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Coronation Street - Suspension of Reality (Part 10)
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Belligerence
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Tippy Toes:
“Thank goodness for this forum. I swear I watched Corrie last night but honestly had forgotten most of it. I mostly watch recorded episodes through a rose wine haze which could account for it. I do remember Robert's amazing recovery from hitting the bottle and the ghastly closeups of Nick as Robert & Leanne were flirting. Tiresome & contrived, as per usual.

Stupid carnation/rose wars. Has Mother Conner been mentioned before? It's certainly the first anniversary/birthday thing we have ever seen mourned by so many when the dead character has never appeared apart from beloved Sadie from the hairdressers.

It did make me laugh that Caz was holding a dog leash with obviously nothing on the end of it. I suppose they are reminding us that Ozzie exists before the sad demise.

I see Gemma is becoming the new comedic character. Another personality transplant taking place before our very eyes.

... and finally, as has been said often, please tone down the tan shades, makeup and designer clothes. The actresses MUST have clauses in their contracts to say they mustn't appear as ordinary folk from a working class Street in the North.

Let's get real Producers, pretty please.”

First episode written none other than Jonathan Harvey.

Every character turns into a 'comedian'.
ewoodie
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brummy Girl:
“Gemma can be irritating at the best of times but in yesterday's two episodes she seemed to turn the irritation level up to 11. She was so OTT. The way she spoke to Dev in the shop, the way she was with Rita. I know we supposed to find it 'hilarious' but I did not laugh once. I just cringed at the signposted hilarity.”


With the right script, direction, SL etc., Gemma could have been quite good. She could do without comments like she's 'had to rely on her looks'. That was clearly supposed to be amusing because we are meant to think she isn't. Corrie have done that before with another character - it might have been Beth.
James_Langan
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jane_Lee3:
“Good points!



Not to mention the Botox and implants which might be commonplace for actresses but not the characters they play.

Tracey seems to had a mask on last time she appeared.”

Exactly the point I made. And Eva's the worst. When she leaves the house to go to work or to the corner shop, (or just to rant at Aiden!) she dresses like she is going to a prom or a wedding or something. I very rarely dress like that, unless it's a special occasion, and neither does anyone I know.




Again, someone else pointing out the daft way the (younger) women are often dolled up to the nines!

And Gemma yes, becoming a sweet liekable character, after being a hoodlum! Why does this always happen?!

Also hate the silly not-flirting between Leanne and Robert. If Nick is THAT jealous that he can't stand Leanne having a bit of banter with a workmate, then he should NOT be in a relationship with her.

And yeah the stupid carnation/rose thing; pathetic. Why is Kate so utterly vile to Caz now? She was in love with her wasn't she???





Garreh must have liked Izzeh at some time; he porked her didn't he? I mean they have a kid together! [/quote]

I think two tone Tina was the surrogate for izzies little Jake. So it was just a porking she got from Gary. The porking was strictly for her pain and still is to this day.
Brummy Girl
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Eva's cross between these two!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/195500..._savage300.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...dfb0854cff.jpg”

yes Eva does sometimes dress like a drag queen as drag queens have to be dressed up to the nines all the time to emphasise their 'femininity'.

When was the last time we saw Eva dressed down? It might have been the time she went to the gym and even then her outfit was perfectly co-ordinated and her boobs had to be emphasised by a tight vest top
STUFFY
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brummy Girl:
“ yes Eva does sometimes dress like a drag queen as drag queens have to be dressed up to the nines all the time to emphasise their 'femininity'.

When was the last time we saw Eva dressed down? It might have been the time she went to the gym and even then her outfit was perfectly coordinated and her boobs had to be emphasised by a tight vest top”

I'll vote for that. Bring it on!
ewoodie
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“Exactly the point I made. And Eva's the worst. When she leaves the house to go to work or to the corner shop, (or just to rant at Aiden!) she dresses like she is going to a prom or a wedding or something. I very rarely dress like that, unless it's a special occasion, and neither does anyone I know.




