting on, even though you could see a waitress wandering about and how on earth could she not notice Tim standing there in an empty room but worst of all, Tim being able to hear every word Sally was saying about him.

Ridiculous.
davejc64
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sandra Bee:
“I thought the scenes with Sally in the Bistro were awful

The Bistro was empty but Robert was waiting on, even though you could see a waitress wandering about and how on earth could she not notice Tim standing there in an empty room but worst of all, Tim being able to hear every word Sally was saying about him.

Ridiculous.”

If I had been Tim I would have walked over there and made a point of introducing myself as 'Tim Metcalfe Window cleaner' maybe even offering to clean their windows at a reduced price to expose Sally's lie's there and then.
Petrixle
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jane_Lee3:
“Liz could easily be Amy's mother. Amy is what? 12. And Liz is I think supposed to be 55-ish? And could pass for 48 on a good day - she could have had Amy at 38-42.

Not all women in their mid to late 50s could pass for the mother of a 12 year old, but Liz could IMO.”

Liz's twin sons Steve and Andy turned 40 last year, so I doubt somehow Liz gave birth to twins at 15 without this being mentioned in her many years on the show. It's possible she was 18 which would put her at around 58/59 now. She could have had Amy at 47 I suppose. but the point is this fella doesn't know how old Liz is, and could think she is closer to 50. I have to say that despite not thinking much to her style in the show I have watched Corrie in HD and Beverley Callard looks bloody good up close for a woman nearing 60. So I agree with you that she could just about pass for Amy's mum- and if this guy is an older parent himself he's more likely assume that I guess.
Petrixle
09-04-2016
Actually I just checked my own facts and Steve turned 40 in 2014. So if Liz isn't 60 by now she must be damn close to it! Then again I don't really remember Corrie celebrating any significant birthdays for older characters. Has Rita turned 80? Did Sally have a 50th birthday celebration? (btw not saying 50 is old but I would put Sally in the category of older characters on the show, with the likes of Carla and Steve being the sort of mid-point and anyone younger than them being a young character ).
Brummy Girl
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sandra Bee:
“I didn't really understand why Sally was complaining about the noise from the kitchen. I couldn't really hear Tracy banging the dishes about and like a lot of other people have mentioned, why no dishwasher in the kitchen.”

You couldn't hear the two occasions when there was a big clang of pots being dropped just before Sally made comments on it?
Sandra Bee
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Brummy Girl:
“You couldn't hear the two occasions when there was a big clang of pots being dropped just before Sally made comments on it? ”


No, I must have been drawn into the scintillating dialogue that was going on. Either that or I nodded off.
Janet43
09-04-2016
According to Corriepedia, Liz was born 3rd November 1957 so that makes her currently 58.
davejc64
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“According to Corriepedia, Liz was born 3rd November 1957 so that makes her currently 58.”

But don't Corriepedia get things wrong?
Janet43
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by davejc64:
“But don't Corriepedia get things wrong? ”

Yes, they do, but there's no other evidence, just speculation. And it's very difficult to judge the age of someone who has 40-year-old sons, dresses like a teenage tart, has long bleached blond hair, is botoxed and has the sexual appetite of a rabbit.
Petrixle
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“According to Corriepedia, Liz was born 3rd November 1957 so that makes her currently 58.”

It seems strange they have made Liz younger than Bev Callard by several months. This would also mean she would have had the twins at 16 , as Steve and Andy will be 42 in June. Is my maths right? and has this ever been mentioned? This in itself seems like a bit of an SOR to me.
Janet43
09-04-2016
Again, according to Corriepedia she had the twins in June 1974 and married Jim the same year so she'd have been 17 then.
cedricthedog
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by mark e a:
“2. As someone who does bookkeeping for a garage, the admin person (i.e. Sophie) would be doing paperwork, entering invoices, taking payments, answering the phone. Not just standing around outside ticking things on a clipboard.”

At one point last night she also closed the bonnet of a car. Not sure why though? What was she supposed to have been doing with it?

"Engine present? Tick"

cedricthedog
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Brummy Girl:
“Robert also mentioned that they were short staffed.”

Yet there always seem to be heaps of random extras playing waiting staff in the Bistro. There were two last night who I don't recall seeing before.

And if they are that busy, how come there's never any sign of any cooking activity in the kitchen? There's seldom anyone in there other than Robert and whoever he's currently arguing with!
Janet43
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“At one point last night she also closed the bonnet of a car. Not sure why though? What was she supposed to have been doing with it?

"Engine present? Tick"

”

Could be "No tools left on top of the engine? Tick"
cedricthedog
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“Don't get me started on clipboards it was like Clipboard Central tonight on that show.”