Again, someone else pointing out the daft way the (younger) women are often dolled up to the nines!

And Gemma yes, becoming a sweet liekable character, after being a hoodlum! Why does this always happen?!

Also hate the silly not-flirting between Leanne and Robert. If Nick is THAT jealous that he can't stand Leanne having a bit of banter with a workmate, then he should NOT be in a relationship with her.

And yeah the stupid carnation/rose thing; pathetic. Why is Kate so utterly vile to Caz now? She was in love with her wasn't she???





Garreh must have liked Izzeh at some time; he porked her didn't he? I mean they have a kid together! ”


Gemma - Just like others before started as a 'bad' character and are now reformed. Leanne Battersby was a 'bad' character. Although Leanne has had the odd relapse! The first thing she did on the street was steal from a parked van. Craig was initially shown as a big ignorant lump of a kid. Now he's lovely.

Did Nick have any time to reflect on his relationship with Carla after she left? She is his wife! Or was it just simply a case of a swift moving onto yearning for Leanne? Again! How many times did we have to see scenes with Leanne and Robert laughing and Nick frowning? And let's not forget Steph the chief frowner and poor Andy the plank. Does he have any facial expressions or input to scenes whatsoever?

Kate doesn't seem to have any other emotion or thoughts towards Caz other than vile, aggressive and hostile. Was what she did so wrong? Was it enough to earn that reaction? Was it hell. Yet another example of a one dimensional character with one and only one response. No one is ever prepared to be reasonable.
STUFFY
13-08-2016
[quote=ewoodie;83571092. No one is ever prepared to be reasonable.[/QUOTE]

Well I am for one, provided you just leave my beloved Maria alone!
ewoodie
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by STUFFY:
“Well I am for one, provided you just leave my beloved Maria alone!”

Maria has been neglected by Corrie.
tuppencehapenny
13-08-2016
I know it's been mentioned, but I've also got to comment on the bizarre timing. What the heck is going on? Leanne is locking up the bistro, wearing those awful clumpy high heels - another aspect of the over-dressing of the female characters. [Note to writers - women who work all day/evening on their feet wear the most comfortable shoes they can find.] The speed dating, which provoked all the Leanne/Robert banter and much scowling from Nick, is over, with lots of drink bought, apparently. But it's broad daylight, 8 o'clock at the latest.

Surely it's easier to get this right than wrong?
Meldrewman
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I know it's been mentioned, but I've also got to comment on the bizarre timing. What the heck is going on? Leanne is locking up the bistro, wearing those awful clumpy high heels - another aspect of the over-dressing of the female characters. [Note to writers - women who work all day/evening on their feet wear the most comfortable shoes they can find.] The speed dating, which provoked all the Leanne/Robert banter and much scowling from Nick, is over, with lots of drink bought, apparently. But it's broad daylight, 8 o'clock at the latest.

Surely it's easier to get this right than wrong?”

It's so annoying - the producers don't seem to want to bother with night shooting.
MrsWomble
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“Just watching last night's first offering ...

Where does Eva get the cash for the constant costume changes?
Eva: That laugh is not funny and well overused.
The "hilarious" olive mistake regurgitated.
Luke's flowers mistake telegraphed - in case we aren't bright enough to spot it coming.
Random selection of people at Izzy's party.
Nick's constant gurning.
Gemma's constant screeching and ridiculous Good Samaritan story - is it normal to actively tout an award?

Shoot me now!!!”

All of this but especially BIB

And unfortunately I only have one bullet. Mind you if you stand reaaal close
cedricthedog
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Gemma - Just like others before started as a 'bad' character and are now reformed. Leanne Battersby was a 'bad' character. Although Leanne has had the odd relapse! The first thing she did on the street was steal from a parked van. Craig was initially shown as a big ignorant lump of a kid. Now he's lovely.”