Yup. There was Sophie of course, then we had a scene where Kate was stood in the middle of the factory with one ticking something off

"Sewing machine (not being used)? Check
Badly stitched knickers? Check
Gobby machinists doing nothing? Check?"

and simultaneously (which must be at risk of tearing a hole into the time/space continuum), the bald extra in the factory, who's job is unclear, was also manning a clipboard at the back

"Bloke wandering round pretending to do something? Check"
Corrie_Fan2
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“The Rovers was also practically empty on a Friday night! Back in the day, it was full of smoke and folk sitting and standing at the bar. There was always plenty of chat going on. That's how it should have been on a Friday night. The Rovers was silent. Corrie just don't bother with any semblance of reality. Nowhere is buzzing. They only bother with the minimum amount of people in each scene. Do we ever see anyone walking down the street who isn't a main cast member?”

This really annoys me. I can understand it not being packed every day of the week like it might have been in the 1960s or 1970s but you'd still think it'd be reasonably busy on a Friday or Saturday night. Surely characters from Corrie still meet-up in the Rovers if they don't fancy going into Manchester/Salford? Or is there a far better pub a few streets away we aren't aware of that does good food and is nicer than the rovers (The Flying Horse still open?)

Also, why do characters only ever go out on the town if they're gay and need a boyfriend/girlfriend because there's no-one else on the street suitable for them. Surely characters like Beth Tinker, Michelle McDonald, David and Sarah Platt and co would go clubbing in the town - which could provided some great story-lines and also give them a chance to meet partners who are not from the streets existing cohort. Similarly why is every lesbian who ever sets foot on the street paired with Sophie? I think I've moaned about the insular nature of the street on this forum before.

Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Yes, they do, but there's no other evidence, just speculation. And it's very difficult to judge the age of someone who has 40-year-old sons, dresses like a teenage tart, has long bleached blond hair, is botoxed and has the sexual appetite of a rabbit.”

Corriepedia's the closest we're ever going to get to anything concrete outside of anything mentioned in the show. I wish they'd find references for birthdates etc though, especially for characters born off-screen.
Corrie_Fan2
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“Yup. There was Sophie of course, then we had a scene where Kate was stood in the middle of the factory with one ticking something off

"Sewing machine (not being used)? Check
Badly stitched knickers? Check
Gobby machinists doing nothing? Check?"

and simultaneously (which must be at risk of tearing a hole into the time/space continuum), the bald extra in the factory, who's job is unclear, was also manning a clipboard at the back

"Bloke wandering round pretending to do something? Check"”

Kate's looked fairly realistic (by Corrie standards, so still a bit SOR), she was taping up boxes if I remember correctly - could be a different scene - so presumably ticking of the number of knickers in each box before it gets sent off to the client.
Petrixle
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Again, according to Corriepedia she had the twins in June 1974 and married Jim the same year so she'd have been 17 then.”


Nope, if Liz was born in November 1957 she would have turned 16 in November 1973, so would have still been 16 at the time of the twins birth. The awkward thing is unless the twins came early Liz would have been 15 at the time of conception!
Janet43
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Petrixle:
“Nope, if Liz was born in November 1957 she would have turned 16 in November 1973, so would have still been 16 at the time of the twins birth. The awkward thing is unless the twins came early Liz would have been 15 at the time of conception! ”

so make me a liar for 5 months.
Tippy Toes
09-04-2016
I think the point is the total lack of consistency and attention to detail which is important to long term viewers. Each character has a bio, many remember the MacDonalds being introduced as a happy normal family.
chestfield
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“At one point last night she also closed the bonnet of a car. Not sure why though? What was she supposed to have been doing with it?

"Engine present? Tick"

”

"No engine in this Beetle. Tick"
"Oh good, there's a spare in the boot. Tick"

I'll get my coat. Tick.
scone
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Are we still doing Billy244's big list?

65. If you are Anna Windass and stressed, you must pour a glass of wine and chug it down immediately to calm the nerves.


Page 162 onwards. ”

Thanks, going to have a read
ewoodie
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Yes, they do, but there's no other evidence, just speculation. And it's very difficult to judge the age of someone who has 40-year-old sons, dresses like a teenage tart, has long bleached blond hair, is botoxed and has the sexual appetite of a rabbit.”



Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“At one point last night she also closed the bonnet of a car. Not sure why though? What was she supposed to have been doing with it?

"Engine present? Tick"

”

Why isn't she ever in the office doing some paperwork? Is she on some sort of lesbian alert and has to be on the forecourt just in case Kate appears?

Originally Posted by Petrixle:
“Nope, if Liz was born in November 1957 she would have turned 16 in November 1973, so would have still been 16 at the time of the twins birth. The awkward thing is unless the twins came early Liz would have been 15 at the time of conception! ”

Just like Michelle.

This last week of Corrie has been a gift to us avid SORers!
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