I remember Leanne and Toyah stealing. They realised it was Les's birthday and they'd not got him a present, so they pinched a power drill out of a builder's van.... We've also had Tyrone appearing initially as a rogue, then reforming. Fizz too I think. And more recently down and out Becky, down and out Maddy, and gangster's Moll Kylie

Rolly Eye Smiley, Rolly Eye Smiley, wherefore art thou Rolly Eye Smiley?

Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“
Kate doesn't seem to have any other emotion or thoughts towards Caz other than vile, aggressive and hostile. Was what she did so wrong? Was it enough to earn that reaction? Was it hell. Yet another example of a one dimensional character with one and only one response. No one is ever prepared to be reasonable.”

Kate is like a woman possessed with her vitriol towards Caz. Of course, it's all to make St Sophie look good before they inevitably get them together as a couple (something we predicted in this very thread the moment it was revealed that Kate was a lesbian). Eventually this relationship will go horribly wrong of course, and then Kate will leave, and Sophie will wait to stalk the next handy lesbian moving onto The Street

Rolly Eye Smiley, Rolly Eye Smiley, wherefore art thou Rolly Eye Smiley?
cedricthedog
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“It's so annoying - the producers don't seem to want to bother with night shooting. ”

Why don't they do what other dramas do? Basically shoot in daylight and then process the images to make it look like night?

Having said that, I have noticed that sometimes when they do this, they forget about the very obvious shadows we can still see!
jsmith99
13-08-2016
I've no experience of speed dating, but I understand that it involves people moving from table to table. Would a restaurant really allow an event like that to take place, unless they have a separate function room?

Apart from the use of tables, at which four people could be eating, I'd be surprised if any of the participants bought more than a single drink all night.
Meldrewman
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by MrsWomble:
“All of this but especially BIB

And unfortunately I only have one bullet. Mind you if you stand reaaal close ”

Save yourself!
Meldrewman
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by jsmith99:
“I've no experience of speed dating, but I understand that it involves people moving from table to table. Would a restaurant really allow an event like that to take place, unless they have a separate function room?

Apart from the use of tables, at which four people could be eating, I'd be surprised if any of the participants bought more than a single drink all night.”

I have this vision of sitting at my table, eating my meal, and a random female starts asking me questions before moving on 5 minutes later!
Trudi Monk
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“I remember Leanne and Toyah stealing. They realised it was Les's birthday and they'd not got him a present, so they pinched a power drill out of a builder's van.... We've also had Tyrone appearing initially as a rogue, then reforming. Fizz too I think. And more recently down and out Becky, down and out Maddy, and gangster's Moll Kylie”

And I remember Andy and Steve Macdonald stealing a JCB and breaking Alf Roberts shop window with it not long after they arrived on the cobbles.
No wonder he is lucky to have Michelle
sutie
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Trudi Monk:
“And I remember Andy and Steve Macdonald stealing a JCB and breaking Alf Roberts shop window with it not long after they arrived on the cobbles.
No wonder he is lucky to have Michelle”




He is indeed. She's the best thing ever to happen to him.
Belligerence
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“Just watching last night's first offering ...

Where does Eva get the cash for the constant costume changes?
Eva: That laugh is not funny and well overused.
The "hilarious" olive mistake regurgitated.
Luke's flowers mistake telegraphed - in case we aren't bright enough to spot it coming.
Random selection of people at Izzy's party.
Nick's constant gurning.
Gemma's constant screeching and ridiculous Good Samaritan story - is it normal to actively tout an award?

Shoot me now!!!”

Would love for Eva to go all 'natural'. I get it's in her character to look artificial, but it would be a nice to see her before the make up artist does their 'magic'.

I guess no make up = you are sleep deprived, insane.

As for Gemma, she's just a younger version of Janice/Cilla/Bet, right?
stevepjk
13-08-2016
gemma acts like an over excited 12YO on a school trip

characters have no make up when they have mental breakdowns like Sarah or who are actually dead, like Kylie
Tippy Toes
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Would love for Eva to go all 'natural'. I get it's in her character to look artificial, but it would be a nice to see her before the make up artist does their 'magic'.

I guess no make up = you are sleep deprived, insane.

As for Gemma, she's just a younger version of Janice/Cilla/Bet, right?”

Time will tell if Gemma can become even half way to being another Bet. She has potential, let's hope the character is given some depth and doesn't just become a screeching banshee. No doubt she will soon have to find a home on the Street and perhaps even find some family members (like they did with frowny bistro waitress and charismatic Luke). If they intend to pair her off, I hope they don't play spin the bottle and put her with anyone just because he's the right age but lacks the spark of charisma almost all the current the couples lack, but yes, she's in the 'gobby female' pigeonhole, along with Beth.
honeythewitch
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“Just watching last night's first offering ...

Where does Eva get the cash for the constant costume changes?
Eva: That laugh is not funny and well overused.
The "hilarious" olive mistake regurgitated.
Luke's flowers mistake telegraphed - in case we aren't bright enough to spot it coming.
Random selection of people at Izzy's party.
Nick's constant gurning.
Gemma's constant screeching and ridiculous Good Samaritan story - is it normal to actively tout an award?
!”

I am afraid it is, yes. I have seen several people go after a specific award, and demand that everyone nominates them!
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“I forgot to mention them!

The scene/s where Izzy was whizzing around trying to get Gary to go to bed were both hideous and hilarious.



This. ^^^

There was a point at which Eva was a good character and she had real promise. Now she's just as you say; a very silly, shallow character who Corrie keep around for the blonde hair and tits factor. That's why she also has a job in the Rovers. But let's not forget Eva was putting her make-up on in last night's ep. Except that she had layers and layers of it already plastered on.

We saw Bet with make-up off and on. We saw the sad sides of Bet's life. Bet was a character with some depth. Eva is Corrie's glamour girl and nothing more. Michelle is another one they love to promote as gorgeous. It's laughable as they are not even the best looking women in Corrie. Maria and Kate are both very attractive. Not that being attractive should have anything to do with being in Corrie.”

They could do with plainer women. Especially when the men look like Quasimodo in comparison.

Originally Posted by Jane_Lee3:
“

And Gemma yes, becoming a sweet liekable character, after being a hoodlum! Why does this always happen?!

”

I am not sure I can get past Gemma beating David up. No doubt David will though, and they will be married by next year.


Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“It's so annoying - the producers don't seem to want to bother with night shooting. ”

I bet the new studios close at half past five.
honeythewitch
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by stevepjk:
“gemma acts like an over excited 12YO on a school trip

characters have no make up when they have mental breakdowns like Sarah or who are actually dead, like Kylie”

Like with Kirk and Beth at times, they have gone too far with Gemma and one minute it seems as if she has learning difficulties, the next she is a whizz at running the kebab shop single-handed and inventing and cooking new recipes.
Belligerence
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Tippy Toes:
“Time will tell if Gemma can become even half way to being another Bet. She has potential, let's hope the character is given some depth and doesn't just become a screeching banshee. No doubt she will soon have to find a home on the Street and perhaps even find some family members (like they did with frowny bistro waitress and charismatic Luke). If they intend to pair her off, I hope they don't play spin the bottle and put her with anyone just because he's the right age but lacks the spark of charisma almost all the current the couples lack, but yes, she's in the 'gobby female' pigeonhole, along with Beth.”

Whoops, I met Beth!

Sean is the next Bet, with the smatters of 'cock/luv', and leopard print wardrobe.
Brummy Girl
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by stevepjk:
“characters have no make up when they have mental breakdowns like Sarah or who are actually dead, like Kylie”

Or being bullied like Bethany, whereas beforehand she used to be caked in the stuff
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